Hi I’m wondering if I can get some help i have tried to find out what I’m asking but can’t seem to get my head around it.
I’m looking at starting a job which is Recovery and use of tacho card. It’s a 12 hour day Monday to Friday with each other Saturday.
Can someone tell me how this would meet with the Tacho regulations as the weekly rest period wouldn’t be right. Thanks
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When recovering breakdowns and accident damage you get tacho exemption inside a 100km radius of your operating base. Commonly local firms have most ops inside the circle most days and rarely need to go on card.
Aa etc will be tacho all week as they will get work anywhere geographically.
You will still be bound by GB domestic but is much more flexible.
We are required to use Tacho and are all over
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Do driver time and work time come as separate
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Jakeea:
Hi I’m wondering if I can get some help i have tried to find out what I’m asking but can’t seem to get my head around it.I’m looking at starting a job which is Recovery and use of tacho card. It’s a 12 hour day Monday to Friday with each other Saturday.
Can someone tell me how this would meet with the Tacho regulations as the weekly rest period wouldn’t be right. Thanks
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Theres 2 rules your thought in the theory test and in the cpc, working time directive and driving time. More then likely wouldnt be driving for 4.5 hours so driving times wont effect you. So focus mostly on working time directive as this will be the one that most likely effects you and most drivers get caught on. Driving time only really effects long haul contentinal driving.
Just an example: So I you start at 6am regardless of what type of work im doing weither it be loading/unloading or driving, I take a break for 46mins (as I was told a 45min on a tacho might only read 44mins which doesnt register a total other arguement) but always before 12noon. So Id put it on break at 11.45 or as close as (as there will be times where you get a bit close to the 6hr mark). Other then that you have nothing really to worry about. Take your breaks dont do dummy breaks when your working, Vosa will only get ye [emoji1783]
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And don’t forget if you’re recovering a vehicle that is carrying ADR the recovery driver requires ADR to in the classification being carried.
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Jakeea:
Hi I’m wondering if I can get some help i have tried to find out what I’m asking but can’t seem to get my head around it.I’m looking at starting a job which is Recovery and use of tacho card. It’s a 12 hour day Monday to Friday with each other Saturday.
Can someone tell me how this would meet with the Tacho regulations as the weekly rest period wouldn’t be right. Thanks
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Theres 2 rules your thought in the theory test and in the cpc, working time directive and driving time. More then likely wouldnt be driving for 4.5 hours so driving times wont effect you. So focus mostly on working time directive as this will be the one that most likely effects you and most drivers get caught on. Driving time only really effects long haul contentinal driving.
Just an example: So I you start at 6am regardless of what type of work im doing weither it be loading/unloading or driving, I take a break for 46mins (as I was told a 45min on a tacho might only read 44mins which doesnt register a total other arguement) but always before 12noon. So Id put it on break at 11.45 or as close as (as there will be times where you get a bit close to the 6hr mark). Other then that you have nothing really to worry about. Take your breaks dont do dummy breaks when your working, Vosa will only get ye [emoji1783]
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Thank you that makes a little more sense to me. I’m new to all this lol so I am a bit worried.
How does the weekly rest effect me? I would still have to take my 45 hours over the Saturday and Sunday period? Also the working hours go over 60 if I was to do Monday to Saturday. Which is another concern of mine
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And don’t forget if you’re recovering a vehicle that is carrying ADR the recovery driver requires ADR to in the classification being carried.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Nice one ! Thank you
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Jakeea:
brianchalkyshaw:
Jakeea:
Hi I’m wondering if I can get some help i have tried to find out what I’m asking but can’t seem to get my head around it.I’m looking at starting a job which is Recovery and use of tacho card. It’s a 12 hour day Monday to Friday with each other Saturday.
Can someone tell me how this would meet with the Tacho regulations as the weekly rest period wouldn’t be right. Thanks
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Theres 2 rules your thought in the theory test and in the cpc, working time directive and driving time. More then likely wouldnt be driving for 4.5 hours so driving times wont effect you. So focus mostly on working time directive as this will be the one that most likely effects you and most drivers get caught on. Driving time only really effects long haul contentinal driving.
