Davyboy:
7 hours done,well,more like 6,fell asleep after dinner (wasn’t the only one!)total crock o [zb],lost a days work but scottish government paying for course,they could be spending the money on something useful
How did you manage that?
what? falling asleep,its easy,i do it nearly evryday 
Try again, the freebie
oh right .heard on the grapevine last year there was free money from some scottish gov fund to help with dcpc,foned up local training co,went down one saturday morning,spent an hour filling in forms,6 weeks later £1000 was bunged into my business account (have my own limited company) cannae mind name of scheme,dunno if its still running,they did say at the time that the funds in the pot were limited and it would be 1st come,1st served.
Hours done = 0
FarnboroughBoy11:
He said if there is an accident on say the M25 and the police close it and your sitting there stationary for an hour and the digi display records “other work” you should make a manual recording of “driving” as your still in control of the vehicle on a public highway. If the police open it again and VOSA take your reg as your passing through and you continue your day in the manner that you spent that hour under “other work” instead of “driving time” then they turn up at your base they will do you for falsification.
Total ■■■■■■■■. You could, for example, recline the seat and have a nap or read a book in which case it would tick all the boxes for this -
REGULATION (EC) No 561/2006, Article 4 (d) ‘break’ means any period during which a driver may not
carry out any driving or any other work and which is used exclusively for recuperation;
He shouldn’t be teaching tacho stuff as he clearly doesn’t know basic stuff, such as what constitutes driving for the tacho regulations.
REGULATION (EC) No 561/2006, Article 4 (j) ‘driving time’ means the duration of driving activity recorded:
– automatically or semi-automatically by the recording equipment as defined in Annex I and Annex IB
of Regulation (EEC) No 3821/85, or– manually as required by Article 16(2) of Regulation (EEC) No 3821/85;
Article 16(2) of Regulation (EEC) No 3821/85 mentioned above with regard to manual entries is what to do in the event of the equipment or drivers card being unserviceable or malfunctioning and nothing to do with being stuck in a traffic jam.
Following his advice could lead to an offence of falsifying tachograph records, an offence which if found guilty of could carry up to 2 years imprisonment. 
Of course the biggest clue this bloke was talking ■■■■■■■■ is that when making a manual entry on a digital tachograph you have three modes to choose from for the entry you are making, Break, Other Work and POA, you cannot enter driving as a manual entry.
Davyboy:
oh right
Jeez thanks Davy, are you sure you didn’t fall asleep before the course
pete-b:
Davyboy:
oh rightJeez thanks Davy, are you sure you didn’t fall asleep before the course
wouldn’t have made much difference,for all i “learned” 
as stated b4 total load o pish
Hours done=14
Useful=85%+
Cost= the company paid, it’s done in 7 hour increments every year up 'til 2014, and I believe that it continues ad infinitum.
papermonkey:
Hours done=14
Useful=85%+
Cost= the company paid, it’s done in 7 hour increments every year up 'til 2014, and I believe that it continues ad infinitum.
yep,the training companies must be laughing all the way to the bank,a guaranteed source of income for the rest of their days and make no mistake,at the moment all you have to do is attend,before long i bet there will be a pass or fail exam involved.The clowns in power who dream these schemes up cant leave things alone,they have to think up more ways to separate us from our money 
not a thing yet 
Hours done = 35 hours
Useful = 75% I managed to tie some of it into my class 1 training, which was very helpful.
Cost = Quite a bit!
A slightly different take…
DCPC hours taught = approx 1,000
Hours credited to my own DCPC hours account = 0 (That’s an exact figure.)
I ‘attended’ but got no hours, … you guys are rightly ■■■■■■ off, but please spare me a thought.
Oh and BTW, I haven’t got the option of falling asleep AND I have to do the paperwork too. 
dieseldave:
A slightly different take…DCPC hours taught = approx 1,000
Hours credited to my own DCPC hours account = 0 (That’s an exact figure.)
I ‘attended’ but got no hours, … you guys are rightly ■■■■■■ off, but please spare me a thought.
