Is it true the police will be now nicking both drivers who fail to let the over taking truck pass.
The one who over takes and the one that refuses to take the foot of the gas or knock the limiter off for 3 seconds.
We are not talking of a swift overtake,it is the ones that go on for miles with a 100 cars behind waiting to offer a free brake test.
The road to Felixstowe is bad for elephant racing.
How much is the fine and how many points or is it Mmtm or Rdc bull manure.?
That’s always been the case & rightly so although I would say it’s the chap doing the overtaking that would get the ticket if there was a copper stuck behind him for ten minutes.
This doesn’t explain what the copper would do if the driver in the second lane has moved over to let someone come down the slip road, then said pillock holds him out there, he cannot just drop back in because there is a long line of traffic led by a police car 10 feet off his arse. 
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This doesn’t explain what the copper would do if the driver in the second lane has moved over to let someone come down the slip road, then said pillock holds him out there, he cannot just drop back in because there is a long line of traffic led by a police car 10 feet off his arse.
One reason I very rarely move over to let anyone in. I might move over for a fellow lorry driver, but I’d prefer to slow a little and let him in front of me rather than move over. Car drivers can find their own way in.
Think you will find it says in the Lgv high way code "if your been over taken by a vehicle of similar speed to slow down and let them pass " this keeping the other vehicle sat out in the outer lane is a European thing that’s been adopted by the newer Brit drivers ,me personally will always let over taking vehicles in because they are going to pass you sooner or later so why delay it like a twot …
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Wheel Nut:
This doesn’t explain what the copper would do if the driver in the second lane has moved over to let someone come down the slip road, then said pillock holds him out there, he cannot just drop back in because there is a long line of traffic led by a police car 10 feet off his arse.One reason I very rarely move over to let anyone in. I might move over for a fellow lorry driver, but I’d prefer to slow a little and let him in front of me rather than move over. Car drivers can find their own way in.
Me neither, but I have had these angry ■■■■ then coming past giving me the coffee bean, what people fail to understand is the dotted white line means Give Way, but in reality it means judge your own speed before you reach the point of no return. There was once an “experienced” driving instructor on these forums who advocated stopping at the dotted white line 
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Think you will find it says in the Lgv high way code "if your been over taken by a vehicle of similar speed to slow down and let them pass " this keeping the other vehicle sat out in the outer lane is a European thing that’s been adopted by the newer Brit drivers ,me personally will always let over taking vehicles in because they are going to pass you sooner or later so why delay it like a twot …
I agree. I always slow down a bit (assuming there’s nothing right up my chuff) and let the overtaking truck go. As often as not, I need to slow down to get my braking distance back once he pulls in anyway, so why not just slow down a bit earlier and let him go?
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Wheel Nut:
This doesn’t explain what the copper would do if the driver in the second lane has moved over to let someone come down the slip road, then said pillock holds him out there, he cannot just drop back in because there is a long line of traffic led by a police car 10 feet off his arse.One reason I very rarely move over to let anyone in. I might move over for a fellow lorry driver, but I’d prefer to slow a little and let him in front of me rather than move over. Car drivers can find their own way in.
Agreed but I now tend not to move over for lorries either because at least the car will sod off, the Lorry driver will just sit at 56 and then your buggered.
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Think you will find it says in the Lgv high way code "if your been over taken by a vehicle of similar speed to slow down and let them pass " this keeping the other vehicle sat out in the outer lane is a European thing that’s been adopted by the newer Brit drivers ,me personally will always let over taking vehicles in because they are going to pass you sooner or later so why delay it like a twot …I agree. I always slow down a bit (assuming there’s nothing right up my chuff) and let the overtaking truck go. As often as not, I need to slow down to get my braking distance back once he pulls in anyway, so why not just slow down a bit earlier and let him go?
If your in a 44 tonne truck, who the hell are you gonna bother if you back off a bit to let some one pass you, I don’t see what difference it makes, even if there is some one up your chuff!!
I hit the exhaust brake for a couple of seconds, that way it keeps me safe and the roads moving.
