ERF 'European' (1975)

If you don’t count the two ‘imposters’ with 7MW cabs (ie Pountain’s RHD 6x4 and Loste’s Pacific), I make this 71 ERF NGCs to date. If we can prove that Schaap’s unit became Trans Arabia 126, then the total is 70. Even if the answer is ‘approximately 70’, then we’ve done very well! Robert :smiley:

Regarding the Calor Transport unit, HMO-220N, I have looked at the ERF chassis numbers Excel doc but this registration number is not entered. HMO-224N is entered as an A-series belonging to Calor. In the N-reg section, several (at least five) entries are made for Calor vehicles but no details other than the chassis numbers are given. Robert

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I am wondering if this Calor vehicle might be older than the N-reg suggests. It could just be the original ERF demo vehicle. A few details suggest this: no external radiator cap access; no roof vent at the front; no grille grab-handles - and conveniently, the factory ‘rocket-red’ and white colours just happen to be close to the Calor livery. This is just a thought and pure speculation, but I’d be interested in what other bloggers think. Robert

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Nice and surprising found!!! Quite some purchases and exchanges missed and hindered our attention
and I expect the total number of NGC’s produced/sold will come close to 100 though. I herewith express
a good and sound release of Robert’s gems by describing the ERF NGC-series (aka 7MW cabbed) though!

ERF-Continental:
Nice and surprising found!!! Quite some purchases and exchanges missed and hindered our attention
and I expect the total number of NGC’s produced/sold will come close to 100 though. I herewith express
a good and sound release of Robert’s gems by describing the ERF NGC-series (aka 7MW cabbed) though!

Nowadays it is very hard despite email and google to track and trace the ERF NGC heritages…as the
majority is ‘confirmed’ as been seen or whatever…failing to have genuine pictures or documents. That
being said, I have been told the NGC did show vital rights of existence in terms of moneymakers.

Let’s remember/commemorate the ERF NGC (European) as a genuine pearl to European transportation!

In case some evidence on this remarkable lorry (why British people hate trucks) will become available I will share it.

A noble post! :smiley: I like that: ERF NGC - the pearl of European transport! :smiley: It has quite a ring to it. Robert

PS. I hope you are right and there are 100, because then I’ll have to write a book 2! :laughing: Robert

Regarding the mystery of the Calor Transport unit that looked is if it might have been a demo, I had a phone call from Jerry Cooke (ex-Trans Arabia) this this afternoon and he was able to shed some light on the matter.

Apparently, pet-regs vehicles were not allowed anything that could draw fumes into the cab, so HMO-220N would have been built (or modified) without the front roof vent and without a roof hatch. Furthermore, to meet pet-regs the exhaust would be routed transversely behind the front axle (as they were for A-series, B-series; the pipe was situated in front of the first axle on C-series and E-series). Cheers! Robert

robert1952:
Regarding the mystery of the Calor Transport unit that looked is if it might have been a demo, I had a phone call from Jerry Cooke (ex-Trans Arabia) this this afternoon and he was able to shed some light on the matter.

Apparently, pet-regs vehicles were not allowed anything that could draw fumes into the cab, so HMO-220N would have been built (or modified) without the front roof vent and without a roof hatch. Furthermore, to meet pet-regs the exhaust would be routed transversely behind the front axle (as they were for A-series, B-series; the pipe was situated in front of the first axle on C-series and E-series). Cheers! Robert

Hi Robert
I remember seeing this vehicle (or one like it) when I worked at the Calor workshops in Rushden, Northants between 1977 and 1982. It came in for disposal in around 1981 (Calor had a 7 year replacement policy which figures as its a 1974 reg). In those days all new vehicles came into Rushden for final preparation and all old ones came in for disposal. I remembered this one as is stood out from the other vehicles lined up for disposal and the interior was impressive compared to other ERF’s of the day.

I’m not sure about it being an ex demo vehicle because the registration number is typical of the Calor vehicles of the day, ie MO of HMO being a Berkshire registration. This is where most new vehicles were registered from new as the Calor head office was in Slough.

