Fines for any infringements committed in 28 days
Fines for unsecured load
Fines for driving hours
Fines for working hours
Fines for tyres
Fines for lights
Fines for driving in any zones without required permission (e.g. London)
Fines for being overweight
Fines for speeding
Fines for not having cpc card
Fines for not having tacho roll
Fines for not having valid o licence
Fines for smoking in cab
Fines for have stuff near window
Fines for not having 28days of records with you if still analogue or if your digital one is faulty.
Fines for parking to unload when no designated loading area is available.
Anymore? My cpc instructor spent the best part of 2 hours going over the fines but I cant remember them all.
I also condensed a few of them.
Do you guys think this is why people don’t want to drive lorries?
Edit: I’m also noticing a lot more warehouse to wheels schemes popping up.
adam277:
Fines for not having tacho roll
Fines for not having valid o licence
Would that be the myth about spare rolls?
As for o licence, not the drivers problem.
Its possible but I think you would have to ■■■■ the officer off quite a lot for him to issue it. I believe they usually just advise and educate.
I also believe it’s the drivers responsibility to make sure the o licence is displayed and in date.
adam277:
Fines for any infringements committed in 28 days
Fines for unsecured load
Fines for driving hours
Fines for working hours
Fines for tyres
Fines for lights
Fines for driving in any zones without required permission (e.g. London)
Fines for being overweight
Fines for speeding
Fines for not having cpc card
Fines for not having tacho roll
Fines for not having valid o licence
Fines for smoking in cab
Fines for have stuff near window
Fines for not having 28days of records with you if still analogue or if your digital one is faulty.
Fines for parking to unload when no designated loading area is available.
Anymore? My cpc instructor spent the best part of 2 hours going over the fines but I cant remember them all.
I also condensed a few of them.
Do you guys think this is why people don’t want to drive lorries?
Edit: I’m also noticing a lot more warehouse to wheels schemes popping up.
Most people haven’t a clue about trucks or the industry, never mind the multitude of things we can be fined for.
I don’t think it is why people don’t want to drive lorries but I’ll be very surprised if it’s not a big factor in people moving away from the job.
adam277:
Fines for not having tacho roll
Fines for not having valid o licence
Would that be the myth about spare rolls?
As for o licence, not the drivers problem.
DVSA policy is a £100 Fixed Penalty for the driver for failing to carry print roll(s), although contrary to what is spouted in many DCPC sessions, there is no requirement to carry a specific number of spare rolls.
In fact
Thinking back,I’ve only been pulled off the road(By vosa)3 times,and been"investigated"once.
Couple of verbal warnings…and away you go.
Once got pulled by plod,coming out of scarborough…late one night.
But I think he was due for knocking off…and couldn’t be arsed.
adam277:
Fines for not having tacho roll
Fines for not having valid o licence
Would that be the myth about spare rolls?
As for o licence, not the drivers problem.
DVSA policy is a £100 Fixed Penalty for the driver for failing to carry print roll(s), although contrary to what is spouted in many DCPC sessions, there is no requirement to carry a specific number of spare rolls.
If you’d paid attention you’d know that the number of rolls required isn’t specified because the legislation makes no mention of spare Tacho printout rolls whatsoever. The only requirement being that there is "sufficient " printer paper for an officer to carry out the printouts that he/she requires.
Printer rolls… i usually carry at least 3 as a several of the units i get to use seem to be always out of paper just as if someone is taking them out at the end of their shift…!!!
also i have been told ( on one job ) that i must bring in the tail end of the reel to show that that reel is actually finished so it can be logged and a new one is issued … as they are special paper which cost alot of money
yet on other jobs there is a large box on the side which is filled with tacho rolls on a help yourself basis .
Regardless of how many rolls of paper you need, the op makes a valid point. How many other industries are there that CAN get fined for pathetic minor things?
And just because DVSA doesn’t fine you today for not carrying print paper it doesn’t mean they will not fine you in the near future.
The ‘smart’ tachograph is coming this year as well.
DVSA will be able to find out where you have been via GPS in real time. It will also allow the plod to remotely check for infringements.
So they no longer have to stop you to check if you have been naughty.
These new tachos will be fitted on all new trucks after March 2019.
adam277:
Fines for not having tacho roll
Fines for not having valid o licence
Would that be the myth about spare rolls?
As for o licence, not the drivers problem.
No it’s not a myth,the DVSA can ask you to produce 28 days of tacho if you can’t then it’s a fine…of course you can take the risk of hoping the roll already in the unit ain’t about to run out
You can’t just hand them your card and assume they’ll have a reader…
adam277:
Fines for not having tacho roll
Fines for not having valid o licence
Would that be the myth about spare rolls?