M40 is one of the worst for long overtakes as most are travelling Brum to London
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Think you will find it says in the Lgv high way code "if your been over taken by a vehicle of similar speed to slow down and let them pass " this keeping the other vehicle sat out in the outer lane is a European thing that’s been adopted by the newer Brit drivers ,me personally will always let over taking vehicles in because they are going to pass you sooner or later so why delay it like a twot …I agree. I always slow down a bit (assuming there’s nothing right up my chuff) and let the overtaking truck go. As often as not, I need to slow down to get my braking distance back once he pulls in anyway, so why not just slow down a bit earlier and let him go?
If your in a 44 tonne truck, who the hell are you gonna bother if you back off a bit to let some one pass you, I don’t see what difference it makes, even if there is some one up your chuff!!
I don’t really want another 44 tonne truck climbing into my trailer. I know he shouldn’t be driving that close, but it doesn’t seem fair to tap the exhaust brake to let someone go if there is someone right behind me. In fairness, in the dead of night it doesn’t make a right lot of difference if someone sits alongside me for miles and miles either! But I prefer to let people go if I can do it safely.
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I hit the exhaust brake for a couple of seconds, that way it keeps me safe and the roads moving.
Simple isn’t it. Quick squirt of the retarder and away they go and your stopping distance is in tact. On the Actros doing this doesn’t even knock cruise off so it immediately accelerates back up to speed.
Wish everyone did the same.
If it is true that fines and points are being enforced then there is one way of avoiding them, and it simultaneously lowers your stress levels too. If your truck’s speed is limited to 90kph and you normally set your cruise control at this speed, then try setting your speed limiter or cruise control 2kph below that. When you do find yourself passing a marginally slower truck you can deactivate your cruise control or speed limiter and pass much quicker. You will be highly unlikely to receive points and a fine for this. You will lose about a minute an hour, and this is not really noticed over an entire shift.
To digress from fines and points aspect, and to focus on the stress side of this, an even more relaxing way of driving is to set your speed limiter or cruise control to 85kph. You’ll lose about 2 minutes per hour, but the problem of elephant overtaking is completely eliminated - overtaking itself is virtually eliminated. Yes your shift is slightly longer, but it is not that noticeable and I think it is a cost worth bearing.
85 kph is flat out for our Volvos !!
Knock it down to 84 then. You won’t notice the difference until you need to pass somebody.
The only people this cannot apply to is those already limited to 50mph. To go under that is probably unnecessary and dangerous. But for the vast majority of us it is perfectly feasible to knock 1 or 2 kph off and consequently eliminate elephant overtaking.
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Think you will find it says in the Lgv high way code "if your been over taken by a vehicle of similar speed to slow down and let them pass " this keeping the other vehicle sat out in the outer lane is a European thing that’s been adopted by the newer Brit drivers ,me personally will always let over taking vehicles in because they are going to pass you sooner or later so why delay it like a twot …I agree. I always slow down a bit (assuming there’s nothing right up my chuff) and let the overtaking truck go. As often as not, I need to slow down to get my braking distance back once he pulls in anyway, so why not just slow down a bit earlier and let him go?
If your in a 44 tonne truck, who the hell are you gonna bother if you back off a bit to let some one pass you, I don’t see what difference it makes, even if there is some one up your chuff!!
I don’t really want another 44 tonne truck climbing into my trailer. I know he shouldn’t be driving that close, but it doesn’t seem fair to tap the exhaust brake to let someone go if there is someone right behind me.
That is one of the most rediculous statements i have read on here for a while! Who’s driving your truck, you or the idiot behind you?
Your just putting yourself in a more dangerous position than you are already in!
ezydriver:
If it is true that fines and points are being enforced then there is one way of avoiding them, and it simultaneously lowers your stress levels too. If your truck’s speed is limited to 90kph and you normally set your cruise control at this speed, then try setting your speed limiter or cruise control 2kph below that. When you do find yourself passing a marginally slower truck you can deactivate your cruise control or speed limiter and pass much quicker. You will be highly unlikely to receive points and a fine for this. You will lose about a minute an hour, and this is not really noticed over an entire shift.To digress from fines and points aspect, and to focus on the stress side of this, an even more relaxing way of driving is to set your speed limiter or cruise control to 85kph. You’ll lose about 2 minutes per hour, but the problem of elephant overtaking is completely eliminated - overtaking itself is virtually eliminated. Yes your shift is slightly longer, but it is not that noticeable and I think it is a cost worth bearing.
