Most places nowadays want drivers who do it right the 1st time, they don’t want to be reminding drivers of things that they consider to be standard procedure. I take your point about maybe they could have a quiet word about what they want, but there’s loads of drivers looking for jobs, so most companies can afford to be choosy in who they employ, just the way things are.
I failed my first assessment at said company in april and was told me to get 3 month more experiance and practice (in my case the 3 month practice indeed makes perfect, for the assessment anyhow) so kept ny head down then did it all again start with them tommorow night i wont be doin any braggin of the sort,no matter how much il be earning as a greenie il be grateful i got a job,just take on board what the assessor says and reapply after 3 month, not saying it will work with everybody but as a newbie i will listen to what the experianced and seasoned drivers say,but these guys cant be earning that on days lol
waynedl:
Blunder Man:
First time I have seen that, advertising jobs at GOOLE, trouble is you have to get past the assessor’s at Goole, who are stupid and are notorious for failing people for silly things, I failed for not turning the collar on red suzy a quarter of a turn, another lad failed for not tugging hard enough after hooking up.They’re not silly things
+1
I turn the collar 180 degs… 
worksopboy:
I failed my first assessment at said company in april and was told me to get 3 month more experiance and practice (in my case the 3 month practice indeed makes perfect, for the assessment anyhow) so kept ny head down then did it all again start with them tommorow night i wont be doin any braggin of the sort,no matter how much il be earning as a greenie il be grateful i got a job,just take on board what the assessor says and reapply after 3 month, not saying it will work with everybody but as a newbie i will listen to what the experianced and seasoned drivers say,but these guys cant be earning that on days lol
Well done and good luck with your new job, glad things have worked out for you.
I’ve got nothing against stobarts, just another company at the end of the day. I was having a friendly chat with one of the drivers and then his mate walked in and then the ■■■■■■■■ started flowing, lost interest after that. They had virtually cornered the driver they were talking too, he only asked a question about their scanias, that was it, he got a lot more than he bargained for 
Blunder Man:
waynedl:
If the collars weren’t designed to be twisted around to un-align the pin / groove, they wouldn’t have been designed that way.
Now, the fact they made it so you could do that, there must be a reason for it, so do itOh, and yes it’s possible to have the red airline ‘just fly off’ and if you’ve not done the tug test properly, then you shouldn’t bother doing it, coupling and uncoupling isn’t rocket science, and if you can’t do it properly that 1 time when you’re on assessment, I can’t blame him for not putting you further in the company to getting a job to be honest.
I was that annoyed wayne I spoke to the supervisor at Grimsby Scania, he assured me that if you put the Suzy on correctly in the first place IT COULD not UNCOUPLE as it could not overcome the air pressure.
When you are giving the unit a tug, how hard is not hard enough?
And as to you perfect never get anything wrong lot, I bow in awe.
I’d take a small wager he wouldn’t put that in writing and sign his name to it though…
Of course it can come off…things fail and go wrong. If nothing ever went wrong on vehicles there would be no breakdown businesses, garages, parts places…there wouldn’t be a Scania garage in Grimsby 'cos they wouldn’t be needed. Don’t be naive!
waynedl:
Blunder Man:
happy sack:
Comedy topic. Create a thread about jobs being advertised in a,.shock horror, job centre. Then tell everyone how you failed the assessment at said company. And then slag anyone who dares to suggest the reasons you failed were valid. Maybe you failed because you are monkey brained?I was merely suggesting, forgive me, that perhaps they were a bit too keen to fail people, and that perhaps a whisper in someones ear would be perhaps a less expensive and more productive way forward, they could retest after a month for instance, the law allows employers to dispense with your services for up to 13 weeks without comeback.
If you look back I did not start the abuse, but people who cause hundreds of pound worth of damage to trailers and then slag me?
As for conor he is a waste of space.
Monkey Brains, perhaps so, been called worse.