Just an example: So I you start at 6am regardless of what type of work im doing weither it be loading/unloading or driving, I take a break for 46mins (as I was told a 45min on a tacho might only read 44mins which doesnt register a total other arguement) but always before 12noon. So Id put it on break at 11.45 or as close as (as there will be times where you get a bit close to the 6hr mark). Other then that you have nothing really to worry about. Take your breaks dont do dummy breaks when your working, Vosa will only get ye [emoji1783]
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Thank you that makes a little more sense to me. I’m new to all this lol so I am a bit worried.
How does the weekly rest effect me? I would still have to take my 45 hours over the Saturday and Sunday period? Also the working hours go over 60 if I was to do Monday to Saturday. Which is another concern of mine
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It states you can do a 60hr week max, once you dont exceed the average of 48hours of working time. What do they mean by average i dont know so every other week id do a 60hr.
So id do it like this
Week 1 50hr
Week 2 40hr
Week 3 50hr
Week 4 40hr
So in a typical month i do 180hrs of work my “average” would be 45hours in this case (180÷4weeks). So Im still complying with the law.
Id recommend you get a callender like the old fasioned ones and take note of your hours worked and at the end of the week tally them up so youve an idea what you work as well as keeping an eye on what they are paying you against what your working.
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Right so I can only work 60 hours a week?
If I was to do a 12 hour shift Monday to Friday that’s 60 hours at work?
And I was was to do Monday to Saturday at 12 hours a day would be 72?
Therefore I’m thinking I’d be over my hours please correct me if I am wrong
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Or minus a 45 min break a day would make it 11hrs and 15 mins a day ?
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Jakeea:
Right so I can only work 60 hours a week?If I was to do a 12 hour shift Monday to Friday that’s 60 hours at work?
And I was was to do Monday to Saturday at 12 hours a day would be 72?
Therefore I’m thinking I’d be over my hours please correct me if I am wrong
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If your to go by the word of the the law legally you might have to reduce the following week to get your average down to the 60hrs. But im not too sure how it works when they word it like “average” because that can be interpreted by month or by year. So theres a grey area around rest time because theres a grey area over the working average.
Ive just picked out some of the facts in the picture I have below.
rest – 11 hours daily rest.
35 hours consecutive rest every 7 days so your days off (say Saturday-Sunday). If you work the Sunday you might have to work the late shift to keep in check with this one.
In Monday-Friday 12hrs a day (60hrs)
24hrs rest Saturday
12hrs rest Sunday and start late Sunday.
It seems a bit messy but im sure it can be worked out when you get a proper roster with your hours. 
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Are you on EU or UK domestic regs 
ROG:
Are you on EU or UK domestic regs
EU I believe. We used the tacho and run alongside WTD
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Jakeea:
Right so I can only work 60 hours a week?If I was to do a 12 hour shift Monday to Friday that’s 60 hours at work?
And I was was to do Monday to Saturday at 12 hours a day would be 72?
Therefore I’m thinking I’d be over my hours please correct me if I am wrong
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If your to go by the word of the the law legally you might have to reduce the following week to get your average down to the 60hrs. But im not too sure how it works when they word it like “average” because that can be interpreted by month or by year. So theres a grey area around rest time because theres a grey area over the working average.
Ive just picked out some of the facts in the picture I have below.
rest – 11 hours daily rest.
35 hours consecutive rest every 7 days so your days off (say Saturday-Sunday). If you work the Sunday you might have to work the late shift to keep in check with this one.
In Monday-Friday 12hrs a day (60hrs)
24hrs rest Saturday
12hrs rest Sunday and start late Sunday.It seems a bit messy but im sure it can be worked out when you get a proper roster with your hours.
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Thank you so much. Still seems to me doing 72 hours every other week would be illegal
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Jakeea:
brianchalkyshaw:
Jakeea:
Right so I can only work 60 hours a week?If I was to do a 12 hour shift Monday to Friday that’s 60 hours at work?
And I was was to do Monday to Saturday at 12 hours a day would be 72?
Therefore I’m thinking I’d be over my hours please correct me if I am wrong
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If your to go by the word of the the law legally you might have to reduce the following week to get your average down to the 60hrs. But im not too sure how it works when they word it like “average” because that can be interpreted by month or by year. So theres a grey area around rest time because theres a grey area over the working average.
