Discussions on another ERF thread about the A-series has reminded me that we have had many a heated discussion on this thread about the relationship between the A-series chassis and the NGC. One of my references has been an excellent article in the February 1998 edition of TRUCKING INTERNATIONAL by Peter Davies. I can’t think why I didn’t scan that article and post it on this thread a long time ago! Never mind: it is still very relevant, so here it is: Robert
Here is the latest news on ERF NGCs!
Jerry Cooke contacted me this weekend and said that he went to Sandbach show earlier in April and while he was there he spoke to one of ERFs service engineers who used to go out to Trans Arabia in Jeddah. Jerry told him about the book and he went and bought one off the revs stand! He told Jerry that they could have sold hundreds of NGCs because they were, in his opinion, one of the finest machines ever made by ERF but that the B series were being pushed hard.
Jerry also mentioned the NGC in the picture below, which he now thinks is fleet no 124 which was had 335 with a 9 speed fuller and which came second hand. Apparently, Jerry’s dad had picked it up from Harwich along with 126 so he reckons they probably both came from Holland (rather than 124 coming from France as previously thought). Jerry recalls that 124 had a bar round the battery box so it may at sometime been used on ADR work. Robert
robert1952:
Here is the latest news on ERF NGCs!Jerry Cooke contacted me this weekend and said that he went to Sandbach show earlier in April and while he was there he spoke to one of ERFs service engineers who used to go out to Trans Arabia in Jeddah. Jerry told him about the book and he went and bought one off the revs stand! He told Jerry that they could have sold hundreds of NGCs because they were, in his opinion, one of the finest machines ever made by ERF but that the B series were being pushed hard.
Jerry also mentioned the NGC in the picture below, which he now thinks is fleet no 124 which was had 335 with a 9 speed fuller and which came second hand. Apparently, Jerry’s dad had picked it up from Harwich along with 126 so he reckons they probably both came from Holland (rather than 124 coming from France as previously thought). Jerry recalls that 124 had a bar round the battery box so it may at sometime been used on ADR work. Robert
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Jerry - who was that ERF guy
As I remember the only people we ever saw from ERF were. Derek Bill and Bob Chadwick!!!
When was that picture taken? It looks
I’ve me in the foreground with my back to the camera??
Ken Broster
Kenb:
robert1952:
Here is the latest news on ERF NGCs!Jerry Cooke contacted me this weekend and said that he went to Sandbach show earlier in April and while he was there he spoke to one of ERFs service engineers who used to go out to Trans Arabia in Jeddah. Jerry told him about the book and he went and bought one off the revs stand! He told Jerry that they could have sold hundreds of NGCs because they were, in his opinion, one of the finest machines ever made by ERF but that the B series were being pushed hard.
Jerry also mentioned the NGC in the picture below, which he now thinks is fleet no 124 which was had 335 with a 9 speed fuller and which came second hand. Apparently, Jerry’s dad had picked it up from Harwich along with 126 so he reckons they probably both came from Holland (rather than 124 coming from France as previously thought). Jerry recalls that 124 had a bar round the battery box so it may at sometime been used on ADR work. Robert
Jerry - who was that ERF guy
As I remember the only people we ever saw from ERF were. Derek Bill and Bob Chadwick!!!
When was that picture taken? It looks
I’ve me in the foreground with my back to the camera??Ken Broster
Ken, the lorries had just been collected from the port in Jeddah in late 1979, according to an article by Cookie in an old REVS magazine. Here is the full picture. Robert
With regard to the register, in the light of new info, three things emerge for TA 124, as follows:
- This is the only photo in which we have yet identified TA 124 (ie, we now have a picture of it at last!)
- We now know that it had a 9-speed box and not a 13-speed one as per the registers
- We can can replace ex-France with ex-Holland
Robert
Then possibly the other NGC from Cees Groenenboom (06-09-TB) did his final life in the sun.
Moreover the first also had a 9-speed.
ERF-Continental:
Than possibly the other NGC from Cees Groenenboom (06-09-TB) did his final life in the sun.
Moreover the first also had a 9-speed.
Good thinking, Batman! Robert
The NGC from Schaap - Rotterdam was operational with hazardous materials! The thick plottens
ERF-Continental:
The NGC from Schaap - Rotterdam was operational with hazardous materials! The thick plottens
Maybe the Schaap one was 124 then. It had a red plastic sun-visor too. In the book I mentioned that Schaap may have become 126, but now that we know there were two ex-Dutchmen with red visors we can choose! And choose according to the battery guard… Robert
Right! Now we have a slight dislocation in our communications here! The new information that Jerry Cooke gave about TA 124 remains the same but the PICTURE is different. I’ve just had a call from Jerry to say that when he said the picture of a 7MW next to a 5MW, he did not mean this one:
He DID mean this one:
So it is this bottom picture that contains our first identifiable glimpse of TA 124!! Sorry for the misunderstanding. Robert 
@ Ken: Jerry tells me that the chap he met (and spoke highly of the NGC) at Sandbach was Bill Fitz-Simmonds who was an ERF engineer, and not on the sales staff. Robert
Lo and behold: another gift of art from Benkku! Robert
hiya that dutch lorry with the blanked out grill looks better than standard…the paint is,nt just right though.
maybe that would have given the lorry a better chance NOT looking like a Scaina rip off.
John
3300John:
hiya that dutch lorry with the blanked out grill looks better than standard…the paint is,nt just right though.
maybe that would have given the lorry a better chance NOT looking like a Scaina rip off.
John
Good point John. This one was bought in '74 and was stilling running in '86 with well over 1.3 million kms on the clock. There are quite a few pictures of it on this thread. Robert
Has anyone checked to see if any ERFs feature in a Dutch truck book by Peter & Ronald van der Meer called Trucks - 40 jaar wegtransport in Nederland / druk 1? I saw the book newly advertised on the Toprun site and it made me wonder. Robert
Hiya…seen it before Robert just never said before what i was thinking…with a little tweking here and there
it would look really good.
john
Good afternoon! Has anyone got a clearer scan of this advert? Or has anyone got an original advert they can make a better scan of? I wanted to use it in the book but the definition is too poor on this scan. I’d really like to include it in my the new book I’m writing so I’d be grateful for a version that shows the writing up more clearly. Cheers! Robert
My heartfelt thanks goes to Bennku (BMA), our resident TNUK truck artist in Finland who has created this fabulous ERF NGC picture . I feel most honoured to receive a dedicated drawing on this forum. Quite made my day! Robert
PS I wouldn’t mind using the picture in my next book! What about it, Bennku? Robert