Being by no means an automotive technician…I think the position the indicators are/were placed
was quite definite…between upper and lower hinge (for 5MW) and under lower hinge (for 7MW)
and I rarely overheard operators replaced brackets for mirrors…but once a West Coast-mirror
was damaged…a mirror (then available) was placed as a ‘modification’ or to have the vehicle ready
for the next-day-job!
We discussed the bumper, tow-bar and other visible items, but to be honest, I am open for elimination
and confirmation an ERF NGC pops up in a changed look somewhere, before we regard it as a find? 
ERF-Continental:
Being by no means an automotive technician…I think the position the indicators are/were placed
was quite definite…between upper and lower hinge (for 5MW) and under lower hinge (for 7MW)
and I rarely overheard operators replaced brackets for mirrors…but once a West Coast-mirror
was damaged…a mirror (then available) was placed as a ‘modification’ or to have the vehicle ready
for the next-day-job!
We discussed the bumper, tow-bar and other visible items, but to be honest, I am open for elimination
and confirmation an ERF NGC pops up in a changed look somewhere, before we regard it as a find?
We don’t have to worry about the NGC because all but a couple had sticky-out indicators. This new discussion is about the 5MWs isn’t it? As for the positioning: I think that is dictated by construction and use regulations. In the meantime, to broaden this out again, have a look at the Dutch Middle-East thread I’ve just revived! Robert 
We have a small year of crowd funding…let’s try to give Robert his ideal truck:
- ■■■■■■■ power (I doubt if it requires a grille change) NTC335 is first choice
- Fuller 9-speed (twin splitter)
- ERF 5MW cabbed, optional KYSOR (thanks to newmercman)
- Kirkstall heavy duty axles so waist/wide chassis
- Jake brake
- Twin bunk or extra fridge and cooker
- Michelin-tyres (please add all road maps)
- Snap-On spanners / toolkit
- Dealer boots (CDB)
- Number-plate [NGC420]
- Striking Hackford red and Van Steenbergen yellow
Is the description of your dreamtruck covering all desires?
Perhaps a Driver Handbook in English? Who is in charge for servicing?
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If I were a haulier in 1976 and I wanted to order a left-hand drive 4x2 tractive unit powered by a ■■■■■■■ NTC 335
coupled to a Fuller 9-speed gearbox for TIR work, which manufacturers could meet my needs?
I have come up with the following list:
ERF NGC 420 (7MW cab, lots made)
ERF MGC 380 (5MW cab, lots made)
Leyland Marathon (very few made with ■■■■■■■ 335 - one preserved)
Ford Transcontinental (■■■■■■■ 335 offered but I know of none actually supplied)
Seddon-Atkinson 400 (several LHD 335-powered units supplied to OHS and others exported to Greece, but otherwise rare)
Kenworth K100 (I know of USA units with 335s but not of any supplied to Europe)
I meanwhile emailed you a sales brochure of 1974 from ■■■■■■■ (they did so for quite some truck-makes just as S-A, E.R.F.,
Dodge) in which they spec a LHD Foden-tractor WITH NTC335 ‘but’ a Foden-gearbox…which could also have been a Fuller?
Suppose Fuller was better to service than (with all respect) the Foden-gearbox when you are heading to M/E?
I remember Van Steenbergen bought a FAUN-tractor (normally powered by KHD) without engine and gearbox. They then
ordered a ■■■■■■■ as well as Fuller to have their own specific assembly.
If I were a haulier in 1976 looking for a lorry to go to the M/E I would have bought an F89 or a 1632 Merc.
Personally ■■■■■■■ would have had little appeal because of the lack of service points along the route, in contrast to Volvo or Mercedes, who not only had a wide ranging service network, they had also put 1000s of trucks in service in the state owned transport companies of the eastern bloc. Hitching a ride back to Turkey or Sofia for a new water pump had to be easier than going back to Belgium for the ■■■■■■■ equivalent.
If it had to be a ■■■■■■■■ then I would have followed the crowd and bought the Big Henry with a 355.
As good a lorry as the European appears to be, the reasons they were so thin on the ground would have been the reason I never bought one 
All I did was to ask bloggers how many LHD ■■■■■■■ 335 / Fuller 9-speed units they could think of from the '70. I said nothing about the Middle-East. I also said nothing about looking for my favourite truck - I already KNOW that!
So getting back to my original question, A-J has discovered a LHD Foden 24a (the one with the dinner-plate headlamps) with a 335, which is most interesting! However, it has the Foden gearbox, not Fuller. Robert 
@Robert…get well soon and sorry you feel not well about the proceedings on this thread. To my opinion (await
what is popping up in the near future) a lot (perhaps everything) is said by now on the European? Let’s split/remain
in a positive way and await your book around summer with keen interest, to have a nice Sancère in our backyards…
while remembering the probably best truck E.R.F. made for continental use! Thanks a lot to all participants for
all active input! Best regards…A-J
Quite some time ago Philippe Methurin, a Frenchman interested in British-built trucks, very kindly sent me a number of pictures he’d taken of the ERF in the woods. The ERF NGC, operated by Collin, has remained derelict but intact for a number of years. It is thought to have an NTC335, but it appears to have 13-speed Fuller if you look at the picture below. Philippe took them about 3 years ago. We have mentioned it on this thread several times and I have posted some pictures, but I never thought to put the rest of them on here, so here they are. Enjoy! Robert
Not easy, not cheap but possibly a worth while restauration-project?
I know of several restauration for which different suppliers granted spares for free!
Perhaps M.A.N. in Ulm has a museum to fill just like Volkswagen of the same group?
Some upholstery refurbish…perhaps a trucknetuk crowdfunding-project?
Where is the vehicle now? Still in the woods/fields? Who owns it?
It was advertised in REVS a while back for a ridiculously high sum, as if it were already restored, I’m told. All the original fittings are still in place, but the cab would want a lot of work. It’s probably situated in the woods near where R Collin was based. Robert:)
R Collin operated out of Montillot. The registration number is 1557PF89. Robert
To my humble opinion…
A) Cosmetics…grinding, possible replacing/welding, primer, lacking…
B) Interior…cleaning, refurbishment, missing items…upholstery
C) Engine (all is available in Mechelen(B)…)
D) Gearbox, driveline, steering, axles, springs, brakes…
E) Electrical
F) Tyres (all available…regardless make)
@Robert…should be a once in a lifetime restauration-project approaching a possible semi-retirement?
