cookie1:
This photo was taken in Jeddah in late 1976 when S Jones of Aldridge started a company called Trans Arabia in partnership with an Arab company. We started with 6 brand new 7mw 4x2 units, 1 5mw which had been on the Aldridge fleet and 3 LV units. They were used on general haulage throughout the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The 7mws were 14 ltr small cam 290 with 13sp fullers and kirkstall 13ton drive axles. They performed really above and beyond what they were built for, as when loaded with 2x20ft boxes the gross weight was regularly in excess of 50 tonUpdate by Ken Broster October 2014
This picture was taken in October 1976 just after the trucks were registered in the street opposite Villa Trans Arabia. The trucks back onto a girls school - OMG did that cause a few issues with British drivers nearly naked!!!
The initial fleet was 3 @ pre A series 1 @ 5mw all ex Jones UK fleet. 6 @ 7mw new. We then had 2 @ C series 6x4 new then we purchased 6 or was it 12 new Mack conventionals( there’s a story or two to be told their) then 6 or 12 Kenworth cab overs with the same ■■■■■■■ 14litre engine plus fuller and Rockwell Axle - they were £10k each cheaper than the ERF with the same drivetrain hence why we purchased.
Bob Chadwick ERF sales director saw these on the dealers forecourt in Dammam whilst on a visit to Star Commercials there agent in Dammam - he was outraged and jumped on a plane to Jeddah - charged into my office in a fit of rage as us purchasing Kenworth - he then proceeded to threaten to rake the dealership agency of S Jones on his return to the UK which of course never happened.
I got to know Bob quite well when he became the sales director at North a West Triucks Northwich the DAF agent and bought dozens off himself for Harris Road Services a TDG company where I ended up after Trans ArabiaThe biggest problems with the 7mw was - water pumps (we learnt to change them every feb/March) needle bearings in the hub reductions - on reflection I think this may have been down to to low a viscosity axle oil being used. Piston liner erosion - electrolysis
By Ken broster
7mw taking a break in the dessert (Driver: Gypsy Dave)updated by Ken Broster October 2014
Gypsy Dave (Dave Anslow) was an extremely good driver and very resourcefull - have seen him this year at Truckfest in Kelsall Cheshire
7mw pulling a road train somewhere near Jeddah port. They would also pull them all over the kingdom with some serious weight onUpdate by Ken Broster October 2014
Pulling empty containers back into the port for a ship- we used to do hundreds of them per shipment - hence the road train was so useful. Interestingly the trailers were new from York trailers with a single axle doley bogie - single axle doley was not so good so we purchased double axle dolley frame Crane Fruhauf with nxt trailer order. The initial order to York Trailers was for 40ton carrying capacity - well w hen the first batch arrived they were loaded up with 2 containers each of Unilever products and taken to the Binzager warehouse behind Villa Trans Arabia and dropped for unloading - then the truth emerged - one by one the trailers collapsed onto there knees - the landing legs just collapsed under the weight - they were just normal UK standard legs. We went out and purchased and fitted new heavy weight landing legs which were ok. After investigation we found that the trailers were basicly Uk spec at 20tons with a 40ton dreadnought suspension attached. I went to the bank and had the payment to York Trailers stopped - that got them going, eventually they replaced them with the real deal - very good heavy trailers and I bought the originals for £5k each as they could not sell them and would have cost to much to ship them back- all good stuff.
7mw loading a boat
We became the experts at moving boats!! Our customer AlQuarashi was the agent for a number of American leasure goods companies - boats being one of them - they used to arrive in Jeddah port and were unloaded onto barges and then lifted on the quay onto our trailers - the government would not allow AQ to have a mariner on the creek so they had to be parked on their cradles at AQ new showroom site at kilo6 medina road - picture shows crane from a company called Ryan crane Hire - American joint venture - very expensive as I remember.