As for o licence, not the drivers problem.
No it’s not a myth,the DVSA can ask you to produce 28 days of tacho if you can’t then it’s a fine…of course you can take the risk of hoping the roll already in the unit ain’t avoid to run out
You can’t just have them your card and assume they’ll have a reader…
That’s what I was saying thought, people spout rubbish about how many spare rolls, the classic being 3 “because you always need 2 spare” when actually you just need enough in the machine.
Who has ever been told to print out 28 days at the side of the road, and I’m not counting stories starting “my mate told me” or “my cpc instructor”.
adam277:
The ‘smart’ tachograph is coming this year as well.
DVSA will be able to find out where you have been via GPS in real time. It will also allow the plod to remotely check for infringements.
So they no longer have to stop you to check if you have been naughty.
These new tachos will be fitted on all new trucks after March 2019.
Wrong on all counts, I’m afraid.
Compulsory on vehicles first registered after 15 June this year.
GPS will record position when drivers card is inserted & removed. Position will also be recorded on the drivers’ card every three hours…but only if the driver has a new-type card.
The only remote check is a signal generated by the tacho in response to a signal from a mobile enforcement point if the vehicle is moving but there is no card or the tacho is not recording the movement. This signal is not legal evidence. The authorities have to stop the truck and obtain evidence of any offence ie tampering, just as they have to with any tacho.
Tachograph data cannot be accessed remotely by the authorities.
All this info is direct from Continental VDO…who make the tachos.
adam277:
The ‘smart’ tachograph is coming this year as well.
DVSA will be able to find out where you have been via GPS in real time. It will also allow the plod to remotely check for infringements.
So they no longer have to stop you to check if you have been naughty.
These new tachos will be fitted on all new trucks after March 2019.
Wrong on all counts, I’m afraid.
Compulsory on vehicles first registered after 15 June this year.
GPS will record position when drivers card is inserted & removed. Position will also be recorded on the drivers’ card every three hours…but only if the driver has a new-type card.
The only remote check is a signal generated by the tacho in response to a signal from a mobile enforcement point if the vehicle is moving but there is no card or the tacho is not recording the movement. This signal is not legal evidence. The authorities have to stop the truck and obtain evidence of any offence ie tampering, just as they have to with any tacho.
Tachograph data cannot be accessed remotely by the authorities.
All this info is direct from Continental VDO…who make the tachos.
I hope this puts your mind at rest.
Not really. Don’t care if it’s may or June so I’ll take your word on that.
Enforcement vehicles will be fitted with a Remote Early Detection Communication Reader which will be able to read data remotely from a passing digital tachograph. It will no longer be necessary for LGVs to be stopped for basic tachograph data to be read.
Using a REDCR , enforcement authorities such as the police and DVSA will be able to capture information such as security breaches, the absence of a valid card and the speed recorded by the tachograph while the LGV is still in motion. They will be able to detect and time adjustment data, the most recent calibration date and a host of other details. The smart tachograph itself will be able to tell if the driver card inserted is the most recent card issued to that driver.
So the point I’m making is it will be a lot easier for the plod to fine us if we do happen to make a mistake.
So in theory if you overspeed in a truck going downhill surely in theory they could check and have proof that you went over 60mph?
Assuming you have a new card and tacho and unit despite not seeing you speed?
Sounds like DVSA ■■■■■■■■■ come true.
Either way it ■■■■■.
Imagine If DVSA done this around Dartford crossing be a right cashcow.
commonrail:
I’ve never been fined.
Started on 7.5’s…30 years ago,and pulled every stroke in the book.
Are we getting a bit paranoid?
This. I’ve had just one, entering a box junction which was on the roundabout at the top of the Tyne Tunnel when I was already on the roundabout trying to continue during rush hour. A car at the entrance in front of me decided to drive into the truck length gap at the other side of the box junction as I was driving across it.
adam277:
o the point I’m making is it will be a lot easier for the plod to fine us if we do happen to make a mistake.
So in theory if you overspeed in a truck going downhill surely in theory they could check and have proof that you went over 60mph?
Assuming you have a new card and tacho and unit despite not seeing you speed?
Sounds like DVSA ■■■■■■■■■ come true.
But they can already do that if they download the tacho head. I got a wad of paperwork to sign from work on the 64 plate DAFs we drive which said I’d done 97kph for however many metres, my average speed had been 95kph over a kilometre and warning me I could have got 3 points which is a load of crap. Same paperwork gave me a warning I could have got 3 points for doing 96kph max speed with a 96kph average over a kilometre which is definitely a load of crap.