Oh and BTW, I haven’t got the option of falling asleep AND I have to do the paperwork too.
Now Now Dave take a deep breath and say "It is a beautiful day and I love my job. "
Hours completed:- Bugger All.
ADR & HIAB up for renewal in 2013 though so no worries yet.
(Edit to add: If things don’t improve, I’ll have to fork out for it my farkin’ self!)
Mind you, come 2014, every Tom ■■■■ & Harry will have these by then.
Done 7 hours at the companies expense.
Hours done = 7
Useful 0% - 100% = 0.01%
Cost to self = Nothing or I’d have asked for the money back
On the plus side the coffee was free and I got two days away from work, hence the 0.01% usefulness 
nickb67:
Hours completed:- Bugger All.ADR & HIAB up for renewal in 2013 though so no worries yet.
(Edit to add: If things don’t improve, I’ll have to fork out for it my farkin’ self!)Mind you, come 2014, every Tom ■■■■ & Harry will have these by then.
Hi Nick,
Just a thought on your ADR refresher…
If you do an ADR refresher, you only get 7 DCPC hours, but if you do an initial ADR (sitting as a refresher candidate) you get at least 21 DCPC hours and the course proceeds at a more comfortable pace.
Just for comparison… an ADR refresher takes approx 50% of the time that an initial ADR takes, but the info is the same in amount, so it comes at you twice as quick.
The other advantages are that you have more time to sink in the info for your ADR exams, and you only need find another 14 hours for DCPC.
Brentanna:
Now Now Dave take a deep breath and say "It is a beautiful day and I love my job. "
Hi Brentanna,
I do, I do, I do, BUT it really gets to me that I’ve totally met their ZB criteria for ‘attendance’ but I get absolutely ZB all DCPC hours. How ZB perverse is that? Grrr!!
dieseldave:
Brentanna:
Now Now Dave take a deep breath and say "It is a beautiful day and I love my job. "Hi Brentanna,
I do, I do, I do, BUT it really gets to me that I’ve totally met their ZB criteria for ‘attendance’ but I get absolutely ZB all DCPC hours. How ZB perverse is that?
This is a government act or regulation that requires these errrrr refresher courses right ?
We all know how totally logical all government mandated things are. Need I say more.
Actually I will maybe this is something you can nicely bring to their attention that it is not fair to the people instructing the stuff if they dont get any credit for the hours they put in , for the DCPC.
Brentanna:
dieseldave:
Brentanna:
Now Now Dave take a deep breath and say "It is a beautiful day and I love my job. "Hi Brentanna,
I do, I do, I do, BUT it really gets to me that I’ve totally met their ZB criteria for ‘attendance’ but I get absolutely ZB all DCPC hours. How ZB perverse is that?
This is a government act or regulation that requires these errrrr refresher courses right ?
We all know how totally logical all government mandated things are. Need I say more.Actually I will maybe this is something you can nicely bring to their attention that it is not fair to the people instructing the stuff if they dont get any credit for the hours they put in , for the DCPC.
Absolutely not fair ,just so unfair.
Brentanna:
This is a government act or regulation that requires these errrrr refresher courses right ?
Hi Brentanna,
Yes, that’s correct.
Brentanna:
We all know how totally logical all government mandated things are. Need I say more.
Nope, point taken. 
Brentanna:
Actually I will maybe this is something you can nicely bring to their attention that it is not fair to the people instructing the stuff if they dont get any credit for the hours they put in , for the DCPC.
There wouldn’t be any point, because they wouldn’t listen when we first tried pointing this out to them when the consultation for this DCPC nonsense came out two(ish) years ago.
You probably wouldn’t believe the real travesty about this, but here goes…
In the case of ADR (hazmat,) the providers (not me) have to pay the same Govt. dept. TWICE for the for the dubious privilege of their course approval, and the guys here think that the providers are raking in the cash, or the other complete myth doing the rounds is that the providers invented the DCPC.