The person stood on top of the boat is Gogy Robatham from Birmingham - top class driver and me in the foreground - I was thin and handsome in those days
5mw ex S Jones also loading a boatUpdated by Ken Broster October 2014
This boat was the 2nd largest with John Davis number one mechanic stood in top
This boat was eventually taken overland by road to Doha on a low loader - a very interesting and eventful trip for the driver and fitter who took it
Interestingly these boats were taken from the port area at night 2am upto kilo 6 medina road because the traffic would be light - we had 2 or 3 people on top with brooms lifting the wires over as we progressed slowly - if they could not be lifted over - snip snip !! They were telephone wires mainly
A 5mw which was brought 2nd hand from Europe and put through the Aldridge workshop before being sent out to Jeddah. During my time out in the Middle East for Trans Arabia, we had the 6 original 7mw plus one we purchased 2nd hand in Jeddah which was sent back to Aldridge for refurbishing. Then there were 3 second hand ones and a 5mw, all refurbed and sent out plus the 2 Eric Vick 7mw were purchased and came out to Jeddah in early 1983.Update by Ken Broster October 2014
In my 6 years in Jeddah we only purchased one second hand 5mw that came from Beresfords Stoke - on one visit back to the UK I went to ERF dealers in Holland and Brussels to view available 5 & 7mws but they refused to sell!! So I bought the Berefords unit
So the other 2nd hand units must have been bought after 1982I do have quite a few pics which I will post as time (and my son, who is typing this right now) allows
This is wonderful stuff, Ken! Although we’ve seen these pics before but all your detailed comments are fascinating. And you’ve given us a new driver’s name (Gogy Robatham). I imagine that the piston-liner erosion was down to dust and fine sand, which penetrates everything in the desert including engine oil!
It’s interesting that you say that you acquired a 5MW from Beresford’s. As far as I know, the only LHD 5MW Beresford’s had was PVT 646R, which had a Rolls Royce 220 and 10-speed Fuller in it. It also had that alternative front panel with the dummy radiator on it, which doesn’t match any of the pictures. Or was it an A-series that came from Beresford - you had two of those?
York fobbing you off with under-specced trailers can’t have enhanced the export quality-product culture of the day, alas!
I look forward to more. Have a look back through the thread for more TA pictures that might jog your memory. And if you have some of your own, all the better! Regards, Robert 
Nice to experience the missing data on Trans Arabia Ken!
On your statement “On one visit back to the UK I went to ERF dealers in Holland and Brussels to view
available 5 & 7mws but they refused to sell!!” I can only wonder as well why Messrs. Denonville/CDB
did refuse to sell. In general that company was very strong in M/E-deliveries (Autocar and White) but
perhaps Sandbach HQ did refuse to transit ERF’s to M/E? On the Dutch dealer I can not react but as
earlier posted by Saviem…there were advertisements on selling MW’s and B’s by the mid seventies.
Look forward to more of your posts and experience! Alex
Ken - just to jog your memory a bit regarding a possible 5MW from Beresford’s: according to Jerry Cooke, you acquired Beresford’s 7MW (NGC) registed JDF 132N which became No. 125 in the Trans Arabia fleet (with a ■■■■■■■ 335 / 9-speed Fuller). This follows the comment I made earier : It’s interesting that you say that you acquired a 5MW from Beresford’s. As far as I know, the only LHD 5MW Beresford’s had was PVT 646R, which had a Rolls Royce 220 and 10-speed Fuller in it. It also had that alternative front panel with the dummy radiator on it, which doesn’t match any of the pictures. Best wishes, Robert 
robert1952:
Ken - just to jog your memory a bit regarding a possible 5MW from Beresford’s: according to Jerry Cooke, you acquired Beresford’s 7MW (NGC) registed JDF 132N which became No. 125 in the Trans Arabia fleet (with a ■■■■■■■ 335 / 9-speed Fuller). This follows the comment I made earier : It’s interesting that you say that you acquired a 5MW from Beresford’s. As far as I know, the only LHD 5MW Beresford’s had was PVT 646R, which had a Rolls Royce 220 and 10-speed Fuller in it. It also had that alternative front panel with the dummy radiator on it, which doesn’t match any of the pictures. Best wishes, Robert
Update by Ken Broster October 2014
You could right it’s so long ago - funnily I became very friendly with Ken Berisford thru the Transport Association in the 1980s whilst at Harissa Road services - he used to pull my leg about buying that vehicle
En-Tour-Age:
Don’t know if this one has been posted…the ex-■■■■■■■ and Pountains before Jona bought it?
Good find!!! According to what I read/found this tractor was registrated roughly 19 years and had 3 owners before Jona had it.
A-J
robert1952:
As I understand it, the 'fridge trailers arrived in Jeddah by sea and were tipped by Trans Arabia units at various destinations on the Arabian Peninula. RobertUpdate by Ken Broster October 2014
The trailers were only shipped into Jeddah and Dammam and offloaded into Binzager cold stores.
No onward distribution was done on these trailers - they w ere unreliable - ok whilst plug on aboard the ships.
