Hi Guys and Lasses,
This is the best place to come for this info. You guys know more than VOSA 
I work for agency’s and I have just got a part time job driving the NHS clinicians/doctors in there green stripy cars. I was just wondering about driving time etc. I know it is included in the weekly working time regardless of what type of vehicle. However do I have to include driving time? I will still be driving lgv as well
miketaurus:
Hi Guys and Lasses,This is the best place to come for this info. You guys know more than VOSA
I work for agency’s and I have just got a part time job driving the NHS clinicians/doctors in there green stripy cars. I was just wondering about driving time etc. I know it is included in the weekly working time regardless of what type of vehicle. However do I have to include driving time? I will still be driving lgv as well
just keep stum
I did private ambulance driving under all conditions as a crew driver, my job was to lift an push and drive the blood box the EMT dealt with the person on the stretcher.
miketaurus:
Hi Guys and Lasses,This is the best place to come for this info. You guys know more than VOSA
I work for agency’s and I have just got a part time job driving the NHS clinicians/doctors in there green stripy cars. I was just wondering about driving time etc. I know it is included in the weekly working time regardless of what type of vehicle. However do I have to include driving time? I will still be driving lgv as well
Vehicle under 3.5 tonnes GVW = other work for EU regs
You only need to record that if you did any EU LGV regs driving in the same fixed week
easiest way to record other work in another job is to use a separate analogue card for each shift with name date start and finish time on each - bin after 29 calendar days if you want to
that’s the legal requirements but what you actually do is up to you
nick2008:
miketaurus:
Hi Guys and Lasses,This is the best place to come for this info. You guys know more than VOSA
I work for agency’s and I have just got a part time job driving the NHS clinicians/doctors in there green stripy cars. I was just wondering about driving time etc. I know it is included in the weekly working time regardless of what type of vehicle. However do I have to include driving time? I will still be driving lgv as well
just keep stum
I did private ambulance driving under all conditions as a crew driver, my job was to lift an push and drive the blood box the EMT dealt with the person on the stretcher.
Naa best do it right. Why did you come off that?
ROG:
miketaurus:
Hi Guys and Lasses,This is the best place to come for this info. You guys know more than VOSA
I work for agency’s and I have just got a part time job driving the NHS clinicians/doctors in there green stripy cars. I was just wondering about driving time etc. I know it is included in the weekly working time regardless of what type of vehicle. However do I have to include driving time? I will still be driving lgv as well
Vehicle under 3.5 tonnes GVW = other work for EU regs
You only need to record that if you did any EU LGV regs driving in the same fixed week
easiest way to record other work in another job is to use a separate analogue card for each shift with name date start and finish time on each - bin after 29 calendar days if you want to
that’s the legal requirements but what you actually do is up to you
Ok thanks. I guess rest periods still stand between shifts and jobs.
I was once told that Vosa can check your pay via DWP to see if you have any other income other than what you declare to them. (to check if you have a 2nd, undeclared job)
Driving non-scope vehicles will class as ‘other work’ but I dont think you have to declare the actual driving time, just need to adhere to breaks and weekly rest.
miketaurus:
I guess rest periods still stand between shifts and jobs.
Daily rest periods need to be observed if under EU regs
How that works in reality in a fixed week where no EU regs driving was anticipated at the start of that week is interesting
I think it goes on a 24 hour period only in which the driver comes under EU regs
My thinking is that a fixed week could start with the worker doing 18 hour shifts mon to fri as a burger flipper then doing a EU regs shift on a Saturday and in that case I assume a daily rest period would need to be done before and after the EU regs shift ■■?!!!
I have never had a definitive on this issue … maybe now?
alphonsohall:
I was once told that Vosa can check your pay via DWP to see if you have any other income other than what you declare to them. (to check if you have a 2nd, undeclared job)
Why would you have to declare anything to the DWP, if you aren’t claiming any benfits ?
These are multi agency checks when you have Vosa,police,Dwp and HMC&E dipping tanks for red,parafin and kerosene.
You are correct,Dwp can be at check points.
They obtain revenue details from your date of birth and name if you refuse to give them your National Insurance number at the road side.
I heard drivers caught with arrears to the Csa.
If it is only Vosa there,i am not sure if they can access the Dwp data base to see what other jobs you have.?
toby1234abc:
These are multi agency checks when you have Vosa,police,Dwp and HMC&E dipping tanks for red,parafin and kerosene.
You are correct,Dwp can be at check points.
They obtain revenue details from your date of birth and name if you refuse to give them your National Insurance number at the road side.
I heard drivers caught with arrears to the Csa.
If it is only Vosa there,i am not sure if they can access the Dwp data base to see what other jobs you have.?
The Csa 
am I not safe anywhere!!! Aaaaargh 
miketaurus:
I guess rest periods still stand between shifts and jobs.
If in a fixed week you work to EU regulations you should comply with daily and weekly rest periods.
You only have to have EU daily rest periods on days that you work in-scope of EU regulations.
For instance if you drive a small van/car Monday to Thursday then on Friday drive in-scope of EU regulations, you would need to ensure that there was at-least 9 hours rest between the Thursday and Friday shifts, then when you start the EU type work on Friday a new period of 24 hours would begin so you would need the required daily rest period within that period of 24 hours.
Put simply you should have a daily rest period before and after the EU in-scope shift, apart from that the days that you work out of scope of EU regulations you’re under the general WTD and can basically do what you like but legally should keep a record of the start and end times
In the above scenario because you’ve done some work in-scope of EU regulations during the fixed week you should have a weekly rest period starting no later than 144 hours from the end of the previous weekly rest period.
However if you never worked in-scope of EU regulations in the previous week so never needed a weekly rest period the 144 hours would begin at 00:00 Monday morning.
edit: As has already been said the driving of small vans/cars is classed as other work if you drive in-scope of EU regulations in the same week.
tachograph:
miketaurus:
I guess rest periods still stand between shifts and jobs.If in a fixed week you work to EU regulations you should comply with daily and weekly rest periods.
You only have to have EU daily rest periods on days that you work in-scope of EU regulations.
For instance if you drive a small van/car Monday to Thursday then on Friday drive in-scope of EU regulations, you would need to ensure that there was at-least 9 hours rest between the Thursday and Friday shifts, then when you start the EU type work on Friday a new period of 24 hours would begin so you would need the required daily rest period within that period of 24 hours.
Put simply you should have a daily rest period before and after the EU in-scope shift, apart from that the days that you work out of scope of EU regulations you’re under the general WTD and can basically do what you like but legally should keep a record of the start and end times
In the above scenario because you’ve done some work in-scope of EU regulations during the fixed week you should have a weekly rest period starting no later than 144 hours from the end of the previous weekly rest period.
However if you never worked in-scope of EU regulations in the previous week so never needed a weekly rest period the 144 hours would begin at 00:00 Monday morning.edit: As has already been said the driving of small vans/cars is classed as other work if you drive in-scope of EU regulations in the same week.
Thanks
However if you never worked in-scope of EU regulations in the previous week so never needed a weekly rest period the 144 hours would begin at 00:00 Monday morning.
I would have said that the 144 period starts whenever the first shift of that fixed week starts as that is when the records for that fixed week begin
ROG:
However if you never worked in-scope of EU regulations in the previous week so never needed a weekly rest period the 144 hours would begin at 00:00 Monday morning.
I would have said that the 144 period starts whenever the first shift of that fixed week starts as that is when the records for that fixed week begin
Sorry that’s my mistake 
As you rightly say, I should have said the 144 hours starts when you first commence work after 00:00 Monday morning not at 00:00 Monday morning.