Always used to hear driver complain about them don’t hear or even see much of them now, come to think of it dont’ think i’ve seen any over here, I know mates of mine in the past have walked out of places because they had fodens, and the ERF’s more comenly remembered as European Road Failiures, i think ERF are the MAN cab nowadays but still don’t hear much of them, all Dafs, Scanias and Volvos oh and the odd Iveco ( where on earth did they come up with that name Iveco)
Iveco… a load of rubbish.
sankev13:
Always used to hear driver complain about them don’t hear or even see much of them now, come to think of it dont’ think i’ve seen any over here, I know mates of mine in the past have walked out of places because they had fodens, and the ERF’s more comenly remembered as European Road Failiures, i think ERF are the MAN cab nowadays but still don’t hear much of them, all Dafs, Scanias and Volvos oh and the odd Iveco ( where on earth did they come up with that name Iveco)
This will start dotty off again,
IVECO = Industrial Vehicle Corporation. comprised of UNIC Fiat Magirus Deutz and eventually Ford
Wheel Nut:
This will start dotty off again,IVECO = Industrial Vehicle Corporation. comprised of UNIC Fiat Magirus Deutz and eventually Ford
Or more commonly known as It Vibrates Everything Comes Off
DAF95XF:
Wheel Nut:
This will start dotty off again,IVECO = Industrial Vehicle Corporation. comprised of UNIC Fiat Magirus Deutz and eventually Ford
Or more commonly known as It Vibrates Everything Comes Off
I know what ya mean drove a bloody rigid thingy the boss at one of my jobs bought, after driving was still spilling my tea half hr after I got out of it, gearbox like stirring a bucket of broken bricks, and turning circle of one of them super tanker boaty things also went like ■■■ off a deep shag pile carpet, kept checking the hand brake wasn’t on every time an old biddy on one of them carriages passsed me
you still some good examples running up and down the road yet though
I dont know if they were hated, think they were just very slow in getting there act together when the scandinavian/euro thrucks came along and upped the game. I also dont think that the EC series was that bad a cab, the olimpic was much bigger than anything Scania offered at the time.
Also theres another thread on here where two individuals have been talking about a Daf ss/cab with a Scania V8, Volvo i shift and a bit of debate about which chassis/running gear to use, ERF/Foden provided that option to spec which engine/gearbox/axle you wanted, and i think if you got the mix right you could end up with a good motor.
I have owned scania sed atky volvo , daf ,erf, by far the best was the erf ■■■■■■■ 325 12 speed twin split, best on fuel best payload and comfort and above all trouble free.The worst ones were scania over rated I would not have another , two was enough for me, the daf was good also
sankev13:
i think ERF are the MAN cab nowadays but still don’t hear much of them,
Unless I’m mistaken, the last registered ERF’s with the TGA cab in this country, were on 56 plates, which is about 3 1/2 years ago. MAN scrapped the brand name within 5 years of taking it on, but personally, I couldn’t see what they wanted with a small UK builder that was hardly a threat to a global company like MAN.
Say what you like about the likes of Foden/ERF/Leyland etc, but 40 years ago, that’s all you saw on UK roads, and despite their knockers, if you pardon the expression, there are still plenty of the old girls around at that age, which is more than you can say for others. I think it’s unlikely you’ll see a MAN/Volvo/Scania etc, still plodding on 40 years after it was built in the numbers that you see the British built trucks.
Ken.
NB12:
ERF/Foden provided that option to spec which engine/gearbox/axle you wanted,
I used to go into the ERF Sun Works at Sandbach with ■■■■■■■ parts, and I got talking to the storeman one day about the quantity of engines and makes they used, and he told me that they used to fit 95% ■■■■■■■■ 3% Perkins and 1% Gardner.
Don’t know what the ratio was up the road at Foden though.
Ken.
I would more than happily go up the road tomorrow in my old ERF E10, with the 325 ■■■■■■■ and “that gearbox” of all the trucks I ever had, including the T cabs and double drive torque converter DAFs that is the one that I always felt most at home in and knew how to handle
Still hated ? I never have and never will
I used to go in on the agency to Sainsbury’s in Droitwich where they had a load of ancient J reg EC10s and 11s - Brown plastic trim and very basic. They had kept them on well past their sell by date because they had generators fitted to run the fridges.
When they finally sold them off I asked who on earth would buy them. The answer was that the fairground people would snap them up. “Why?” I asked.
“Basically,” he said. “Because they are indestructible - Plastic cabs don’t rot and that gearbox was ideal for showman’s work.” They don’t drive that far so the trim was unimportant, and there were plenty of spares around to keep them running.”
ive seen drivers jump out of the cabs when they see an eaton…
erf/foden weve all whinged that much theve gone…
would have one tomorrow a proper truck from the 80’s will do
older hands would probably want a 60’s and i dont blame them…
rikki would that be the gearbox with a thousand nutreals, the much loved eaton twinsplitter, best gearbox ever made
I have been fortunate enough to have 2 14ltr ■■■■■■■ powered, twin split British built trucks.
My first was my trusty old ERF EC14 which I wrecked in a huge accident in 2000, and the other was my not so liked Sed Atki Strato, (The Pegaso cab variety.)
Both whistled beautifully when revved from the turbo, and although not the fastest, nor the prettiest, they certainly never missed a beat.
Ken.
scotstrucker:
rikki would that be the gearbox with a thousand nutreals, the much loved eaton twinsplitter, best gearbox ever made
It would… once I learnt to make it sing, I canot fault it in any way, the learning part however wasnt easy (much grinding of gears and teeth)
Well I didn’t hate them, spent virtually all of my driving and fitting days with Foden starting with the S50 halfcab’s up to the pre Alpha models. Well made, and as someone said earlier you could chose your own engine and driveline to suit your requirements. If you had a Foden 12 speed gearbox, once you mastered it, you had a gear for every road and off road condition imaginable, the later Fuller boxes were good as well and pretty reliable and would p*** all over anything with a syncromesh gearbox. It was driver comfort that let them down really, i have to admit that you knew that you had done a days work in them whereas the continental trucks were probably as easy to drive as the average car! Never broke down in a Foden though, apart from punctures, and always managed to get the lorry back to base even with no clutch on occasions!
Pete.
Quinny the twin spilit in the ERF was in every way superior to the Stratos… ERF used rods where Seddon used cables, this gave the ERF a firmer feel to the change, If ERF had taken the 95 series cab and kept the ■■■■■■■ and rod set up for the eaton they would have had a world beater, but hindsight is a wonderful thing… ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ three unbeatable combinations at the time
You’re right Rikki, and I know the cables on the Strato had a habit of seizing up.
Ken.
I didn’t realise the Strato used cables, although I know the Foden did.
On the Sudden Accident predecessor the gear stick stayed with the cab when tilted and slotted into a cup when the cab was lowered