If you’re referring to me there, then you’re even more thick than I thought, the suzi’s are on the unit, NOT the trailer, no wonder you struggle to couple up
Trailer Truck, potato potatoe, A lot of places I have worked you would have been down the road, and quite rightly so, it will have cost a lot of money.
worksopboy:
I failed my first assessment at said company in april and was told me to get 3 month more experiance and practice (in my case the 3 month practice indeed makes perfect, for the assessment anyhow) so kept ny head down then did it all again start with them tommorow night i wont be doin any braggin of the sort,no matter how much il be earning as a greenie il be grateful i got a job,just take on board what the assessor says and reapply after 3 month, not saying it will work with everybody but as a newbie i will listen to what the experianced and seasoned drivers say,but these guys cant be earning that on days lol
It used to be 6 months for a retest, so thats interesting, I wish you all the best, good luck.
Blunder Man:
waynedl:
Blunder Man:
happy sack:
Comedy topic. Create a thread about jobs being advertised in a,.shock horror, job centre. Then tell everyone how you failed the assessment at said company. And then slag anyone who dares to suggest the reasons you failed were valid. Maybe you failed because you are monkey brained?I was merely suggesting, forgive me, that perhaps they were a bit too keen to fail people, and that perhaps a whisper in someones ear would be perhaps a less expensive and more productive way forward, they could retest after a month for instance, the law allows employers to dispense with your services for up to 13 weeks without comeback.
If you look back I did not start the abuse, but people who cause hundreds of pound worth of damage to trailers and then slag me?
As for conor he is a waste of space.
Monkey Brains, perhaps so, been called worse.
If you’re referring to me there, then you’re even more thick than I thought, the suzi’s are on the unit, NOT the trailer, no wonder you struggle to couple up
Trailer Truck, potato potatoe, A lot of places I have worked you would have been down the road, and quite rightly so, it will have cost a lot of money.
As I said, I don’t claim to be perfect. I made a mistake, in a yard, got distracted and forgot to release the suzi’s during an uncouple procedure, didn’t drop trailer on it’s knees or anything, so yes a daft thing to do, yes it cost money to repair - not as much as you’re making out though tbh. To the public, they’re around 10 - 15 quid each, and there’s 2 of them.
What you did was risk a trailer coming off or at least the brakes coming on, on the public road, causing god knows how much damage and havoc, and then try to defend it as ok?
At least I know I ■■■■■■ up and learnt from it, you’re just an idiot and seems like you always will be one 
Truculent:
Blunder Man:
wayne:
If the collars weren’t designed to be twisted around to un-align the pin / groove, they wouldn’t have been designed that way.
Now, the fact they made it so you could do that, there must be a reason for it, so do itOh, and yes it’s possible to have the red airline ‘just fly off’ and if you’ve not done the tug test properly, then you shouldn’t bother doing it, coupling and uncoupling isn’t rocket science, and if you can’t do it properly that 1 time when you’re on assessment, I can’t blame him for not putting you further in the company to getting a job to be honest.
I was that annoyed wayne I spoke to the supervisor at Grimsby Scania, he assured me that if you put the Suzy on correctly in the first place IT COULD not UNCOUPLE as it could not overcome the air pressure.
When you are giving the unit a tug, how hard is not hard enough?
And as to you perfect never get anything wrong lot, I bow in awe.
I’d take a small wager he wouldn’t put that in writing and sign his name to it though…
Of course it can come off…things fail and go wrong. If nothing ever went wrong on vehicles there would be no breakdown businesses, garages, parts places…there wouldn’t be a Scania garage in Grimsby 'cos they wouldn’t be needed. Don’t be naive!
I will take a the word of a man with over 30 years experience as a fitter over yours if you forgive me, I know things can go wrong that’s sod’s law I specifically state that it CANNOT uncouple itself, if you can demonstrate one doing so, and I will come anywhere in the country to see it I will give £500 to a charity of your choice. I will couple the unit and trailer up like I did for ES, and you are to make it undo without touching it.
waynedl:
Blunder Man:
waynedl:
Blunder Man:
happy sack:
Comedy topic. Create a thread about jobs being advertised in a,.shock horror, job centre. Then tell everyone how you failed the assessment at said company. And then slag anyone who dares to suggest the reasons you failed were valid. Maybe you failed because you are monkey brained?I was merely suggesting, forgive me, that perhaps they were a bit too keen to fail people, and that perhaps a whisper in someones ear would be perhaps a less expensive and more productive way forward, they could retest after a month for instance, the law allows employers to dispense with your services for up to 13 weeks without comeback.