We used to inspect every 2 hours on the quay whilst awaiting customs clearance. They stopped on a regular basis.
Remember one customs officer demanding a strip out onto the quay as there was not refrigerated transshipment area on the dock - the ice cream got a bit soft.
We also did an overland stock shipment from Dammam to Jeddah. I was in Damman when it left - I flew back to Jeddah that night - at lunchtime nxt day the driver walked in - a Philippine driver. - I looked at him and said “that was quick driving” he replied fridge broke down at Riyhad so just drove non stop. JD fixed the fridge in minutes and we left it running to get the temp down before delivery. Load was ok3210
Quote Mr Saviem on an early post
I recall that at the time that David, and Michael tried to purchase “in bulk” for Trans Arabia, ERF were struggling to satisfy to fleet orders in terms of chassis production. All were for UK operations, and would give ERF market leadership in the 28 tons plus segment of the market, as measured by registration statistics provided by the SMMT, (Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders). This leadership would have given comfort to the Institutional Shareholders, so important to provide funding liquidity essential for ERFs future.
The potential afforded by the request for Europeans by S Jones must have been very tempting, but preservation of the penetration within the domestic UK market was essential for ERF, and ERF were struggling to evolve a credible European market strategy, as well as maintain, and increase their UK market share. The potential was there, but could they produce, and vitally support the sold product. Sadly the answer was no they could not!
Trans Arabia was a bold move for S Jones. The creation , with a local partner, into a market place where potential earnings from a limited capital investment base, could, within a five year period have equalled that of the existing Group was a stunning strategy. David Hughes was good with his numbers, but in relative terms S Jones as a Grouping, (all businesses, Transport, Shipping, Vehicle Distribution), was a mini supertanker, and turning it around was not going to be a quick fix! And so it proved.
The ERF European, and various other non UK market products offered by ERF are an interesting point of study. The products would stand equal alongside those of any other manufacturer, either vertically integrated, or assembler. But establishing, and making sure that the financial integrity of any European Dealer Network remained viable was a far harder problem to solve, and this latter point for any product is just as important as the build quality/economy of operation.
Bryan Hunt can be credited with starting to prepare ERF for Europe and beyond, and of course my friend John Bryant drove things forward at a great pace, but despite excellent products, ERF was a financial minnow in both European and world terms, Western Star became the suitor, then of course our Teutonic friends…and ERF is no more.
I applaud this discourse on the European examples of ERF, like so often just a glimpse of what might have been…
Kenb:
robert1952:
As I understand it, the 'fridge trailers arrived in Jeddah by sea and were tipped by Trans Arabia units at various destinations on the Arabian Peninula. RobertUpdate by Ken Broster October 2014
The trailers were only shipped into Jeddah and Dammam and offloaded into Binzager cold stores.
No onward distribution was done on these trailers - they w ere unreliable - ok whilst plug on aboard the ships.
We used to inspect every 2 hours on the quay whilst awaiting customs clearance. They stopped on a regular basis.
Remember one customs officer demanding a strip out onto the quay as there was not refrigerated transshipment area on the dock - the ice cream got a bit soft.
We also did an overland stock shipment from Dammam to Jeddah. I was in Damman when it left - I flew back to Jeddah that night - at lunchtime nxt day the driver walked in - a Philippine driver. - I looked at him and said “that was quick driving” he replied fridge broke down at Riyhad so just drove non stop. JD fixed the fridge in minutes and we left it running to get the temp down before delivery. Load was ok3210
A nice bit of detail. Robert
En-Tour-Age:
Don’t know if this one has been posted…the ex-■■■■■■■ and Pountains before Jona bought it?
Yes this picture was posted early in the thread, or perhaps it was on the Eric Vick thread or the Vijore Middle East thread - either way it was posted a couple of years ago. If you haven’t seen it before A-J it probably means that you haven’t seen those other NGC threads, so I’ll ‘bump them up’ for you now so that you can enjoy them as they are older than this thread. By the way I posted a few more of this pic in the same livery that Mick Jones took of its dismantling. I’ve never seen a picture of it in Pountain’s livery - perhaps there is one out there somewhere… Robert
I today spoke (via linkedin-account) with Chris Schaap, also active in logistics and transport…
coincidence is that he is NOT family of the Schaap Transport Rotterdam NGC/7MW but he did
answer that his dad had also a NGC/7MW and that was by far the best truck he experienced!
