I would imagine the onus would be on the haulage company to prove that they had taken resasonable measures to check out that particular person, CRB, references & regular licence checks etc. I think if you had done this and the lie had not come to light then I think the insurance company would find it difficult to not pay the claim. However, we all know if an insurance company can get away without paying then they will.
How can you idiots who condone drink driving live with yourselves?
The lowest scumbags on the road get behind the wheel when ■■■■■■■ Will you condone them when your wives/ kids whatever, become the victims?
For Christ’ sake! 
Nobody is condoning it, the OP asked a specific question about the consequences of his conviction and did not, as far as I can see, invite comment about his moral rectitude. 
Harry Monk:
Nobody is condoning it, the OP asked a specific question about the consequences of his conviction and did not, as far as I can see, invite comment about his moral rectitude.
The one’s who accuse people of getting on their high horses maybe!? 
Also, as someone else pointed out, you can easily get a drink driving ban on a Monday morning after a good night out on a Saturday night.
Do you ever breathalise yourself before going out?
Also, some mouthwash and other stuff can give a positive reading on a breathaliser, not sure if it’d go any further though, blood or urine tests?
waynedl:
Also, as someone else pointed out, you can easily get a drink driving ban on a Monday morning after a good night out on a Saturday night.Do you ever breathalise yourself before going out?
Also, some mouthwash and other stuff can give a positive reading on a breathaliser, not sure if it’d go any further though, blood or urine tests?
Hmmm, you would have to drink a heroic amount on a Saturday night to still be over the limit on a Monday morning… as a very rough rule of thumb it takes two hours for the body to rid itself of a pint of medium strength beer.
Mouthwash can affect a breathalyser but the Police are not supposed to breathalyse you within 20 minutes of using it, and even if you failed the roadside test you would not fail the test at the Police station if you had used mouthwash since it only remains in the cells in the mouth for 7-8 minutes, neither would it show in a blood or urine test.
Harry not necessarily as ( & yep have said before on here ) my gran was killed by a drunk driver on 4th Jan 1972 he was still over from partying 2 days before
He did get a 6 week suspended sentence but this was back then we have moved on
But if the o/p would like to talk about the consequences or anyone else then pm me
bigvern1:
How can you idiots who condone drink driving live with yourselves?
The lowest scumbags on the road get behind the wheel when ■■■■■■■ Will you condone them when your wives/ kids whatever, become the victims?
For Christ’ sake!
I won’t condone drink driving and will willingly condemn drunk driving, but I will not get hysterical over a subject that has been hyped up to provide a good ongoing story for the media and an excuse for the police
I believe that the alcohol limit is too low and I’m not prepared to say otherwise just to pacify hysterical people who feel that their views must be right and anyone who disagrees with them must wrong, anyone who feels so strongly about the subject would do well to argue their case with facts rather than insults and hysteria.
The simple fact is that most people who are killed or maimed on our roads are not victims of drink drivers, many are the victims of reckless or dangerous drivers yet we don’t see the same degree of outrage when a child is killed because some moron decided to drive in a reckless manner, well not unless the media decide to whip up a frenzy over it anyway
I’m quite willing to respect the views of people who are outraged by drink drivers, I’m not prepared to respect the almost hysterical condemnation that always goes with the subject.
I think Im with you on this one Tachograph. Someone killing or badly injuring someone while drunk should be banned for life. When not involved in an accident and when just fractionally over such a low level as we have its a different matter. A driver I worked with set out one Monday morning thinking hed be all right having stopped drinking Sunday dinner. He came upon an accident, a driver had smashed through a roundabout, stopped and pulled the unconscious driver out, put him in the recovery position and stayed with him till the ambulance arrived. As he was telling the ambulance man what hed done policeman insisted he did a breath test, he told him he wasnt involved in the accident but he was still breathalyzed He was 2 points over the limit, he lost his license for a year, the judge even said he didnt deserve to lose it but his hands were tied.
ddrbsn:
I think Im with you on this one Tachograph. Someone killing or badly injuring someone while drunk should be banned for life. When not involved in an accident and when just fractionally over such a low level as we have its a different matter. A driver I worked with set out one Monday morning thinking hed be all right having stopped drinking Sunday dinner. He came upon an accident, a driver had smashed through a roundabout, stopped and pulled the unconscious driver out, put him in the recovery position and stayed with him till the ambulance arrived. As he was telling the ambulance man what hed done policeman insisted he did a breath test, he told him he wasnt involved in the accident but he was still breathalyzed He was 2 points over the limit, he lost his license for a year, the judge even said he didnt deserve to lose it but his hands were tied.