If you look back I did not start the abuse, but people who cause hundreds of pound worth of damage to trailers and then slag me?
As for conor he is a waste of space.
Monkey Brains, perhaps so, been called worse.
If you’re referring to me there, then you’re even more thick than I thought, the suzi’s are on the unit, NOT the trailer, no wonder you struggle to couple up
Trailer Truck, potato potatoe, A lot of places I have worked you would have been down the road, and quite rightly so, it will have cost a lot of money.
As I said, I don’t claim to be perfect. I made a mistake, in a yard, got distracted and forgot to release the suzi’s during an uncouple procedure, didn’t drop trailer on it’s knees or anything, so yes a daft thing to do, yes it cost money to repair - not as much as you’re making out though tbh. To the public, they’re around 10 - 15 quid each, and there’s 2 of them.
What you did was risk a trailer coming off or at least the brakes coming on, on the public road, causing god knows how much damage and havoc, and then try to defend it as ok?
At least I know I [zb] up and learnt from it, you’re just an idiot and seems like you always will be one
Idiots rip Suzys out, I never have.
The same bet applies to you, by the way the Scania man told me he got on average two red airlines breakdowns a month, no big problem he said they just stop.
Blunder Man:
Truculent:
Blunder Man:
wayne:
If the collars weren’t designed to be twisted around to un-align the pin / groove, they wouldn’t have been designed that way.
Now, the fact they made it so you could do that, there must be a reason for it, so do itOh, and yes it’s possible to have the red airline ‘just fly off’ and if you’ve not done the tug test properly, then you shouldn’t bother doing it, coupling and uncoupling isn’t rocket science, and if you can’t do it properly that 1 time when you’re on assessment, I can’t blame him for not putting you further in the company to getting a job to be honest.
I was that annoyed wayne I spoke to the supervisor at Grimsby Scania, he assured me that if you put the Suzy on correctly in the first place IT COULD not UNCOUPLE as it could not overcome the air pressure.
When you are giving the unit a tug, how hard is not hard enough?
And as to you perfect never get anything wrong lot, I bow in awe.
I’d take a small wager he wouldn’t put that in writing and sign his name to it though…
Of course it can come off…things fail and go wrong. If nothing ever went wrong on vehicles there would be no breakdown businesses, garages, parts places…there wouldn’t be a Scania garage in Grimsby 'cos they wouldn’t be needed. Don’t be naive!
I will take a the word of a man with over 30 years experience as a fitter over yours if you forgive me, I know things can go wrong that’s sod’s law I specifically state that it CANNOT uncouple itself, if you can demonstrate one doing so, and I will come anywhere in the country to see it I will give £500 to a charity of your choice. I will couple the unit and trailer up like I did for ES, and you are to make it undo without touching it.
But, this is why we have secondary systems in place
Blunder Man:
waynedl:
Blunder Man:
First time I have seen that, advertising jobs at GOOLE, trouble is you have to get past the assessor’s at Goole, who are stupid and are notorious for failing people for silly things, I failed for not turning the collar on red suzy a quarter of a turn, another lad failed for not tugging hard enough after hooking up.They’re not silly things
Yes they are, Had the assesor had any wit about him he would have just mentioned them, and the red Suzy collar thing IS NOT DANGEROUS, they cannot fly off.
er excuse me i had one fly off on me yrs ago had trl on 3 days,it happened on the e17 in belgium,still dont know why coupled up and got trl back ok then had coupling changed.Tell you what mate if one does blow on you its something you wont forget.
regards dave.