More to come hopefully…
ERF-Continental:
I today spoke (via linkedin-account) with Chris Schaap, also active in logistics and transport…
coincidence is that he is NOT family of the Schaap Transport Rotterdam NGC/7MW but he did
answer that his dad had also a NGC/7MW and that was by far the best truck he experienced!More to come hopefully…
Now that’s a good lead… Let’s hope it yields a ‘new’ NGC for us! Robert
I sincerely hope it will yield a new gem for your book! Then > 25 NGC’s for BeNelux with proof!
@Alexander: apologies!! Astonishingly, that pic that you posted has been on my files for a couple of years and I honestly thought that I’d taken it from this thread. I’ve now checked through the thread and I cannot find it, so I’m glad that you have posted it on the thread! Cheers, Robert
robert1952:
This is wonderful stuff, Ken! Although we’ve seen these pics before but all your detailed comments are fascinating. And you’ve given us a new driver’s name (Gogy Robatham). I imagine that the piston-liner erosion was down to dust and fine sand, which penetrates everything in the desert including engine oil!It’s interesting that you say that you acquired a 5MW from Beresford’s. As far as I know, the only LHD 5MW Beresford’s had was PVT 646R, which had a Rolls Royce 220 and 10-speed Fuller in it. It also had that alternative front panel with the dummy radiator on it, which doesn’t match any of the pictures. Or was it an A-series that came from Beresford - you had two of those?
York fobbing you off with under-specced trailers can’t have enhanced the export quality-product culture of the day, alas!
I look forward to more. Have a look back through the thread for more TA pictures that might jog your memory. And if you have some of your own, all the better! Regards, Robert
The driver on top of the boat with no shirt is Yoyo and the other is Mick Jillings.
@ A-J: 25 Benelux is a respectable number!
@ Jona: thanks for that detail, Mick!
This picture, below, was sold on ebay a couple of years ago. It would be great if anyone who has it could post it on this thread!
Robert
@Robert: I agree with >25 NGC’s for Benelux, but what really worries me is that the numbers on
the 5MW and B remain relatively low in general. I hope to find out more if there were some/any
5MW’s sold in Netherlands as that counter is now zero.
Nice day, A-J
Kenb:
cookie1:
This photo was taken in Jeddah in late 1976 when S Jones of Aldridge started a company called Trans Arabia in partnership with an Arab company. We started with 6 brand new 7mw 4x2 units, 1 5mw which had been on the Aldridge fleet and 3 LV units. They were used on general haulage throughout the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The 7mws were 14 ltr small cam 290 with 13sp fullers and kirkstall 13ton drive axles. They performed really above and beyond what they were built for, as when loaded with 2x20ft boxes the gross weight was regularly in excess of 50 tonUpdate by Ken Broster October 2014
This picture was taken in October 1976 just after the trucks were registered in the street opposite Villa Trans Arabia. The trucks back onto a girls school - OMG did that cause a few issues with British drivers nearly naked!!!
The initial fleet was 3 @ pre A series 1 @ 5mw all ex Jones UK fleet. 6 @ 7mw new. We then had 2 @ C series 6x4 new then we purchased 6 or was it 12 new Mack conventionals( there’s a story or two to be told their) then 6 or 12 Kenworth cab overs with the same ■■■■■■■ 14litre engine plus fuller and Rockwell Axle - they were £10k each cheaper than the ERF with the same drivetrain hence why we purchased.
Bob Chadwick ERF sales director saw these on the dealers forecourt in Dammam whilst on a visit to Star Commercials there agent in Dammam - he was outraged and jumped on a plane to Jeddah - charged into my office in a fit of rage as us purchasing Kenworth - he then proceeded to threaten to rake the dealership agency of S Jones on his return to the UK which of course never happened.