Should’ve refused the breathaliser, no reason to do 1, not in a car, not involved in an accident etc, chances are though he’d have been pulled over 20yrds down the road for a ‘spot check’.
I also agree with Tacograph, some people can easily handle more alcohol than others, and I’m not talking about ‘I can drink you under the table etc’.
There was a tv special a while back with that guy who used to do Police Stop or whatever it was called, and he had 4 or 5 people, some booze, a breathaliser and a driving simulator.
1 of the people was over the limit with her 1st drink, could drive fine, 1 of the people had loads to drink, could barely walk, was still under the ‘legal limit’ and had ■■■■■■ the driving up several times and still had more to drink, more breath tests, still under, ■■■■■■ up driving again etc.
It’s a typical 1 glove fits all response that we have in this country, I know it’s difficult to do things any other way, but that doesn’t make it right.
I’m 1 of those people that can have around 4 or 5 and still show under the limit, but I can’t and wouldn’t dream of driving in that state, but my brother who is bigger and heavier shows over the limit after a pint of bitter, so it’s not even about body size or anything.
Wheel Nut:
Harry Monk:
I wondered how long it would be before someone rode in on a high horse.
Let him who is without sin, cast the first stone
well that counts me out from any stone throwing. 
That bloke on Police Camera Action got done for drink driving.
Alistair Stewart was it?
Wheel Nut:
That bloke on Police Camera Action got done for drink driving.Alistair Stewart was it?
He’s been done for it twice…
Alastair Stewart gets drink-driving ban
By Stewart Payne12:01AM BST 02 Jul 2003
Alastair Stewart, the newsreader and presenter of Police, Camera, Action, was banned from the road and fined £2,000 yesterday after his second conviction for drink-driving.
Magistrates were told that Stewart, who was almost three times over the drink-drive limit when arrested last month, had been dropped from the ITV programme, which features video footage of criminal activity on the roads.
waynedl:
Should’ve refused the breathaliser, no reason to do 1, not in a car, not involved in an accident etc,
In charge of a motor vehicle would be enough, no need to actually be behind the wheel.
mrpj:
waynedl:
Should’ve refused the breathaliser, no reason to do 1, not in a car, not involved in an accident etc,In charge of a motor vehicle would be enough, no need to actually be behind the wheel.
He wasn’t though, if he was out of the vehicle helping others, I’d have kicked up a stink and headed on my way on foot, that car was there when I got here 
Some right jobsworths around, so in future, if someone’s in trouble, just leave them or you’ll join them.
waynedl:
mrpj:
waynedl:
Should’ve refused the breathaliser, no reason to do 1, not in a car, not involved in an accident etc,In charge of a motor vehicle would be enough, no need to actually be behind the wheel.
He wasn’t though, if he was out of the vehicle helping others, I’d have kicked up a stink and headed on my way on foot, that car was there when I got here
Some right jobsworths around, so in future, if someone’s in trouble, just leave them or you’ll join them.
I thought the police still needed a reason to breathalyse you, has that changed ?
bigvern1:
Harry Monk:
Nobody is condoning it, the OP asked a specific question about the consequences of his conviction and did not, as far as I can see, invite comment about his moral rectitude.The one’s who accuse people of getting on their high horses maybe!?
still driving that wreck from devon
Alcpone:
How long have you had your class C for?If its under 2 years I think you have to resit test, could be wrong though.
my class c is only 4 months old, i was caught when im driving my car
Wheel Nut:
altitude:
FarnboroughBoy11:
I would have thought that’s the least of your worries. Finding a job after the ban will be hard part I would of thought.I think your right there, I have a mate who had a DD ban, he’s out of it now but can’t get a job, everywhere he tries says the insurance will be to high, he’s now offering to pay the difference but still can’t get a start.
Agencies are quite ■■■■ about DD, but most companies would turn a blind eye after 5 years, just like insurance companies.
i agree too, even with a clean licence its hard so how much more with with dd ban…
jdperez2003:
Alcpone:
How long have you had your class C for?If its under 2 years I think you have to resit test, could be wrong though.
my class c is only 4 months old, i was caught when im driving my car
I don’t really want to get into the rights and wrongs of drink driving, but can I ask you, what on earth made you drink and drive? You obviously wanted to become a professional driver and now it seems not only have you wasted your time and money, but you have seriously dented your hopes of any future employment for the next 10 years possibly.
I find it hard to understand to be honest