i took a wrong turning in le harve late evening some years ago and a bunch of scallys tried to rob me.2 were on a scooter driving slow and wobbling about to hold me back,and another 3 were running behind me opening the trailer door.they did it twice along the street i was in and couldnt turn around.when i stopped the ones at the back would drop back till i closed the door and moved,then scooter boy impeded me so they could catch up and repeat.as you might imagine,i was shouting at them and threatening them with the flick stick to no avail…then the 3rd time when i went to move off,i stopped as scooter boy came back down to turn in front of me.
coincidentally i was next to a brick lying in the gutter which promptly got flung and stotted the aformentioned scooterboy on the side of the head and decked him clean off the bike,whereupon i drove over the front of his scooter and left the lot of them .would that be classed as excessive force?
I use a ratchet strap in a loop through the door handles and have a crowbar close at hand
I’m small and pretty defenceless TBH but if they are coming in to my cab I will take a least one of them with me
I admit that I won’t overnight anywhere other than truck stops, MSAs or secure areas.
good_friend:
I use a ratchet strap in a loop through the door handles and have a crowbar close at handI’m small and pretty defenceless TBH but if they are coming in to my cab I will take a least one of them with me
I admit that I won’t overnight anywhere other than truck stops, MSAs or secure areas.
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id always have a ratchet ■■■■■■■■ abroad,but for some reason,ive never really bothered in the uk,and certainly never dream of it over here in the twilight zone unless in parts of dublin,cork,or at a diddycoys hotspot.
dieseldog999:
good_friend:
I use a ratchet strap in a loop through the door handles and have a crowbar close at handI’m small and pretty defenceless TBH but if they are coming in to my cab I will take a least one of them with me
I admit that I won’t overnight anywhere other than truck stops, MSAs or secure areas.
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id always have a ratchet ■■■■■■■■ abroad,but for some reason,ive never really bothered in the uk,and certainly never dream of it over here in the twilight zone unless in parts of dublin,cork,or at a diddycoys hotspot.
Did Rosslare to Rosscoff once in 2011 and although Rosslare doesnt look too bad a place did notice trucks parked all over, some looked pretty vulnerable. Whats it actually like there DD?
As they say on Crimewatch. “Don’t have nightmares.”
A lot of bravado and Rumpole minds I wager, like America in the 60’s a red in every bed.
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How often are occupied cabs attacked? Trailers raided or diese nickel while driver asleep, yeh. So stay locked up inside. But how many attempts to get into a cab?
(Discount attempts to get out of Dipper’s cab)
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UKtramp:
I have an ice pick under my pillow, if the police quiz me over it, I am a fridge man.
Do you think that will also work when they find a body with ice pick wounds in the fridge?
I find I struggle more trying to stop people escaping from my cab than getting in.
Reasonable force is all relevant, just depends on how much the buggers struggle. Letting them bite the pillow keeps the noise down a lot.
AndrewG:
dieseldog999:
good_friend:
I use a ratchet strap in a loop through the door handles and have a crowbar close at handI’m small and pretty defenceless TBH but if they are coming in to my cab I will take a least one of them with me
I admit that I won’t overnight anywhere other than truck stops, MSAs or secure areas.
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id always have a ratchet ■■■■■■■■ abroad,but for some reason,ive never really bothered in the uk,and certainly never dream of it over here in the twilight zone unless in parts of dublin,cork,or at a diddycoys hotspot.Did Rosslare to Rosscoff once in 2011 and although Rosslare doesnt look too bad a place did notice trucks parked all over, some looked pretty vulnerable. Whats it actually like there DD?
rosslare is just your normal part of eire that isnt dublin or cork hence when you drive off the ferry the tannoy reminds you to turn your clocks back 50 years. basically park anywhere with no greif compared to the uk.
the only probs will be the diddycoys robbing the diesel,but its not something to really be thinking about compared to the rest of the country.the macodougalls are generally rife everywhere but at the same time its nothing like the uk.just another example of the land that time forgot.just dont have english flags or english flags on your plates if you dont want some of them to take the hump.
treble yellow lines generally means just park with at leaste a cpl wheels up on the pavement.
I have a homemade ‘tazer’ stepped up to 20,000 volts concealed as a medicine pot.
I don’t have much regard for the law with regards to personal safety; if somebody is trying to attack me then anything goes. Those relying on the “take it mate, I’m not a hero” method will end up at best with a concussion and at worst dead - the world’s changing and people aren’t scared of causing serious injury for a few quid.
Javiatrix:
I have a homemade ‘tazer’ stepped up to 20,000 volts concealed as a medicine pot.I don’t have much regard for the law with regards to personal safety; if somebody is trying to attack me then anything goes. Those relying on the “take it mate, I’m not a hero” method will end up at best with a concussion and at worst dead - the world’s changing and people aren’t scared of causing serious injury for a few quid.
How many shots do you get out of that device?
Maybe one “bad guy” will “go down”? His mates who may have been looking for a quick clean job may now be a trifle upset. Remember they’re on a job rate and you’re costing them time too!
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Anyway what are we all talking about?
Someone who is nicking diesel and we want to get at? For me, stay in the cab and phone the cops. We don’t know if they’re just a couple of chancers who’ll run off, or a ■■■■■■ up ■■■■■■ and his mate who’s footie team just got kicked out of the cup and are feeling like a barney?
Someone who is helping themselves to your load after cutting your sheets? Hint one: they used a knife to cut your sheets. Hint two there’s likely two or three of them ■■■■■■■ the goods off. Maybe if you’ve some good gear they’ve already phoned their mates. As before stay inside and make a quiet phone call.
Someone scratching at your door lock? Maybe they don’t realise you’re in there. Lights on, move around give them a chance to get away.
They still are determined to get in after they know you’re there?
Why?? Robbing drivers poor underpaid us, isn’t the best way of earning a crust I’d have thought.
Surely this doesn’t happen enough to worry too much about?
Carrying expensive easily moved goods? I’ve known of loads of that sort of stuff hijacked in France and Italy. Not myself involved fortunately but same company at the time. In one case guns were involved. Anyone wanting to argue with a bunch of people waving those things around is a fool.
Mostly Do NOT park anywhere quiet whatever you have on, or even if empty. Generally crooks aren’t interested in knicking drivers underpants while they sleep. (line up the usual suspects) Lock yourself in, use a strap between the doors if you better. Don’t get out to be a hero. Use your phone. If someone is actually getting in then noise lights and thump them, but mostly make sure you’re a difficult target let some other bugger be the patsy.
Mazzer2:
robroy:
ItsJoe:
Do none of you have kitchen knives in your cab for making food? I’d rather be using a kitchen knife which I have a valid reason to have than a baseball bat which could get me in trouble…I reckon there would be more chance of ending up on a murder or manslaughter rap, by using a knife rather than a bat mate tbh.
There was a case a while back where a German driver stabbed two vermin at Wolverhampton who were trying to steal from him, one ended up dead and he walked away got off on self defence
I’m pretty sure he was an driver from Hungary and it happened in Dudley and it was 3 well known scroates who had tried to break in to truck cabs before.
He stabbed all 3 killing one in the process, he was arrested on a murder charge but the CPS threw it out on self defence. Of course the prick who was killed his family were up in arms of the driver going free. Serves the Wayne Kerr right for trying to get into someone’s home. If he didn’t go out with the intention of doing what he did he may be still alive.
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
Mazzer2:
robroy:
ItsJoe:
Do none of you have kitchen knives in your cab for making food? I’d rather be using a kitchen knife which I have a valid reason to have than a baseball bat which could get me in trouble…I reckon there would be more chance of ending up on a murder or manslaughter rap, by using a knife rather than a bat mate tbh.
There was a case a while back where a German driver stabbed two vermin at Wolverhampton who were trying to steal from him, one ended up dead and he walked away got off on self defence
I’m pretty sure he was an driver from Hungary and it happened in Dudley and it was 3 well known scroates who had tried to break in to truck cabs before.
He stabbed all 3 killing one in the process, he was arrested on a murder charge but the CPS threw it out on self defence. Of course the prick who was killed his family were up in arms of the driver going free. Serves the Wayne Kerr right for trying to get into someone’s home. If he didn’t go out with the intention of doing what he did he may be still alive.
He was Greek and it was Coleshill
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One died and two were treated in hospital, they drove to hospital in a Subaru Impreza
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There was a case a while back where a German driver stabbed two vermin at Wolverhampton who were trying to steal from him, one ended up dead and he walked away got off on self defence
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I’m pretty sure he was an driver from Hungary and it happened in Dudley and it was 3 well known scroates who had tried to break in to truck cabs before.
He stabbed all 3 killing one in the process, he was arrested on a murder charge but the CPS threw it out on self defence. Of course the prick who was killed his family were up in arms of the driver going free. Serves the Wayne Kerr right for trying to get into someone’s home. If he didn’t go out with the intention of doing what he did he may be still alive.
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He was Greek and it was Coleshill
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Lol Well wherever he was from the main thing is that he got off 
Deep heat aerosol spray is your friend
Unless you train for violence day in day out, week in week out you simply do not know how you will deal with it until (literally) it hits you in the face. It’s got nothing to do with how big or hard you think you may be, the simple truth is that the overwhelming majority of the population are terrified of getting hurt quite simply because they are not used to it. The biggest monster may well turn to jelly and the smallest “wimp” could well turn into a raging nutter when pushed into a corner.
Personally I think that the best fight is the one you avoid. Simple as that.
the maoster:
Unless you train for violence day in day out, week in week out you simply do not know how you will deal with it until (literally) it hits you in the face. It’s got nothing to do with how big or hard you think you may be, the simple truth is that the overwhelming majority of the population are terrified of getting hurt quite simply because they are not used to it. The biggest monster may well turn to jelly and the smallest “wimp” could well turn into a raging nutter when pushed into a corner.Personally I think that the best fight is the one you avoid. Simple as that.
Very true maoster, look at how that turned out for Ronnie Pickering