I got to know Bob quite well when he became the sales director at North a West Triucks Northwich the DAF agent and bought dozens off himself for Harris Road Services a TDG company where I ended up after Trans ArabiaThe biggest problems with the 7mw was - water pumps (we learnt to change them every feb/March) needle bearings in the hub reductions - on reflection I think this may have been down to to low a viscosity axle oil being used. Piston liner erosion - electrolysis
By Ken broster
7mw taking a break in the dessert (Driver: Gypsy Dave)updated by Ken Broster October 2014
Gypsy Dave (Dave Anslow) was an extremely good driver and very resourcefull - have seen him this year at Truckfest in Kelsall Cheshire
7mw pulling a road train somewhere near Jeddah port. They would also pull them all over the kingdom with some serious weight onUpdate by Ken Broster October 2014
Pulling empty containers back into the port for a ship- we used to do hundreds of them per shipment - hence the road train was so useful. Interestingly the trailers were new from York trailers with a single axle doley bogie - single axle doley was not so good so we purchased double axle dolley frame Crane Fruhauf with nxt trailer order. The initial order to York Trailers was for 40ton carrying capacity - well w hen the first batch arrived they were loaded up with 2 containers each of Unilever products and taken to the Binzager warehouse behind Villa Trans Arabia and dropped for unloading - then the truth emerged - one by one the trailers collapsed onto there knees - the landing legs just collapsed under the weight - they were just normal UK standard legs. We went out and purchased and fitted new heavy weight landing legs which were ok. After investigation we found that the trailers were basicly Uk spec at 20tons with a 40ton dreadnought suspension attached. I went to the bank and had the payment to York Trailers stopped - that got them going, eventually they replaced them with the real deal - very good heavy trailers and I bought the originals for £5k each as they could not sell them and would have cost to much to ship them back- all good stuff.
7mw loading a boat
We became the experts at moving boats!! Our customer AlQuarashi was the agent for a number of American leasure goods companies - boats being one of them - they used to arrive in Jeddah port and were unloaded onto barges and then lifted on the quay onto our trailers - the government would not allow AQ to have a mariner on the creek so they had to be parked on their cradles at AQ new showroom site at kilo6 medina road - picture shows crane from a company called Ryan crane Hire - American joint venture - very expensive as I remember.
The person stood on top of the boat is Gogy Robatham from Birmingham - top class driver and me in the foreground - I was thin and handsome in those days
5mw ex S Jones also loading a boatUpdated by Ken Broster October 2014
This boat was the 2nd largest with John Davis number one mechanic stood in top
This boat was eventually taken overland by road to Doha on a low loader - a very interesting and eventful trip for the driver and fitter who took it
Interestingly these boats were taken from the port area at night 2am upto kilo 6 medina road because the traffic would be light - we had 2 or 3 people on top with brooms lifting the wires over as we progressed slowly - if they could not be lifted over - snip snip !! They were telephone wires mainly
A 5mw which was brought 2nd hand from Europe and put through the Aldridge workshop before being sent out to Jeddah. During my time out in the Middle East for Trans Arabia, we had the 6 original 7mw plus one we purchased 2nd hand in Jeddah which was sent back to Aldridge for refurbishing. Then there were 3 second hand ones and a 5mw, all refurbed and sent out plus the 2 Eric Vick 7mw were purchased and came out to Jeddah in early 1983.Update by Ken Broster October 2014
In my 6 years in Jeddah we only purchased one second hand 5mw that came from Beresfords Stoke - on one visit back to the UK I went to ERF dealers in Holland and Brussels to view available 5 & 7mws but they refused to sell!! So I bought the Berefords unit
So the other 2nd hand units must have been bought after 1982I do have quite a few pics which I will post as time (and my son, who is typing this right now) allows
The driver on top of the boat is Yoyo and the other driver is Mick Jillings.
Jona:
Kenb:
cookie1:
This photo was taken in Jeddah in late 1976 when S Jones of Aldridge started a company called Trans Arabia in partnership with an Arab company. We started with 6 brand new 7mw 4x2 units, 1 5mw which had been on the Aldridge fleet and 3 LV units. They were used on general haulage throughout the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The 7mws were 14 ltr small cam 290 with 13sp fullers and kirkstall 13ton drive axles. They performed really above and beyond what they were built for, as when loaded with 2x20ft boxes the gross weight was regularly in excess of 50 tonUpdate by Ken Broster October 2014
This picture was taken in October 1976 just after the trucks were registered in the street opposite Villa Trans Arabia. The trucks back onto a girls school - OMG did that cause a few issues with British drivers nearly naked!!!
The initial fleet was 3 @ pre A series 1 @ 5mw all ex Jones UK fleet. 6 @ 7mw new. We then had 2 @ C series 6x4 new then we purchased 6 or was it 12 new Mack conventionals( there’s a story or two to be told their) then 6 or 12 Kenworth cab overs with the same ■■■■■■■ 14litre engine plus fuller and Rockwell Axle - they were £10k each cheaper than the ERF with the same drivetrain hence why we purchased.
