Sorry, I simply can’t resist this, but this Geoff Luther picture of a LHD B-series was probably taken in PG Horridge’s yard. In the background you can see the rear end of KRH 153P (the NGC)! Robert 
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Carryfast:
Going by the pic that older NGC looks in better condition than its newer counterpart to me.
Carryfast, you have an unerring awareness of the little loopholes and avenues that will help to support your eccentric theories. In this case you appear to have stumbled upon a particularly convincing example that may enhance your theory that the NGC could have been sustained long into the period during which the B-series was developed.
As an ERF NGC fan with some considerable sympathy with your point of view, though strictly on grounds of driver enjoyment and not upon operator requirements, I offer you the following info.
Here’s the caption for the above photo, which appears in my book, Lorries of Arabia: ERF NGC (which I do hope you’ve ordered!) I say the following about Phil Horridge’s ERF NGC:
This ERF NGC epitomises the ‘seventies British long-hauler. A blogger on Trucknet called ‘Dave’ gave a fascinating account of this NGC 420. It ran in the red and white livery of PG Horridge on TIR tilt work. Dave also drove an impressive looking LHD ERF B-series (BMB 447W) for Phil Horridge but he claimed that it ‘wasn’t a patch’ on the old 7MW (KRH 153P) he drove before progressing to the B-series. Dave described how he could drop a whole gear (no splitter on a nine-speed Fuller) in the NGC at 60 mph to get out of trouble, something he couldn’t do in the B-series. He also mentioned that the NGC would ‘pass anything going up Cherbourg hill.’ Clearly, he rated the formidable performance of the old ‘big banger’ ■■■■■■■ 335 coupled to a nine-speed Fuller in the NGC ‘European’ higher than its successor.
ERF-Continental:
@Robert:nice the PGH NGC! Was it already in your listing and total score?
A-J
Yes A-J, both them appear on my earliest lists of NGCs and B-series units. Robert
I have learned that the ‘Dave’ I quoted three posts up from this one died a couple of years ago. Geoff Luther very kindly posted a picture of him for me on the Poole thread. I feel it appropriate to reproduce it here. He’s standing by the LHD B-series ERF that he drove after the NGC. Robert
robert1952:
NGC pictures, like No.11 buses, seem to come occasionally but when they do come they come in threes!I’ve just received a bigger version of Newmercman’s pic, which Truckerash found elsewhere on FB. For those of you are keeping these pics in folders, here it is: Robert
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Hiya thats a car mr Peter had scrounged, he always used an Aston Martin EPF10…he did have Bentleys later in life always EPF10
i think Tim Foden might have ERF1 now
I was thumbing through the pages of my very battered copy of Cola Cowboys earlier this evening. Franklin Wood must have written it in 1980 or '81 because it was published in '82. The frustrating thing is that he may well have encountered any one of the Vijore ERF NGCs at that time, or any of the other NGC Middle-Easters for that matter; but if he did, he didn’t comment on them. I suppose if he’d been a trucker-journalist he might have done, but he was a journalist. There are so few references to NGCs out there! Just an idle thought… Robert
Until this thread the only recollection I had of the Europeans was the TRUCK Euro Test and I had seen the Turks and Beresford MWs on the road.
Now we have this and the other threads dedicated to them, at first I thought Robert was a bit of a nutcase, the passion he had for a white elephant of a lorry, a wannabe so to speak (the lorry, not the man) but the amount of fascinating material that’s been uncovered is astonishing.
As I’ve said before, thanks to these threads, I know have a lot of respect for ERF, when previously I thought they were horrid things built cheaply to satisfy stuck in the dark ages hauliers.
I’m even ordering the book!
newmercman:
Until this thread the only recollection I had of the Europeans was the TRUCK Euro Test and I had seen the Turks and Beresford MWs on the road.Now we have this and the other threads dedicated to them, at first I thought Robert was a bit of a nutcase, the passion he had for a white elephant of a lorry, a wannabe so to speak (the lorry, not the man) but the amount of fascinating material that’s been uncovered is astonishing.
As I’ve said before, thanks to these threads, I know have a lot of respect for ERF, when previously I thought they were horrid things built cheaply to satisfy stuck in the dark ages hauliers.
I’m even ordering the book!
A noble testament, Newmercman! 
