ERF 'European' (1975)

It’s Edwin Peter Foden (born 1930) as his dad unfortunately did not experience the ERF NGC at that time

ERF-Continental:
It’s Edwin Peter Foden (born 1930) as his dad unfortunately did not experience the ERF NGC at that time

Yes! I did mean Peter Foden, of course; but in the excitement… :laughing: :laughing: Robert

Here (pictured below) are three front 3/4 views of the lorries which took the tall version of the mark 4 Motor Panels cab: the French Mack, the Scammell Crusader and the ERF NGC ‘European’. Only the ERF has a one-piece windscreen. How close did the 7MW cab come to having a split windscreen I wonder. We will probably never know, of course! Just a Good Friday thought. Robert

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The ERF is the easiest on the eye out of the three.

NGC pictures, like No.11 buses, seem to come occasionally but when they do come they come in threes!

I’ve just received a bigger version of Newmercman’s pic, which Truckerash found elsewhere on FB. For those of you are keeping these pics in folders, here it is: Robert

TruckerAsh also sent me this little Easter present he found floating about on FB! It is, of course, the Cauvas (of France) NGC 852. Great shot of it. Robert :smiley:

But this has to be the ‘find’ of the day! :open_mouth: Ashley found this curious picture, again on FB. I reckon it has got to be one of the five extra-long wheelbase NGCs sent out to Falcon Freight in Jeddah. :sunglasses: One of those was the very last MW cab ever built (despatched 22nd Dec 1977) but we have no easy way of knowing if that was the one. Maybe it was and that’s why the photos was taken - who knows? The wheelbase was 5.34m so that looks about right to me. Robert :smiley:

I have eight different colour images of that Cauvas 6x4 unit. In every one it is quite clear that it only has two, instead of three, wipers. :open_mouth: Strange. Wat vreemt! Robert

robert1952:
I have eight different colour images of that Cauvas 6x4 unit. In every one it is quite clear that it only has two, instead of three, wipers. :open_mouth: Strange. Wat vreemt! Robert

The centre spindle is still there. On some other threads, people say they used to take the middle wiper off Scanias, to reduce load on the linkage.

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robert1952:
I have eight different colour images of that Cauvas 6x4 unit. In every one it is quite clear that it only has two, instead of three, wipers. :open_mouth: Strange. Wat vreemt! Robert

The centre spindle is still there. On some other threads, people say they used to take the middle wiper off Scanias, to reduce load on the linkage.

Mystery solved. Robert

That’s for sure the only resemblence with Sandbach Scanias…strange as the Swedes were used to wipe
a lot of rain and snow? Or it is a 3rd April joke :slight_smile:

robert1952:
But this has to be the ‘find’ of the day! :open_mouth: Ashley found this curious picture, again on FB. I reckon it has got to be one of the five extra-long wheelbase NGCs sent out to Falcon Freight in Jeddah. :sunglasses: One of those was the very last MW cab ever built (despatched 22nd Dec 1977) but we have no easy way of knowing if that was the one. Maybe it was and that’s why the photos was taken - who knows? The wheelbase was 5.34m so that looks about right to me. Robert :smiley:

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A superb egg in our easterbasket! We are not spoiled with rigids but the wheelbase could refer to the known rigids?

Some history on the European…Ken Beard was appointed Export Sales Manager in 1973 and had a target
to establish an European network on importers, dealers and service agents. At that time a Dutch consultant
by the name of P.C. (Peter) de Jong from “De Schuur” (Tongerenseweg) in Epe assisted Ken Beard. First
results have been made with CDB (1973), Mabo (1973) and BTI (1974) as importers. Unfortunately around
1979 ERF finally withdrew activities on the continent. Till around 1990 there was a gap in sales and service
for ERF but with Portugal, Spain and France there were new trials (no errors this time) on the continent.

robert1952:
But this has to be the ‘find’ of the day! :open_mouth: Ashley found this curious picture, again on FB. I reckon it has got to be one of the five extra-long wheelbase NGCs sent out to Falcon Freight in Jeddah. :sunglasses: One of those was the very last MW cab ever built (despatched 22nd Dec 1977) but we have no easy way of knowing if that was the one. Maybe it was and that’s why the photos was taken - who knows? The wheelbase was 5.34m so that looks about right to me. Robert :smiley:

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Thinking again…I normally do by the way…perhaps with this chassis a 6x4 could be considered? With all knowledge
made for about 30 years, that solution would/could have been a logical one? Bear in mind the first European (3MW and
5MW…think of André Lecoq, Hye Bros, Van Driessche, Hydrocar, Delsaert) had quite some three-axles. Just an idea?

ERF-Continental:
Some history on the European…Ken Beard was appointed Export Sales Manager in 1973 and had a target
to establish an European network on importers, dealers and service agents. At that time a Dutch consultant
by the name of P.C. (Peter) de Jong from “De Schuur” (Tongerenseweg) in Epe assisted Ken Beard. First
results have been made with CDB (1973), Mabo (1973) and BTI (1974) as importers. Unfortunately around
1979 ERF finally withdrew activities on the continent. Till around 1990 there was a gap in sales and service
for ERF but with Portugal, Spain and France there were new trials (no errors this time) on the continent.

You’ll find references to Peter de Jong in Reitsma’s ‘Flemmish Flyers’ article. Robert

ERF-Continental:

robert1952:
But this has to be the ‘find’ of the day! :open_mouth: Ashley found this curious picture, again on FB. I reckon it has got to be one of the five extra-long wheelbase NGCs sent out to Falcon Freight in Jeddah. :sunglasses: One of those was the very last MW cab ever built (despatched 22nd Dec 1977) but we have no easy way of knowing if that was the one. Maybe it was and that’s why the photos was taken - who knows? The wheelbase was 5.34m so that looks about right to me. Robert :smiley:

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Thinking again…I normally do by the way…perhaps with this chassis a 6x4 could be considered? With all knowledge
made for about 30 years, that solution would/could have been a logical one? Bear in mind the first European (3MW and
5MW…think of André Lecoq, Hye Bros, Van Driessche, Hydrocar, Delsaert) had quite some three-axles. Just an idea?

I think the rear axle assembly was fitted as a complete bogie, so you wouldn’t see just one axle on its own. I may be wrong… Robert

Just a note to regulars on this thread, that I will be off-line for a few days. Back soon! Robert :smiley:

Right, I’m back from Algeria!

Followers of this thread will be aware that Tony Jones of Sandbach was one of the trio of hauliers who formed the consortium VIJORE, which operated a Middle-East service in the '70s. Truckerash sent me this picture of one of Tony Jones’s Fodens. Notice that it has left-hand drive!! Robert

Geoff Luther posted this excellent :smiley: :smiley: picture of PG Horridge’s ERF NGC on the Shipping out of Poole thread. Robert

Driver Bob Jarrett taken by Geoff Luther.jpg

By the way, Geoff wrote that the driver’s name was Bob Jarrett. Robert

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