Bob Chadwick ERF sales director saw these on the dealers forecourt in Dammam whilst on a visit to Star Commercials there agent in Dammam - he was outraged and jumped on a plane to Jeddah - charged into my office in a fit of rage as us purchasing Kenworth - he then proceeded to threaten to rake the dealership agency of S Jones on his return to the UK which of course never happened.
I got to know Bob quite well when he became the sales director at North a West Triucks Northwich the DAF agent and bought dozens off himself for Harris Road Services a TDG company where I ended up after Trans ArabiaThe biggest problems with the 7mw was - water pumps (we learnt to change them every feb/March) needle bearings in the hub reductions - on reflection I think this may have been down to to low a viscosity axle oil being used. Piston liner erosion - electrolysis
By Ken broster
7mw taking a break in the dessert (Driver: Gypsy Dave)updated by Ken Broster October 2014
Gypsy Dave (Dave Anslow) was an extremely good driver and very resourcefull - have seen him this year at Truckfest in Kelsall Cheshire
7mw pulling a road train somewhere near Jeddah port. They would also pull them all over the kingdom with some serious weight onUpdate by Ken Broster October 2014
Pulling empty containers back into the port for a ship- we used to do hundreds of them per shipment - hence the road train was so useful. Interestingly the trailers were new from York trailers with a single axle doley bogie - single axle doley was not so good so we purchased double axle dolley frame Crane Fruhauf with nxt trailer order. The initial order to York Trailers was for 40ton carrying capacity - well w hen the first batch arrived they were loaded up with 2 containers each of Unilever products and taken to the Binzager warehouse behind Villa Trans Arabia and dropped for unloading - then the truth emerged - one by one the trailers collapsed onto there knees - the landing legs just collapsed under the weight - they were just normal UK standard legs. We went out and purchased and fitted new heavy weight landing legs which were ok. After investigation we found that the trailers were basicly Uk spec at 20tons with a 40ton dreadnought suspension attached. I went to the bank and had the payment to York Trailers stopped - that got them going, eventually they replaced them with the real deal - very good heavy trailers and I bought the originals for £5k each as they could not sell them and would have cost to much to ship them back- all good stuff.
7mw loading a boat
We became the experts at moving boats!! Our customer AlQuarashi was the agent for a number of American leasure goods companies - boats being one of them - they used to arrive in Jeddah port and were unloaded onto barges and then lifted on the quay onto our trailers - the government would not allow AQ to have a mariner on the creek so they had to be parked on their cradles at AQ new showroom site at kilo6 medina road - picture shows crane from a company called Ryan crane Hire - American joint venture - very expensive as I remember.
The person stood on top of the boat is Gogy Robatham from Birmingham - top class driver and me in the foreground - I was thin and handsome in those days
5mw ex S Jones also loading a boatUpdated by Ken Broster October 2014
This boat was the 2nd largest with John Davis number one mechanic stood in top
This boat was eventually taken overland by road to Doha on a low loader - a very interesting and eventful trip for the driver and fitter who took it
Interestingly these boats were taken from the port area at night 2am upto kilo 6 medina road because the traffic would be light - we had 2 or 3 people on top with brooms lifting the wires over as we progressed slowly - if they could not be lifted over - snip snip !! They were telephone wires mainly
A 5mw which was brought 2nd hand from Europe and put through the Aldridge workshop before being sent out to Jeddah. During my time out in the Middle East for Trans Arabia, we had the 6 original 7mw plus one we purchased 2nd hand in Jeddah which was sent back to Aldridge for refurbishing. Then there were 3 second hand ones and a 5mw, all refurbed and sent out plus the 2 Eric Vick 7mw were purchased and came out to Jeddah in early 1983.Update by Ken Broster October 2014
In my 6 years in Jeddah we only purchased one second hand 5mw that came from Beresfords Stoke - on one visit back to the UK I went to ERF dealers in Holland and Brussels to view available 5 & 7mws but they refused to sell!! So I bought the Berefords unit
So the other 2nd hand units must have been bought after 1982I do have quite a few pics which I will post as time (and my son, who is typing this right now) allows
The driver on top of the boat is Yoyo and the other driver is Mick Jillings.
Also there is a Jones’s reunion on 25/10/14 if you are interested. Jona
@Ken and Mick…in all fairness…it would greatly add and atribut if you both would write
the experiences and expectations with and without ERF-considerations.
With respect…what was your idea on the NL/B-visit for 5MW’s and 7MW’s as well as the fact
that Bob (Robert Chadwick) reacted that way on Kenworth-purchases?
A-J