DAF CF 56 plate it’s on all the time, garage suggested Ok to drive as is but I don’t have it in writing. Should I ignore and drive or demand repair? It’s not hooked up to trailer.
Is the symbol a tractor or trailer on the dash? Is it yellow or red? If it’s red, it will be making a non stop buzzing noise when you drive that will drive you crazy!
If it’s a red/yellow trailer symbol try turning the ABS lead around with the ignition off.
Assume that this is at the start of a day’s work from your home depot. No it is not alright to drive, the garage is either being lazy or has been leant on by management, who either just want the job done or don’t want the expense of repairing the vehicle. If they don’t know full well that you should not be leaving the site with the warning light on then the garage should not be repairing HGV and the transport management are not fit to be doing the job. The only journey permitted is to a competent workshop.
Write out a proper defect report, noting the defect number on your check/time sheet, hand it in to garage, ask them to sign it off.
EBS warning could be anything a pad wear imbalance or something silly. Unless the ABS warning lamp was on I’d use it no problem.
romik:
DAF CF 56 plate it’s on all the time, garage suggested Ok to drive as is but I don’t have it in writing. Should I ignore and drive or demand repair? It’s not hooked up to trailer.
Dont mess with the Brakes.
Have a read. At the end are Questions and Answers
transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/ … 063837.pdf
romik:
DAF CF 56 plate it’s on all the time, garage suggested Ok to drive as is but I don’t have it in writing. Should I ignore and drive or demand repair? It’s not hooked up to trailer.
Have you tried hooking it up to a trailer and building up the air, you may find the warning light will extinguish after driving a few feet. If not, check the ABS lead connection, sometimes there will be a wonky pin inside the socket on the trailer preventing a good connection, or like mike said try just turning the lead around. Never had the issue on a solo unit if I am honest.
I have had mysterious ABS/EBS warning lights on DAF CF’s before. Fact is, if you got pulled over any warning lights regarding the brakes will go down like a led balloon.
If it doesn’t go out once you’ve reached 10KPH and doing it not hooked up to a trailer it needs to be fixed.
Garage would say its OK to drive because it isn’t inherently dangerous but that doesn’t mean its legal.
we have a loads of lf’s in my place that do it. there ok to drive. ours are looked after by a small independant garage so it would be in his interest to fix any problem that presented itself, but they go off to him and come back and still do it. he says there fine, and as they have the same braking force before during and after the warning as gone off they seem fine to me to.
Had this a few times on our Kenworths’ , more often than not it’s a sensor issue . You could try backing up for a hundred yards or so , turn the truck off , ignition back on and let the engine management reboot itself , sounds odd but works .
deltawing:
ours are looked after by a small independant garage so it would be in his interest to fix any problem that presented itself, but they go off to him and come back and still do it. he says there fine, and as they have the same braking force before during and after the warning as gone off they seem fine to me to.
One of the customers of the agency I drive for uses a small independent garage and I have never ever come across a more incompetent bunch of halfwits ever.
The reason they go off and come back still faulty is because he doesn’t know how to fix it and doesn’t have the equipment to diagnose it properly. Yes they do have the same braking force in normal use, that’s not the issue. However do they work as they should in the event of losing traction such as sliding on a corner when aquaplaning, sliding on a damp road or on ice? No. And that is where EBS earns its money and saves you from the ditch and why it was made mandatory on vehicles of a certain age.
Surely the best people to make the call if its safe and legal to drive are the workshops. Perhaps a pad wear sensor is no longer reading correctly so you get an ebs warning on the dash, the garage can see its a pad wear sensor fault, they can check the pads are fine send the vehicle back into service with the fault still present, the vehicle can still be driven legally and the brakes and ebs system work fine?
Back in the early 80’s when I was attempting to learn the spanners, we had a unit in with an electrical prob. Took it to the elecy workshop, turned out to be the elecy suzy at fault.
A brake pad sensor has nothing at all to do with EBS …As previously said check your Susie pins ,even swap the Susie ,and check your fuses ,Vehicle fuses are 32 32 I think ,can’t remember the trailer ones though 1 is on the left hand bank of 6 the ones that run vertical …If the workshop don’t have the facilities to read the fault ,then suggest it either goes to someone who can ,or pay the fee and have someone attend who can read the faults…It will probably be a wheel speed sensor,or shock horror wiring
I had this when coupled up to trailer but not when bob tail. All the garage did was replace a fuse, problem solved. Sorry not sure which fuse could have been 32 as norb said.
Basically previous driver had ripped off the susies and the fuse wasn’t replaced with the new susies.
norb:
A brake pad sensor has nothing at all to do with EBS …As previously said check your Susie pins ,even swap the Susie ,and check your fuses ,Vehicle fuses are 32 32 I think ,can’t remember the trailer ones though 1 is on the left hand bank of 6 the ones that run vertical …If the workshop don’t have the facilities to read the fault ,then suggest it either goes to someone who can ,or pay the fee and have someone attend who can read the faults…It will probably be a wheel speed sensor,or shock horror wiring
I can’t speak in the case of a DAF as I’ve not had a lot to do with them but in other vehicles a defective pad wear sensor or a large pad wear imbalance across an axle will most certainly bring up an active EBS fault on the dash.
deltawing:
we have a loads of lf’s in my place that do it. there ok to drive. ours are looked after by a small independant garage so it would be in his interest to fix any problem that presented itself, but they go off to him and come back and still do it. he says there fine, and as they have the same braking force before during and after the warning as gone off they seem fine to me to.
Bet he wouldn’t be willing to put “it’s fine” in writing for you.
Get pulled into a VOSA site with an ABS/EBS warning light that won’t extinguish, you’ll get a fine.
rob22888:
deltawing:
we have a loads of lf’s in my place that do it. there ok to drive. ours are looked after by a small independant garage so it would be in his interest to fix any problem that presented itself, but they go off to him and come back and still do it. he says there fine, and as they have the same braking force before during and after the warning as gone off they seem fine to me to.Bet he wouldn’t be willing to put “it’s fine” in writing for you.
Get pulled into a VOSA site with an ABS/EBS warning light that won’t extinguish, you’ll get a fine.
i got tugged once and the abs trailer warning light was on, told the guy who did his checks then told me that it was still working but too change the suzie when i got back too yard (which i did and cured problem). no fine, no lecture.
Thanks for all replies. Was busy. I waited in yard for them to sort it out. It was amber, didn’t want the risk of being pulled over and penalised.