ERF A, B & C series

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Not really struggling on the general timeframe but when was this ERF produced/offered?
I recently discovered the attached photocopy but research is not very clear…

Especially for 3300John the Ensor ERF A-series with Hulo-device…1971-1972

A nice new B-series unit for S Jones. Robert

Herewith the cover of an A-series Driver’s Handbook from 1972. It belonged to Hayes Roadways Ltd and
its driver Trevor Norris

ERF-Continental:
Especially for 3300John the Ensor ERF A-series with Hulo-device…1971-1972

Hiya and thanks ERF-Continental,yes i worked out of Ensor(there was an Ensor motors in Stoke on Trent)(Mercedes lorry agents) Ensor brick
and block started to have Merc,s when the ERF,s was done for.at Harrisons we had an ex Ensor A series cab the ■■■■■■■ engine had given up completly
thanks for the photo,
John

Hiya,that 44 ton ERF went to the scotish commercial show. the lorry was painted bark blue with a red chassis and the cab roof was white.
the lorry was all lettered up in a customers name hoping they would buy the lorry in there livery…it didn,t happen. i think the cab was taken
off saved and put onto the the next chassis ordered by that customer, and a new cab fitted onto the 44 tonner
john

COUPLE OF ERFS

3300John:
Hiya,that 44 ton ERF went to the scotish commercial show. the lorry was painted bark blue with a red chassis and the cab roof was white.
the lorry was all lettered up in a customers name hoping they would buy the lorry in there livery…it didn,t happen. i think the cab was taken
off saved and put onto the the next chassis ordered by that customer, and a new cab fitted onto the 44 tonner
john

Thank you John for your info! Do you know what year that was on the Scottisch Show?

ERF-Continental:

3300John:
Hiya,that 44 ton ERF went to the scotish commercial show. the lorry was painted bark blue with a red chassis and the cab roof was white.
the lorry was all lettered up in a customers name hoping they would buy the lorry in there livery…it didn,t happen. i think the cab was taken
off saved and put onto the the next chassis ordered by that customer, and a new cab fitted onto the 44 tonner
john

Thank you John for your info! Do you know what year that was on the Scottisch Show?

Hiya ERF continental…pretty certain it was 1970…Elgin hall Glasgow
John

ERF-Continental:
Herewith the cover of an A-series Driver’s Handbook from 1972. It belonged to Hayes Roadways Ltd and
its driver Trevor Norris

Are you sure that’s A-series, A-J? The picture looks like an 8-wheeler and the A-series was a 2-axle / 3-axle tractive unit only as far as I know. :wink: Someone shout at me if I’m wrong! :slight_smile: Meanwhile, I’ll post a nice 8-wheeler advert on the ERF Beauties thread. Robert

In the back the data are written…

Found a ERF driver’s book on the A-series, which belonged to Hayes Roadways Ltd with driver Trevor Norris.
The chassis was #25082 bought 21st May 1973 type LAG160 011 with Gardner 6LW #188224 and registration
was LFD273L. Wheelbase was 22’ 6" and VGW 16 tons

ERF-Continental:
In the back the data are written…

Found a ERF driver’s book on the A-series, which belonged to Hayes Roadways Ltd with driver Trevor Norris.
The chassis was #25082 bought 21st May 1973 type LAG160 011 with Gardner 6LW #188224 and registration
was LFD273L. Wheelbase was 22’ 6" and VGW 16 tons

think that lorry was on the London brick job.i also think theres a misprint it was a 28 tonner…AM Walkers had the same wilcox bodies.
Walkers loaded coal into the brickworks and loaded out with bricks…the top section of the sides stayed in place while the lower section
opened to load the bricks…maybe this hayes did the same work was the lorry blue■■?
John

John, I have no idea…I found this driver’s handbook and in the back the relevant data are filled in.

I still assume it is a A-series…I will later scan some brochure-cover on eight and six wheelers though

ERF-Continental:
In the back the data are written…

Found a ERF driver’s book on the A-series, which belonged to Hayes Roadways Ltd with driver Trevor Norris.
The chassis was #25082 bought 21st May 1973 type LAG160 011 with Gardner 6LW #188224 and registration
was LFD273L. Wheelbase was 22’ 6" and VGW 16 tons

According to the ‘ERF’ coding system I think that makes it a Gardner-engined 2-axle rigid 16-tonner with a set-back axle / 7LV cab and a basic load carrier (probably flat-bed) with a longish wheelbase. The trouble is that most people here refer to anything with a 7LV cab as an ‘A-series’, when in fact the rigids continued to use the older design from pre A-series days. I’m sure you’ll get to the bottom of it! :smiley: Robert

Robert: “your” A-series as a 4x2 tractor was introduced in 1970 Earls Court, we are now speaking of 1973
and I (still) assume somehow the chassis belonged to the A-series…I’ll come back with other wheelers

ERF-Continental:
Robert: “your” A-series as a 4x2 tractor was introduced in 1970 Earls Court, we are now speaking of 1973
and I (still) assume somehow the chassis belonged to the A-series…I’ll come back with other wheelers

If it’s any help I discussed this with ‘ERF’ a while back. The A-series chassis trucks (tractor units) entered volume production in April 1972, well over a year after the initial launch of the cab and chassis, by which time the new style cabs had appeared all over the country on the previous design chassis (which we started calling LVs for convenience, even though LV really referred to the cab). It was not until the A’ series tractor units became commonplace that people started to refer to all the LV cabs with the big grille and 7" headlamps as A’ Series.

An excellent and detailed article by Peter Davies in TRUCKING INTERNATIONAL magazine (February 1998, pages 78-81) includes this observation:

In reality there were no A-series eight-wheelers - the A-series designation referred to the new chasis engineering and was confined to tractor units and long wheel-base two-axle trucks designed specifically for draw-bar use.

So if your example has a draw-bar coupling and is rated for draw-bar work, then it might indeed be an A-series! :smiley: Robert

Hiya…if you study the brochure photo you can see 4 sets of wheels. iam sorry its a 28 ton 8 legger. i also think its an AM Walker lorry that
was operating around Leicester and Peterborough area…somewhere paperwork has been mixed up. maybe a cab has been changed but if it
was a twin steer ridgid it would be 22 tons… Robert is correct with the cab identification. people thought if you had the big grill 7 inch head
lights and a set back axle you,d got and A series…NO you,d got a 7lv cab…Parks potatoes had a 7lv cab on a 54G 4 wheeler tapered chassis that
a KV cab on as new.

John

I promissed to scan some covers of brochures, all with new “A-series”-cab, hence 1973-1976

Hiya,ERF continental…you have one A series their,the Ensor lorry…the Ensor lorry and the Federated are both 7LV cabs
the Knowles is a 8LV cab (forward control)the robinson looks like a 8LV but i,am not certain.i can,t see if its set back axle or not.
it was the chassis not the cab what carried the A series name. hope this helps a little
cheers John

ps i only know the federated is a 7LV because i know the lorry we carried there work on return loads and most 4 wheelers was set
back axle.