Ive just picked out some of the facts in the picture I have below.
rest – 11 hours daily rest.
35 hours consecutive rest every 7 days so your days off (say Saturday-Sunday). If you work the Sunday you might have to work the late shift to keep in check with this one.
In Monday-Friday 12hrs a day (60hrs)
24hrs rest Saturday
12hrs rest Sunday and start late Sunday.It seems a bit messy but im sure it can be worked out when you get a proper roster with your hours.
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Thank you so much. Still seems to me doing 72 hours every other week would be illegal
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I`m not sure that a screen-shot referring to Irish Doctors from 2013 is the best reference material?
Rog is asking the correct questions, as he usually does.
I suggest you look at these:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=154207
gov.uk/drivers-hours
Jakeea:
Hi I’m wondering if I can get some help i have tried to find out what I’m asking but can’t seem to get my head around it.I’m looking at starting a job which is Recovery and use of tacho card. It’s a 12 hour day Monday to Friday with each other Saturday.
Can someone tell me how this would meet with the Tacho regulations as the weekly rest period wouldn’t be right. Thanks
Assuming EU regs.
When you say its a 12hr day, you mean the start and end times are 12 hrs apart? Your working day may end 12hrs after you start but probably all of those 12 hrs wont be counted as work time. Breaks, POA will not count towards work time.
The driving time is limited to 90hrs per fortnight.
Assuming you start/end the same times every working day, one weekend you will have a weekly rest of 60hrs one weekend and 36hrs the next.
The full weekend rest is 45hrs. Being “short” by 9hrs one weekend is compensated by being “over” by 15hrs the next.
Ill willingly stand correction if thats wrong.
Franglais:
Jakeea:
brianchalkyshaw:
Jakeea:
Right so I can only work 60 hours a week?If I was to do a 12 hour shift Monday to Friday that’s 60 hours at work?
And I was was to do Monday to Saturday at 12 hours a day would be 72?
Therefore I’m thinking I’d be over my hours please correct me if I am wrong
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If your to go by the word of the the law legally you might have to reduce the following week to get your average down to the 60hrs. But im not too sure how it works when they word it like “average” because that can be interpreted by month or by year. So theres a grey area around rest time because theres a grey area over the working average.
Ive just picked out some of the facts in the picture I have below.
rest – 11 hours daily rest.
35 hours consecutive rest every 7 days so your days off (say Saturday-Sunday). If you work the Sunday you might have to work the late shift to keep in check with this one.
In Monday-Friday 12hrs a day (60hrs)
24hrs rest Saturday
12hrs rest Sunday and start late Sunday.It seems a bit messy but im sure it can be worked out when you get a proper roster with your hours.
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Thank you so much. Still seems to me doing 72 hours every other week would be illegal
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I`m not sure that a screen-shot referring to Irish Doctors from 2013 is the best reference material?
Rog is asking the correct questions, as he usually does.
I suggest you look at these:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=154207
gov.uk/drivers-hoursJakeea:
Hi I’m wondering if I can get some help i have tried to find out what I’m asking but can’t seem to get my head around it.I’m looking at starting a job which is Recovery and use of tacho card. It’s a 12 hour day Monday to Friday with each other Saturday.
Can someone tell me how this would meet with the Tacho regulations as the weekly rest period wouldn’t be right. Thanks
Assuming EU regs.
When you say its a 12hr day, you mean the start and end times are 12 hrs apart? Your working day may end 12hrs after you start but probably all of those 12 hrs wont be counted as work time. Breaks, POA will not count towards work time.
The driving time is limited to 90hrs per fortnight.
Assuming you start/end the same times every working day, one weekend you will have a weekly rest of 60hrs one weekend and 36hrs the next.
The full weekend rest is 45hrs. Being “short” by 9hrs one weekend is compensated by being “over” by 15hrs the next.I
ll willingly stand correction if thats wrong.
Working time directive is working time directive as long as you are in the EU you obay by it, makes no difference if the material is from 2013 or 2019. Its law and from the RSA website in relation to rest times and working time directive so sorry for not having the latest stats on it but I go by who enforces the law over here and its the RSA they follow EU laws and if you looked at it its there in black and white. 
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