There are a few items which were typical of Calor vehicles, such as the fog / spot lights which were fitted to all tractor units. The protection around the fuel tank was a typical Calor thing as we used to make and fit bull bars to the front of A and B series. It also has a typical Calor fleet number for a tractor unit and it is fitted in the usual place. As you quite rightly point out it is to a Pet Reg specification. The rear mud wings are metal as opposed to plastic, the exhaust is set in front of the “fire screen” which was a metal screen fitted behind the cab (most Pet Reg vehicles of the day had the exhaust fitted under the front bumper). Roof vents were not allowed or had to be sealed up to prevent flammable gases from entering the cab and finding a source of ignition.

I only remember seeing one of this type of ERF but that is not to say there were not any more.

IAC60:

robert1952:
Regarding the mystery of the Calor Transport unit that looked is if it might have been a demo, I had a phone call from Jerry Cooke (ex-Trans Arabia) this this afternoon and he was able to shed some light on the matter.

Apparently, pet-regs vehicles were not allowed anything that could draw fumes into the cab, so HMO-220N would have been built (or modified) without the front roof vent and without a roof hatch. Furthermore, to meet pet-regs the exhaust would be routed transversely behind the front axle (as they were for A-series, B-series; the pipe was situated in front of the first axle on C-series and E-series). Cheers! Robert

Hi Robert
I remember seeing this vehicle (or one like it) when I worked at the Calor workshops in Rushden, Northants between 1977 and 1982. It came in for disposal in around 1981 (Calor had a 7 year replacement policy which figures as its a 1974 reg). In those days all new vehicles came into Rushden for final preparation and all old ones came in for disposal. I remembered this one as is stood out from the other vehicles lined up for disposal and the interior was impressive compared to other ERF’s of the day.

I’m not sure about it being an ex demo vehicle because the registration number is typical of the Calor vehicles of the day, ie MO of HMO being a Berkshire registration. This is where most new vehicles were registered from new as the Calor head office was in Slough.

There are a few items which were typical of Calor vehicles, such as the fog / spot lights which were fitted to all tractor units. The protection around the fuel tank was a typical Calor thing as we used to make and fit bull bars to the front of A and B series. It also has a typical Calor fleet number for a tractor unit and it is fitted in the usual place. As you quite rightly point out it is to a Pet Reg specification. The rear mud wings are metal as opposed to plastic, the exhaust is set in front of the “fire screen” which was a metal screen fitted behind the cab (most Pet Reg vehicles of the day had the exhaust fitted under the front bumper). Roof vents were not allowed or had to be sealed up to prevent flammable gases from entering the cab and finding a source of ignition.

I only remember seeing one of this type of ERF but that is not to say there were not any more.

Thank you IAC60 for that valuable insight, and for your memory of the sighting. If you think of any more details, however insignificant they may seem, just stick 'em on here. Cheers! Robert :smiley:

A better picture of the lubrication chart for the NGC from october 1973

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ERF-Continental:
A better picture of the lubrication chart for the NGC from october 1973

Oh well done - that’s much clearer! And it shows up the waisted chassis shape nice and clearly too. Robert

It’s hard to believe :open_mouth: that after we thought we had wrung this subject dry, that evidence is still emerging about this ‘Pearl of European transport’! But here is another item, as today I have managed to get my hands on this rather atmospheric picture of KFH 251P with a domestic flat-bed trailer on, but still in its full glory as a ‘Middle-Easter’ complete with Kysor air-conditioning unit aloft. Enjoy! Robert :smiley:

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Spot the ERF NGC on left of this picture of Nelson in front of his Mack. This picture is taken from the Trans Arabia thread this afternoon. My god, I can feel a Lorries of Arabia Book 2 coming on! I wish I’d known about Ron (who posted this picture) and Ken Broster and John West earlier. I have hinted at the history of Trans Arabia in my book, but really someone needs to get down the full story of this incredible outfit! Robert :smiley:

I still can’t get over ERF-Continental’s description of the NGC as the ‘Pearl of European Transport’.

