Scenario:
Dual carriagway with lane 1 coned off for a mile with average speed ‘Specs’ scamera’s at each end.
Mate of mine says that its now a single carriagway road and become’s 40mph for HGV’s, I dont agree because it has a central dividing crash barrier and so remain’s at 50mph for HGV’s the same as the reduced limit for the roadworks / lane closure.
who is right please??
well, seeing as your know all-know ■■■■■■■ mate is talking ■■■■■■■■, you would be correct as it still has a central reservation and that makes it a dual carriageway, not how many lanes it has got 
Excessive use of the aberrant apostrophe! Apparently, as once revealed on a thread here, even if one whole side of a DC was closed, HGVs can still legally do 50mph on what is effectively a single carriageway, unless otherwise stated.
shuttlespanker:
your know all-know [zb] mate is talking ■■■■■■■■
Funny, thats the exact term i used when talking to him about the subject aswel 
Cheers for that 
Snudger:
Excessive use of the aberrant apostrophe!
Thanks mate 
Snudger:
Apparently, as once revealed on a thread here, even if one whole side of a DC was closed, HGVs can still legally do 50mph on what is effectively a single carriageway, unless otherwise stated.
That’s the one. Thank you Mr Holic.
Snudger:
Excessive use of the aberrant apostrophe!
What if the DC has been converted to one lane permanently. Many have and still have the end of DC sign at the end of the central verge.
Answers on a post card.
truckerjimbo:
Snudger:
Excessive use of the aberrant apostrophe!What if the DC has been converted to one lane permanently. Many have and still have the end of DC sign at the end of the central verge.
Answers on a post card.
I haven’t got a postcard so this will have to do
A dual carriageway is a dual carriageway regardless of how many lanes there are.
truckerjimbo:
Snudger:
Excessive use of the aberrant apostrophe!What if the DC has been converted to one lane permanently.
The number of lanes is irrelevant, that’s not what makes a carriageway dual.
truckerjimbo:
Many have and still have the end of DC sign at the end of the central verge.
Course they do because they are dual carriageways.
Yes, a dual carriageway can have one, two, three or eleventy billion lanes, it is still a dual carriageway provided it is separated from traffic coming in the opposite direction by something other than white paint, and the speed limit is 50mph for HGVs unless otherwise signposted.
Harry Monk:
Yes, a dual carriageway can have one, two, three or eleventy billion lanes, it is still a dual carriageway provided it is separated from traffic coming in the opposite direction by something other than white paint, and the speed limit is 50mph for HGVs unless otherwise signposted.
Thank you guys.
Happy new year.
Ok so what about for example the A616 at stocksbridge? It has two lanes on one side and one on the other. National speed limit with average cams. No barriers only solid white lines
I often get over taken by trucks doing 50 whilst I’m only willing to sit at 40 and not risk a ticket…
Who is in the wrong? Me or them?
thelorryist:
Ok so what about for example the A616 at stocksbridge? It has two lanes on one side and one on the other. National speed limit with average cams. No barriers only solid white linesI often get over taken by trucks doing 50 whilst I’m only willing to sit at 40 and not risk a ticket…
Who is in the wrong? Me or them?
That’s a single carriageway. The number of lanes has nothing to do with deciding if a road is dual or single.
thelorryist:
No barriers only solid white lines.
There’s your answer. If there is no physical separation then it’s a single carriageway even if there are ten lanes in each direction. So it’s a 40mph limit in your example.
As Coffee said the number of lanes in each direction make no difference, if there is no physical barrier between you and the traffic coming the other way it is a single carriageway. If there is a physical barrier it’s a dual. Simples.
Paul
Just to stir the pot a bit …
NSL 3 lane SC with middle lane coned off from both sides for roadworks
50 limit posted
Speed for LGVs over 7.5 = ■■?
So what’s the deal with the A38(M), perhaps it’s exceptionally exceptional, the bit with 7 lanes and no physical barrier yet it’s a motorway? There’s a 50mph max posted but what’s the max speed limit for HGVs there?
Snudger:
So what’s the deal with the A38(M), perhaps it’s exceptionally exceptional, the bit with 7 lanes and no physical barrier yet it’s a motorway? There’s a 50mph max posted but what’s the max speed limit for HGVs there?
Same as the signposted limit, it’s a motorway. Take the (M) bit away from is designation then it would be 40 but with that there it’s 50.
Snudger:
So what’s the deal with the A38(M), perhaps it’s exceptionally exceptional, the bit with 7 lanes and no physical barrier yet it’s a motorway? There’s a 50mph max posted but what’s the max speed limit for HGVs there?
The A38 (M) is a motorway not a dual carriageway and it’s subject to motorway rules.
The speed limit for HGVs is 50 mph as signposted.
Thanks, I assumed that, not that I use it much, or ever in an HGV. Your post typo tacho might be considered misleading as the A38 is NOT a motorway.