Very well said. That should bring an end to the horrendous practice of sitting within inches of the truck in front waiting for that moment to pull out into lane two and sit there for 5 miles. That in turn will make it a lot safer for all us drivers. Meaning we all get to go home to our families at the end of the day/week.
And yes it is true, you can get done for inconsiderate driving. 3 points and £100 fine at the roadside.
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4aaaa4dd:
Think you will find it says in the Lgv high way code "if your been over taken by a vehicle of similar speed to slow down and let them pass " this keeping the other vehicle sat out in the outer lane is a European thing that’s been adopted by the newer Brit drivers ,me personally will always let over taking vehicles in because they are going to pass you sooner or later so why delay it like a twot …I agree. I always slow down a bit (assuming there’s nothing right up my chuff) and let the overtaking truck go. As often as not, I need to slow down to get my braking distance back once he pulls in anyway, so why not just slow down a bit earlier and let him go?
If your in a 44 tonne truck, who the hell are you gonna bother if you back off a bit to let some one pass you, I don’t see what difference it makes, even if there is some one up your chuff!!
I don’t really want another 44 tonne truck climbing into my trailer. I know he shouldn’t be driving that close, but it doesn’t seem fair to tap the exhaust brake to let someone go if there is someone right behind me.
That is one of the most rediculous statements i have read on here for a while! Who’s driving your truck, you or the idiot behind you?
Your just putting yourself in a more dangerous position than you are already in!
I think you might have misunderstood my post … I still maintain my braking distance, I just don’t slow down to do it, not if there’s someone right on my back bumper. Like I said, I know he shouldn’t be that close, but I don’t really want anyone running into the back of me, even if it would technically be their fault.
The new laws allow cops to give a FPN for inconsiderate driving etc so if they see two trucks side by side for a long time then they can issue a FPN to the one being overtaken if that truck is the only reason the one overtaking cannot progress and return to the left allowing those behind to use that lane
As for being tailgated - if unable to safely get out of the way then leave more room in front to control both your own vehicle and the one behind - a driver cannot control space behind but they can control speed and space in front so take control of what is possible to do so
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4aaaa4dd:
Think you will find it says in the Lgv high way code "if your been over taken by a vehicle of similar speed to slow down and let them pass " this keeping the other vehicle sat out in the outer lane is a European thing that’s been adopted by the newer Brit drivers ,me personally will always let over taking vehicles in because they are going to pass you sooner or later so why delay it like a twot …I agree. I always slow down a bit (assuming there’s nothing right up my chuff) and let the overtaking truck go. As often as not, I need to slow down to get my braking distance back once he pulls in anyway, so why not just slow down a bit earlier and let him go?
If your in a 44 tonne truck, who the hell are you gonna bother if you back off a bit to let some one pass you, I don’t see what difference it makes, even if there is some one up your chuff!!
I don’t really want another 44 tonne truck climbing into my trailer. I know he shouldn’t be driving that close, but it doesn’t seem fair to tap the exhaust brake to let someone go if there is someone right behind me.
That is one of the most rediculous statements i have read on here for a while! Who’s driving your truck, you or the idiot behind you?
Your just putting yourself in a more dangerous position than you are already in!I think you might have misunderstood my post … I still maintain my braking distance, I just don’t slow down to do it, not if there’s someone right on my back bumper. Like I said, I know he shouldn’t be that close, but I don’t really want anyone running into the back of me, even if it would technically be their fault.
the reason i’m reluctant to back off when trucks are relatively close behind, is then the next one pops her out and starts the big overtake and so on. i’m not worried about someone running into the back of me as i don’t brake check it down a couple of k’s!!