OK then chaps, let’s have some epithets for the NGC. Here are some to get you started:

Pearl of European Transport (A-J)
King of the Mountains (Pat Kennett)
Stonking Hooligan of a Lorry (Saviem)
ERF’s Masterpiece (Robert1952)
Lorries of Arabia (Robert1952)
A Heap (Harry)

Robert :smiley:

@Robert, I was serious on my compliments for the ERF NGC EUROPEAN by saying he/she is (was and will be
in our memories) a pearl …the silent but sturdy way this lorry played a significant role, not only to/from
the continent, even thinking further and far with oriental destinations! Something you British might me very
proud of that pioneers and proven engineers made possible by trying and doing, not trial and error because
I did not notice severe breakdowns or minors during this 50+ pages of automotive heritage!

Just an estimation…if we all ‘skipped’ 2 or 3 NGC’s per country (and we have collected >10 countries from
UK, IRL, NL, B, L, F, CH, GR, UAE, KSA and some unknown perhaps) your volume 2 is assured with a century!

I am still ‘active’ (or actively awaiting) on Switzerland…with ERFIM, NUBAG (according to Saviem dealing with
ERF but I ‘only’ notice involvement on Chrysler/Dodge) and indirectlt Robert Aebi (emphasis on ■■■■■■■ perhaps)
to discover and highlight more findings…time will tell.

Just curiosity…your long awaited book is available from april? Not a poorman’s issue I reckon but perhaps also
in a vanity-form, leathercase, signature of the conservator of memories?

Hee-hee, chance’d be a fine thing! They decided upon soft-back at the last hour. We wait with baited breath… Robert :smiley:

robert1952:
I still can’t get over ERF-Continental’s description of the NGC as the ‘Pearl of European Transport’.

OK then chaps, let’s have some epithets for the NGC. Here are some to get you started:

Pearl of European Transport (A-J)
King of the Mountains (Pat Kennett)
Stonking Hooligan of a Lorry (Saviem)
ERF’s Masterpiece (Robert1952)
Lorries of Arabia (Robert1952)
A Heap (Harry)

Robert :smiley:

F88 Killer. :smiling_imp: :smiley:

Carryfast:

robert1952:
I still can’t get over ERF-Continental’s description of the NGC as the ‘Pearl of European Transport’.

OK then chaps, let’s have some epithets for the NGC. Here are some to get you started:

Pearl of European Transport (A-J)
King of the Mountains (Pat Kennett)
Stonking Hooligan of a Lorry (Saviem)
ERF’s Masterpiece (Robert1952)
Lorries of Arabia (Robert1952)
A Heap (Harry)

Robert :smiley:

F88 Killer. :smiling_imp: :smiley:

:laughing:

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This picture shows a line-up of the five NGC 7MW ERFs destined for Falcon Freight in Dubai. I haven’t released this picture before because of the book and because so little is known about it. We still know almost nothing about these or what became of them. However, ‘E R F’ posted this comment recently on the RHD 5MW thread: ‘The last recorded MW (found so far) is chassis 31927, a model A6.4.CU335 (built on the A-series design chassis), a 4x2 tractor unit dispatched ex –Sun Works on the 22nd of December 1977 to Falcon Freight, Jeddah.’

This raises all sorts of interesting questions: why were they shipped to Jeddah if they were destined for Dubai? What work did they perform? What happened to them? If you Google Falcon Freight Dubai, they are clearly still a successful transport outfit.

Do any of you former ‘internals’ drivers / fitters / administrators know anything more?

The most important question here is: could the MW with chassis 31927 be one of those in the picture?

PS A word of caution here: there is still a remote possibility that the chassis number quoted had a 5MW cab attached, though in December 1977 that is highly unlikely.

It would be exciting to discover that that the last ever ERF MW was a Middle-East NGC 7MW!! Robert :question:

After contacting ‘E R F’ (Peterborough), he and an ERF archivist have confirmed that chassis No. 31927 was a 7MW and was the very last MW ever built. He also adds that it was supplied to Jeddah, not Dubai. This is joyous news indeed. Many thanks to both for their patience and dedication.

This leads to another question. I’ve looked up Falcon Freight and they also operated in Jeddah but I don’t know when. So either the five units went overland from Jeddah to Dubai (HIGHLY likely because the Gulf was blocked in 1977), or the units ended up operating out of Jeddah. Who knows? Robert :smiley: