jdperez2003:
so I got my licence back now, though its dirty now as it has this dr70 endorsement without penalty points (I wander, im expecting at least 4 points there)
i know its hard or i have no chance getting a job but if i will decide to try in the near future
i passed my cat C and also cpc modules 1 and 2 on feb 2010, is my cpc 1 and 2 still valid?
I can’t answer your question but you should be able to get information from the phone number below which I found here.
you’ll probably be pulled in front of your traffic commissioner,but i know someone whos been done for dd twice and still got his,i got done for dangerous driving,got a 12 month ban,had to resit extended car test then a visit to traffic commissioner,got a stern warning but got to keep my class 1
FarnboroughBoy11:
I would have thought that’s the least of your worries. Finding a job after the ban will be hard part I would of thought.
I think your right there, I have a mate who had a DD ban, he’s out of it now but can’t get a job, everywhere he tries says the insurance will be to high, he’s now offering to pay the difference but still can’t get a start.
FarnboroughBoy11:
I would have thought that’s the least of your worries. Finding a job after the ban will be hard part I would of thought.
I think your right there, I have a mate who had a DD ban, he’s out of it now but can’t get a job, everywhere he tries says the insurance will be to high, he’s now offering to pay the difference but still can’t get a start.
Agencies are quite ■■■■ about DD, but most companies would turn a blind eye after 5 years, just like insurance companies.
I had a good friend killed by a drunk driver, he didn’t even do 6 months in prison and 18 months after he got out he was driving again, I think drunk drivers should be banned for life end of. You don’t deserve to be called a professional driver and I hope no one will touch you for the full 10 years, drunk drivers are one of the many scum of our society, moral high horse or not it is my opinion and I’m entitled to it.
I only do temp/agency work so go to the job centre a few times and iv only seen 1 job saying DD can apply.
6 points seem the max these days.
There have been 3 or 4 times iv seen jobs that allow 9 points — these seem to be the ‘dirty’ jobs
/ skips /quarry/agriculture/tippers/etc
Gary5321:
You don’t deserve to be called a professional driver and I hope no one will touch you for the full 10 years, drunk drivers are one of the many scum of our society, moral high horse or not it is my opinion and I’m entitled to it.
The op never said he was a drunk driver.
Being drunk whilst driving is not necessary the same as driving after having a drink, with the limit so low it doesn’t take much alcohol to put most people over the limit, doesn’t necessarily mean they’re not capable of driving in a reasonably safe manner though
We had a lad apply for a driving job at our place. He told us he had been in prison for causing death by dangerous driving. He had fallen asleep at the wheel. He had later been diagnosed with sleep aponea. Somebody will probably correct me, but my (limited) understanding is that this is where somebody stops breathing momentarily when they fall into a deeper sleep, and so the body half wakes up to jolt them into breathing again. The sufferer doesn’t necessarily know they’ve got the condition, they just feel very tired, even though they think they’ve had seven hours sleep. Ironically, I have read that it is apparently more common amongst professional drivers than amongst those with other jobs.
Anyway, we heard the chap’s story, saw how remorseful he seemed, and heard that his condition was now all sorted out, he had been signed off by a doctor as OK to drive, and given his HGV licence back (at tribunal I think he said). He was desperate to work, said how grateful he would be for a chance to prove himself, and believe it or not he won us over. Afterall he didn’t have to tell us the story, though perhaps it would have come out when we looked into references.
Our insurance company wouldn’t even consider it. Wouldn’t even give us a price. Just a straight ‘No’. Does this encourage people with convictions of one type or another to lie though, and just not tell their potential employer, and hope they don’t get found out? What is the position then if they have an accident and the insurance company finds out after? Do they say that the employer (the innocent party in all this) has to cough up as the insurance is void due to non-disclosure? It would be interesting to get an insurance view on this sort of thing. (Sorry if you feel this is a little off topic).
If you fail to disclose a conviction whether it is spent or not you could face criminal proceedings(depending on the role you are applying for). You would be charged with Obtain Pecunairy Advantage. My main job is in the criminal justice sector, you would be suprised to find out how often people are caught out telling fibs on their application forms. Some people try and change jobs shortly after conviction(especially Theft From Employer) and they hope it does not show up on the CRB, however, some companies do rolling CRB checks(every couple of years). The conviction then comes to light and the Police are called in. In my experience I have seen all sort of disposals for this offence ranging from Conditional Discharge to an Unpaid Work Requirement of upto 200 hours. All depends on how bad the fib was and if the Magistrate had his coffee that morning I would imagine if a driver had an accident and was found to have lied to gain insurance then the above would apply.
Fileep:
If you fail to disclose a conviction whether it is spent or not you could face criminal proceedings(depending on the role you are applying for). You would be charged with Obtain Pecunairy Advantage. My main job is in the criminal justice sector, you would be suprised to find out how often people are caught out telling fibs on their application forms. Some people try and change jobs shortly after conviction(especially Theft From Employer) and they hope it does not show up on the CRB, however, some companies do rolling CRB checks(every couple of years). The conviction then comes to light and the Police are called in. In my experience I have seen all sort of disposals for this offence ranging from Conditional Discharge to an Unpaid Work Requirement of upto 200 hours. All depends on how bad the fib was and if the Magistrate had his coffee that morning I would imagine if a driver had an accident and was found to have lied to gain insurance then the above would apply.
That’s interesting Fileep, thanks for that. So that’d sort the perpetrator out (in theory). But would the insurance still cough up so that the haulier didn’t go bust for something that wasn’t his fault?
Persoanlly, I think all night shift workers should be banned for life.
Researchers at Utrecht University in the Netherlands found that driving for just three hours at night was similar to being intoxicated, and even two hours after dark was like being buzzed.
In conducting the test, the researchers had 14 men, aged 21 to 25, drive under supervision at night from 3 a.m. until 5 a.m., 1 a.m. until 5 a.m. and 9 p.m. until 5 a.m. They were to drive at a constant speed of 80 mph while staying centered in the lane. Their performance was monitored and recorded, and deviations from the center line measured.
The academics, led by Dr. Joris C. Verster, found remarkable parallels with drunk driving. Two hours of nighttime driving resulted in the same errors experienced with a blood alcohol content of 0.05. Performance was on par with a BAC of 0.08 percent after three hours. And 4.5 hours at the wheel in the dark was akin to 0.10 percent.