Because it was defective is the best explanation, and I assume as a professional driver you had turned the collar, which is the whole bloody point, IF YOU TURN THE COLLAR THE RED AIRLINE WONT FLY OFF , if the whole thing is defective of course it will!!! but if your Suzy is in good order, even if you don’t turn the collar it CANT, I have tried every which Way hitting with a stick kicking one etc they cannot accidentally undo.
My Bet Stands.
I am now bored with this, and will make no further comment.
Blunder Man:
Because it was defective is the best explanation, and I assume as a professional driver you had turned the collar, which is the whole bloody point, IF YOU TURN THE COLLAR THE RED AIRLINE WONT FLY OFF , if the whole thing is defective of course it will!!! but if your Suzy is in good order, even if you don’t turn the collar it CANT, I have tried every which Way hitting with a stick kicking one etc they cannot accidentally undo.My Bet Stands.
I am now bored with this, and will make no further comment.
Before you leave…
Can you please answer 1 simple question??
Why do you think the manufacturers made it so you could turn the collar?
waynedl:
Blunder Man:
Because it was defective is the best explanation, and I assume as a professional driver you had turned the collar, which is the whole bloody point, IF YOU TURN THE COLLAR THE RED AIRLINE WONT FLY OFF , if the whole thing is defective of course it will!!! but if your Suzy is in good order, even if you don’t turn the collar it CANT, I have tried every which Way hitting with a stick kicking one etc they cannot accidentally undo.My Bet Stands.
I am now bored with this, and will make no further comment.
Before you leave…
Can you please answer 1 simple question??
Why do you think the manufacturers made it so you could turn the collar?
exactly right mate,they dont put these things on for the fun of it,and as i posted earlier i had the trl on 3 days connected correctly,blunders got all the answers,anwser me that,why.
regards dave.
makes you wonder how ever we used t go on with palm couplings
Blunder Man:
Truculent:
Blunder Man:
wayne:
If the collars weren’t designed to be twisted around to un-align the pin / groove, they wouldn’t have been designed that way.
Now, the fact they made it so you could do that, there must be a reason for it, so do itOh, and yes it’s possible to have the red airline ‘just fly off’ and if you’ve not done the tug test properly, then you shouldn’t bother doing it, coupling and uncoupling isn’t rocket science, and if you can’t do it properly that 1 time when you’re on assessment, I can’t blame him for not putting you further in the company to getting a job to be honest.
I was that annoyed wayne I spoke to the supervisor at Grimsby Scania, he assured me that if you put the Suzy on correctly in the first place IT COULD not UNCOUPLE as it could not overcome the air pressure.
When you are giving the unit a tug, how hard is not hard enough?
And as to you perfect never get anything wrong lot, I bow in awe.
I’d take a small wager he wouldn’t put that in writing and sign his name to it though…
Of course it can come off…things fail and go wrong. If nothing ever went wrong on vehicles there would be no breakdown businesses, garages, parts places…there wouldn’t be a Scania garage in Grimsby 'cos they wouldn’t be needed. Don’t be naive!
I will take a the word of a man with over 30 years experience as a fitter over yours if you forgive me, I know things can go wrong that’s sod’s law I specifically state that it CANNOT uncouple itself, if you can demonstrate one doing so, and I will come anywhere in the country to see it I will give £500 to a charity of your choice. I will couple the unit and trailer up like I did for ES, and you are to make it undo without touching it.
I’d say the main job of the coller and pin is to confirm to you that the fittings are properly coupled.
I work on a farm and the new lad hadn’t got the hydraulic brake coupling on right (same setup as air just it didn’t have a pin or notch) when he pressed the brakes for the first time, they pressured up and shot the pipe off. If there had of been a pin and notch and he used it he would’ve known it wasn’t on right
the flying foden:
makes you wonder how ever we used t go on with palm couplings
Well, they used to come off all the time as well.
Harry Monk:
the flying foden:
makes you wonder how ever we used t go on with palm couplingsWell, they used to come off all the time as well.
And they got changed.
I do think they should’ve kept the taps though
Harry Monk:
the flying foden:
makes you wonder how ever we used t go on with palm couplingsWell, they used to come off all the time as well.
they did harry but thing was different in those days . 