Robert
There was a flurry of interest in the NGC on TruckNet back in summer 2005, it appears! Here’s the link:
robert1952:
Right, I’m back from Algeria!Followers of this thread will be aware that Tony Jones of Sandbach was one of the trio of hauliers who formed the consortium VIJORE, which operated a Middle-East service in the '70s. Truckerash sent me this picture of one of Tony Jones’s Fodens. Notice that it has left-hand drive!! Robert
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i used to follow these Jones lorries through Arclid lights to the M6(jct17)some mornings going to ERF. i used to think he’ll not be home for tea…i never said from Jones yard at Smallwood to Carmens at Scholar Green is a matter of 3 miles maybe less Jones to Chatman and Ball Somerford maybe 2 miles and Beresfords of Tunstall maybe 8 miles from Jones and only 4 from Carman,s these was all doing M/E in the late 60s
John
Here’s another nice B-series parked up in the yard in Longhope. But you’ll no doubt notice that there’s a PROPER lorry just behind it! Robert
Can I appeal to any of you who have '70s or '80s Commercial Motors in your lofts or under your beds (ie those of you who haven’t got wives!!), to have a look at the small photo ads in the back of some of them. Over the years I have found the small ads (like the one I’ve posted below) to provide a wealth of information about different engine and gearbox options.
If we can find ANY old ERF NGCs for sale in the '70s/'80s the adverts will give us clues not only about drive-lines but about liveries and owners as well. Thank you! Robert
Example:
robert1952:
Can I appeal to any of you who have '70s or '80s Commercial Motors in your lofts or under your beds (ie those of you who haven’t got wives!!), to have a look at the small photo ads in the back of some of them. Over the years I have found the small ads (like the one I’ve posted below) to provide a wealth of information about different engine and gearbox options.If we can find ANY old ERF NGCs for sale in the '70s/'80s the adverts will give us clues not only about drive-lines but about liveries and owners as well. Thank you! Robert
The online archive shows the adverts:
archive.commercialmotor.com/page … ry-1980/80
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anorak:robert1952:
Can I appeal to any of you who have '70s or '80s Commercial Motors in your lofts or under your beds (ie those of you who haven’t got wives!!), to have a look at the small photo ads in the back of some of them. Over the years I have found the small ads (like the one I’ve posted below) to provide a wealth of information about different engine and gearbox options.If we can find ANY old ERF NGCs for sale in the '70s/'80s the adverts will give us clues not only about drive-lines but about liveries and owners as well. Thank you! Robert
The online archive shows the adverts:
archive.commercialmotor.com/page … ry-1980/80
Blimey - so they do! Well spotted that man. Robert 
robert1952:
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anorak:robert1952:
Can I appeal to any of you who have '70s or '80s Commercial Motors in your lofts or under your beds (ie those of you who haven’t got wives!!), to have a look at the small photo ads in the back of some of them. Over the years I have found the small ads (like the one I’ve posted below) to provide a wealth of information about different engine and gearbox options.If we can find ANY old ERF NGCs for sale in the '70s/'80s the adverts will give us clues not only about drive-lines but about liveries and owners as well. Thank you! Robert
The online archive shows the adverts:
archive.commercialmotor.com/page … ry-1980/80Blimey - so they do! Well spotted that man. Robert
Ya call that a spot? This is a spot:
It’s on the page I linked in my last post, but hidden by the sh*te picture viewer that CM uses.
There is a useful cause behind these advert searches: the asking prices will give an idea of the NGC’s residual values compared to other types, and that is as good a measure as any as to how well they were regarded by the industry. These findings can go into the Second Edition of the book.
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anorak:
There is a useful cause behind these advert searches: the asking prices will give an idea of the NGC’s residual values compared to other types, and that is as good a measure as any as to how well they were regarded by the industry. These findings can go into the Second Edition of the book.
Strewth! I wonder which one it was. Pity there’s no price. Mind you, the resale value in those days may have been depressed by the fact that they were all LHD units. Robert
In a timeframe of 1974-1979 operations you can exclude quite some out of your UK-listing I guess.
Perhaps the Comart? For sure not the Eric Vick’s or the Richard Read’s and Jones’ one
P.G. Horridge? Comart? ■■■■■■■■■■■ then sold to Pountains/Redcap? Greer? ERF Ltd.? Should be an easy one for Sherlock Holmes Hackford!