Double man drivers

Can I work a 65-70hr week if I am part of a double manned crew and knock my poa off

Stokie1976:
Can I work a 65-70hr week if I am part of a double manned crew and knock my poa off

What do you mean by knocking off the POA ?

Sorry I mean, when I’m in the passages seat I can log that as poa because its long distance and I think I can knock poa off my WTD

Stokie1976:
Sorry I mean, when I’m in the passages seat I can log that as poa because its long distance and I think I can knock poa off my WTD

I thought you meant that but did not want to assume

Should be easy enough to rack up a load of ‘duty hours’ leagally every week under MM rules …

Example -
mon 0600 to tue 0300 = 21 hrs
tue 1200 to wed 0900 = 21 hrs
wed 1800 to thu 1500 = 21 hrs
fri 0000 to fri 2100 = 21 hrs
Off from fri 2100 to mon 0600 = 57 hours full weekly rest

total of 84 hours duty time every week but if the work/driving is about half of that then its less than the 48 hour RTD average

Stokie1976:
Can I work a 65-70hr week if I am part of a double manned crew and knock my poa off

Legally you can do 60 hours working time in a fixed week, neither breaks nor POA count as working time, so if you put the tachograph on POA whilst in the passenger seat of a multi-manned vehicle it won’t count towards the 60 hours working time.

So the answer to your question is “yes you could easily do more than 70 hours a week by using POA and/or breaks if you want to”.

tachograph:

Stokie1976:
Can I work a 65-70hr week if I am part of a double manned crew and knock my poa off

Legally you can do 60 hours working time in a fixed week, neither breaks nor POA count as working time, so if you put the tachograph on POA whilst in the passenger seat of a multi-manned vehicle it won’t count towards the 60 hours working time.

So the answer to your question is “yes you could easily do more than 70 hours a week by using POA and/or breaks if you want to”.

It will go on POA by default when the vehicle is moving for slot 2, I have getting on for 4 hours POA each night that way. I do around 40 - 45 hours a week on a double manned shift and getting on for half of it is POA, although every second week when I drive the northbound leg the first 45 minutes of POA each night is assumed to be break but recorded as POA.

Coffeeholic:

tachograph:

Stokie1976:
Can I work a 65-70hr week if I am part of a double manned crew and knock my poa off

Legally you can do 60 hours working time in a fixed week, neither breaks nor POA count as working time, so if you put the tachograph on POA whilst in the passenger seat of a multi-manned vehicle it won’t count towards the 60 hours working time.

So the answer to your question is “yes you could easily do more than 70 hours a week by using POA and/or breaks if you want to”.

It will go on POA by default when the vehicle is moving for slot 2, I have getting on for 4 hours POA each night that way. I do around 40 - 45 hours a week on a double manned shift and getting on for half of it is POA, although every second week when I drive the northbound leg the first 45 minutes of POA each night is assumed to be break but recorded as POA.

I wasn’t sure sure if the OP was using a digital tachograph or an analogue one :wink:

Sounds like you’ve got a cushy number there :slight_smile:

tachograph:

Coffeeholic:

tachograph:

Stokie1976:
Can I work a 65-70hr week if I am part of a double manned crew and knock my poa off

Legally you can do 60 hours working time in a fixed week, neither breaks nor POA count as working time, so if you put the tachograph on POA whilst in the passenger seat of a multi-manned vehicle it won’t count towards the 60 hours working time.

So the answer to your question is “yes you could easily do more than 70 hours a week by using POA and/or breaks if you want to”.

It will go on POA by default when the vehicle is moving for slot 2, I have getting on for 4 hours POA each night that way. I do around 40 - 45 hours a week on a double manned shift and getting on for half of it is POA, although every second week when I drive the northbound leg the first 45 minutes of POA each night is assumed to be break but recorded as POA.

I wasn’t sure sure if the OP was using a digital tachograph or an analogue one :wink:

True, it’s been so long since I used one I forgot they still exist. I can’t remember if they default to anything when the truck moves?

tachograph:
Sounds like you’ve got a cushy number there :slight_smile:

It’s okay, there are easier shifts at our place but they don’t pay the guaranteed 1.5 hours OT a night which that run does. 30, or more depending on working days, hours OT a month is hard to give up. We have one guy starts at 19:15, finishes latest 23:00, gets 8 hours and doesn’t drive for more than 90 minutes. Now that’s cushy. I did a couple of weeks before Christmas covering a run where I started at 17:30 and was on my way home by no later than midnight. It was single manned though so I had to do everything myself such as coupling up, vehicle checks, fuelling and opening trailer doors. Those duties are shared on my usual run. :wink: It’s boring as hell but it is okay.

Coffeeholic:
True, it’s been so long since I used one I forgot they still exist. I can’t remember if they default to anything when the truck moves?

the old analogue tachograph I used there was on that you had to move to drive and other modes,and then there brought the automatic ones you default mode was cross hammers or what ever you left it on before you drove and when you drove it would change to drive all other mode add to be set by the driver.

I once spent 6 week putting all the company wax tachograph though scanner, look like a printer. that was the most boring job I did for them. 1 years of tachograph for 30 drivers, would not wish it on anyone :wink: