I’ve got a lot of sympathy with this guy, these are the sorts of crappy roads I use on my job.every week.
He was lucky (obviously not the right word ) that he did not take his o_s front step off on those cobbles firstly.
He may even have got round I think, if he had maintained that direction of steer a bit longer…he cut in a bit tight too soon.
He also went around a bit fast, but I get why, to maybe maintain traction, and I suspect he lost view of his trailer axles in mirror on that tight turn.
Absolutely! The driver was trying to negotiate, not navigate the sharp bend
You can’t negociate with a corner, it simply won’t listen.
However, I’ll grant that you spelt 'negotiate correctly.
As far as the driver is concerned, too fast giving him too little time to monitor his near side mirror, but if it was a first offence I would have given him a one more chance warning, as a TM once did for a mate of mine who destroyed a Highwayman’s drive train by trying to get it back into gear from over 60 mph in angel gear down from Stainmore, in a wagon which could only voluntarily attain 38 in said gear.
On hearing my friend’s explanation the TM was silent for a few minutes before saying ‘OK, last warning, you can keep your job because I am sure you won’t do that again, but if I sack you, the bloke I get to replace you, well might.’
My use (as well as spelling) of the word negotiate was entirely correct. The Concise Oxford Dictionary gives three meanings of the verb to negotiate. I used the second meaning listed: find a way over or through an obstacle or difficult path.
In the very early days of mobile phones in lorries (ie bricks!), my then boss berated me for not answering the phone as I neared the yard. I replied, ‘Sorry, I was navigating the offset bridge at the top of town.’
‘What?’ he said. ‘Lorry drivers don’t negotiate bridges, they drive over them!’ Which had us both in stitches in the end.
Grudgingly, hmmm, though I know of that usage and disapprove of it, but I did concede that you got the right spelling, whereas I didn’t and furthermore did not edit it in order to emphasise my concession.
However, I don’t think either one of us would have overturned the lorry in that case.
D’accord: we’re both innocent as found. And emphatically yes: neither of us would have filled that poor bugger’s cottage with lime (or whatever the load was)
I think what we really could have done with was a photo of the inside of said cottage after the event. I really hope he/she was well treated with compensation.
I don’t think it was doable his trailer wheels were too close to the bump and it didn’t look like he even got the front trailer wheel beyond the proper turn point
Too tight for trucks I guess
Also I’ve been ‘sacked’ for less so probably justified
Without seeing the trailer axles you are right it is bad to judge.
I still think he cut back in too soon to give himself a chance, and that he did not use every inch of space available to him to make a wider sweep.
It would be good to know if others before him had managed to get round on that road…maybe that is why he was sacked…a regular used road with his firm?
I did make light of his situation, though after googling it, looks like he is still missing.
72 year old driver, missing for days in a flood, doesn’t bode well.
At the end of the day a lorry driver is his own banksman, if only because he has to carry the can. I’d have anchored up, hazards on, got out of the friggin cab and done a recce. Not rocket science. As I said earlier in the thread, if he’d dug much more snugly into the corners and used every available millimetre, and taken it slowly, he might have got round.
Check out the link I posted, it’s a nightmare ahead after that bend…I have no idea what he was even doing on that road it comes from nowhere and goes nowhere. Probably took a wrong turn somewhere