ERF 'European' (1975)

Was going to straighten out that snap above but the proxy won’t allow it.Economical with the wipers. Its on Brit trade plates btw.

To prevent you all to get excited…the registration is “082.JU” just a Belgian-plate, with reference to what
tiptop explained on registrations in Belgium.

ERF-Continental:
To prevent you all to get excited…the registration is “082.JU” just a Belgian-plate, with reference to what
tiptop explained on registrations in Belgium.

Ah! So that might be that mystery solved. But it is the triangle attached to the plate that makes it strongly resemble a Brit trade-plate. Have you any idea why it has a triangle, as I haven’t seen them in Belgium before? Here below is a picture of a British trade licence plate: the configuration of numbers and letters matches the the plate on the ERF. You can see the triangle clearly. Regards, Robert :slight_smile:

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And for which purpose it is parked in Pittem-yard with presumed British-registration?

It was a neglected (*mounted") plate, nothing more, nothing less

ERF-Continental:
And for which purpose it is parked in Pittem-yard with presumed British-registration?

It was a neglected (*mounted") plate, nothing more, nothing less

Do we know for sure that it is in a yard in Pittem? If Colin’s dad did take these pictures, it is quite likely to be in a yard in UK - just a thought… Robert

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Hey, here a pic of belgian plates, left an old (small 5 ) given out in the '60’s now used from an other or given out back by Kantersteen. Can’t remember if it was ours. On the right new in '73 (longer with 6 signs) that got we new as that one was new in '73.
But back on thread, maybe it can be that Demeulemeester’s ERF was taken in the old yard but doubt. But ready to export with UK workshop plates.But look at the lowloader that must be in the UK pictured. Because it looks like that the top of the lowloader on the English red/blue one, looks very like that staying behind Demeulemeester ERF.
Than everything would be photographed in the UK. The old demeulemeester yard was in Egem and they later moved to Tielt some km further, and as you see the ERF isn’t new anymore, so late '70s the new yard must already been used. And with three letters OBZ if I see it good was never given out in that way,but very difficult the identify Belgian plates. Some were easy with a P in the old five characters it was a Bus or coach and Taxi’s. The more I look it doesn’t like a Belgian plate. Can’t recognize if it is the UK or Belgium where the pic was made.

That’s only my view and point about the pic, sorry if I see it compleet wrong.

Cheers Eric,

Here a bit roughly the years;

Bye Eric,

You are right about the low-loader trailer, Eric, and I recognised the UK trade plate the very first time I saw the picture a couple of years ago, because I was with Jerry Cooke at the time and we both commented on it. Harry noticed it too. So these pics of the Belgian unit appear to have been taken at John Simmons’s yard at Rothley or perhaps somewhere else in Leicestershire. Perhaps Colin Walace or someone can confirm this location for us, if they recognise it. The next question is: was the Pittem unit bought for spares for John’s own NGC? Or was it put back on the road? By the look of it, I would guess it was going to be cannibalised; but we don’t know. If you have any more pics of the yard, Colin, perhaps we can gain more clues. Robert :slight_smile:

The Pittem unit was bought for spares. John had his own trade plates (JU was a Leicester registration) and the photo’s would have been taken shortly after they got it back to the yard in Rothley, Leicestershire. I can only guess at the year, probably 1982/3. It was bought from Translitre near Burton upon Trent, but how it found its way there from Pittem I don’t know. Apparently it was fitted with larger rear springs than GEH so they were swapped to help with the heavy haulage, although it was sourced mainly for its engine. I think the doors might have been used too, when GEH was resprayed. These are the only 2 photo’s my dad took of it. Cheers all. Colin.

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The Pittem unit was bought for spares. John had his own trade plates (JU was a Leicester registration) and the photo’s would have been taken shortly after they got it back to the yard in Rothley, Leicestershire. I can only guess at the year, probably 1982/3. It was bought from Translitre near Burton upon Trent, but how it found its way there from Pittem I don’t know. Apparently it was fitted with larger rear springs than GEH so they were swapped to help with the heavy haulage, although it was sourced mainly for its engine. I think the doors might have been used too, when GEH was resprayed. These are the only 2 photo’s my dad took of it. Cheers all. Colin.

Bingo! Thanks Colin, you have answered all my questions. Our detective work between us led to the right man in the end! Robert :slight_smile:

Good! Now while we are in the mood for solving little 40-year-old ERF NGC mysteries, has anyone any new intelligence on the red and white job with the tilt pictured below. It has come up for discussion at various times. Wobbe Reitsma believed it to be a French demo truck. A-J pointed out that it was parked outside CDB (■■■■■■■ Distributors Belgium) in Belgium, and suggested that it might be a tractive unit belonging to Thibaut of Belgium (who we know for certain had an NGC drawbar wagon). Philippe Mathurin pointed out that ERFs at that time came from CDB rather than Mabo (the French distributors), the implication being that it could still be a French demonstrator. Anything new on this one chaps? Robert :slight_smile:

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I say, isn’t it marvellous how this old girls keeps popping up in its various guises! It’s HNV 59N, the one operated by ■■■■■■■■ Redcap and by Pountain’s. There are no pictures on here of it in Pountain’s livery - anyone seen any?

The giant, offset C on the front stands for ‘■■■■■■■■■ Robert :laughing:

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Hi Robert,heres a few more shots of HNV,Cheers Bubbs, :wink:

‘Wilbur the Pig’ eh? I expect Harry’s was called ‘Shaun the Shed’! :laughing: Thanks for posting these gems, Bubbleman. Some interesting details: that yellow trailer looks like a specialist job of some sort; the unit appears to be in Redcap’s livery; an E-series corner logo has been attached to the grille, an old trick beloved of the showground folk with their B & C-series ERFs, but I’ve never seen it done to an NGC; and the big chunky ERF letters which were missing off the unit when ■■■■■■■ had it, have reappeared lower down the front. Cheers! Robert :smiley:

I have just re-read what I posted here about the red and white outfit that might be French or Belgian. I omitted a very important point: that A-J also informed us that as a result of his research, we can now be certain that Thibaut had an NGC tractor as well as its drawbar motortwagen’. I don’t doubt this for a moment. My question is: does this info match the picture? Robert

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‘Wilbur the Pig’ eh? I expect Harry’s was called ‘Shaun the Shed’! :laughing: Thanks for posting these gems, Bubbleman. Some interesting details: that yellow trailer looks like a specialist job of some sort; the unit appears to be in Redcap’s livery; an E-series corner logo has been attached to the grille, an old trick beloved of the showground folk with their B & C-series ERFs, but I’ve never seen it done to an NGC; and the big chunky ERF letters which were missing off the unit when ■■■■■■■ had it, have reappeared lower down the front. Cheers! Robert :smiley:

What harry called that heap can’t be printed here. It was a fight to the death & I nearly lost!

harry:

robert1952:
‘Wilbur the Pig’ eh? I expect Harry’s was called ‘Shaun the Shed’! :laughing: Thanks for posting these gems, Bubbleman. Some interesting details: that yellow trailer looks like a specialist job of some sort; the unit appears to be in Redcap’s livery; an E-series corner logo has been attached to the grille, an old trick beloved of the showground folk with their B & C-series ERFs, but I’ve never seen it done to an NGC; and the big chunky ERF letters which were missing off the unit when ■■■■■■■ had it, have reappeared lower down the front. Cheers! Robert :smiley:

What harry called that heap can’t be printed here. It was a fight to the death & I nearly lost!

I take it the name was Carl, then! Robert :laughing:

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You can’t polish a erf. Just a heap of metal in the snow…