I think you should obviously admit your error (thats what it was) but also point out your previously exemplary work record. To go straight to dismissal in my view is ott. IF there was injury or damage fair enough but there wasn’t so I’d do my best to get a final written if possible.
If you do get the push then you’re probably better off out of it - good luck!
Just goes to show we are just employee numbers.
If you’re going down the agency route then try gem premium people, they are based in peterlee & Newcastle. They supply vantec,running parts into Nissan, you might like it. 
topcat69:
I feel robbed, does anyone have any advice?
Robbed ? You could have killed me.
Procedures are there for a reason, H&S, you also have a duty of care to others, if the bay light was still on red you shouldn`t of pulled off regardless of what was said but if it was on a green light & the door was left open then that is something out of your control.
what a crock of ■■■■ , you give your keys in that is the end of moving , when you get your keys back you can move ,take em to court they broke the rules they made 
does my head in dont put procedures in place unless they are full proof ,
swayze1:
does my head in dont put procedures in place unless they are IDIOT proof ,
ftfy
BillyHunt:
zeddman:
animal:
Unfortunately that is Nissan for youUp in the north east ,nissan is were we put all our bad mannerd ,miserable nobheads
Or mackems as i prefer to call them
aye red and white Geordies. 
Dieseldoforme:
topcat69:
I feel robbed, does anyone have any advice?Robbed ? You could have killed me.
Robbed? So you can walk away and get another job? What about if whats in the pic happened the forkie would feel robbed? …nope coz he might be dead. The red light on a bay is the same as a traffuc light move on it and risk killing someone.
Sorry mate, but it is Gross Misconduct and you haven’t got a leg to stand on.
wheelnutt:
fredthered:
All very harsh imo. Blame culture at work here I think. Are we all not fallible at some point?How fallible do you allow a professional driver to be? He can run over a cyclist as long as he doesn’t kill him? He can pull off on red as long as he doesn’t kill the forkie? He can swipe a car with his trailer swing and hurt a child in the passenger seat as long as he doesn’t kill her?
Rules are rules, boundaries are set for a reason, we are professionals, you just don’t pull off on red, end of.
There are no excuses, no grey areas.
fredthered:
For some reason it seams that if someone can be blamed and severely dealt with, then it will never happen again.No, you just weed out those that are not cut out for this job.
I’ve been to places where the light system is broken, either not working at all or stuck on either green or red - or at least that’s what I’ve been told.
BUT, I’ve always gone and asked, if it’s red and they tell me it’s safe to go, I’ll point out that it’s still red and make sure the rear is clear, but then I will be leaving that bay on red - same as going onto the bay on red.
Is it a law that driver must hand keys in and only go on a green light?
The drivers at my place go on the dock, they wait in the cab with keys, get unloaded and then shouted to when done, sometimes we leave the doors up when its hot so its always on red and theres never been any bother?
georgy:
Is it a law that driver must hand keys in and only go on a green light?The drivers at my place go on the dock, they wait in the cab with keys, get unloaded and then shouted to when done, sometimes we leave the doors up when its hot so its always on red and theres never been any bother?
No, not law, but usually site rules and procedures.
If your site allows that to happen, then good on them, but some sites don’t, and that’s where you get these issues.
Blame culture is a dangerous thing and causes more accidents than it prevents in my opinion, but that isn’t quantifiable.
In the Western world aviation industry, accident investigations don’t seek to apportion blame, simply to identify what went wrong and provide a solution to prevent reoccurence.
Think about it. If you KNOW you’ll be dismissed for a mistake you’ve made (but nobody has noticed yet), how likely are you to own up to it so procedures can be revised accordingly? How many times has somebody been killed in circumstances that have happened previously (without consequence) due to an earlier mistake by somebody else who didn’t mention the weakness for fear of losing their livelihood?
It’s for this reason that in the judicial system, mitigating and aggravating factors are taken into account. The heaviest prices are paid for the CONSEQUENCES of your actions, not your actions alone.
Most mature industries recognise this fact - it only seems to be the unskilled/semi-skilled sectors that are so brash when it comes to threatening people with their jobs (and carrying through with the threat) for mistakes.
Javiatrix:
Blame culture is a dangerous thing and causes more accidents than it prevents in my opinion, but that isn’t quantifiable.In the Western world aviation industry, accident investigations don’t seek to apportion blame, simply to identify what went wrong and provide a solution to prevent reoccurence.
Think about it. If you KNOW you’ll be dismissed for a mistake you’ve made (but nobody has noticed yet), how likely are you to own up to it so procedures can be revised accordingly? How many times has somebody been killed in circumstances that have happened previously (without consequence) due to an earlier mistake by somebody else who didn’t mention the weakness for fear of losing their livelihood?
It’s for this reason that in the judicial system, mitigating and aggravating factors are taken into account. The heaviest prices are paid for the CONSEQUENCES of your actions, not your actions alone.
Most mature industries recognise this fact - it only seems to be the unskilled/semi-skilled sectors that are so brash when it comes to threatening people with their jobs (and carrying through with the threat) for mistakes.
Exactly.
Dipper_Dave:
Oh and make sure to use the green on the right or is it left, always confuses me this…
done that myself,i usually walk along the bays from the start saying to myself ,thats for that wagon,that ones for him/her then i come back to my wagon and realise which light is mine, as you say confusing
NewLad:
I pulled off on a red once at Soham depot, I had dropped a trailer on a bay and was told to pick up another, hooked up to the other while the warehouse lads transhipped what I’d brought down onto the half pre loaded trailer I had just hooked upto.After being given the paperwork and keys back I went to the truck, I noticed it was red so went back in to ask, the supervisor told me the dock door was down and all the warehouse staff had now gone home so it was good to go**, I said are you sure he said yes, the light must be broken, so I pulled it off,** as I did I heard an almighty bang as the load restraints clanged on the floor.
I went to the back to secure the load and shut the doors and noticed that the door to the bay was literally hanging off all smashed to bits, what had happened was the warehouse staff had trapped the door in between the handles on the bars which were attached to the trailer, as I pulled off it brought the door with it. One of the office bods said it’s ok it’s our fault we told you to go, just go and we’ll report it and deal with it all. I told him no chance I’m not going anywhere till I’ve spoken to my boss, so he phoned this supervisor who’d told me it’s ok to pull off, he confessed he’d authorised me to do it.However later he denied ever saying it and denied talking to my supervisor and tried to say I’d just left the site after doing it.
I’d not been there long and my supervisor must be well respected by the superiors at our place because they believed me and my supervisor, as for the one who’d told me to pull off I think he’s still at Soham and it all got swept under the carpet.
Needless to say I bet it cost a few grand to replace that insulated door on an emergency call out, none of it was salvageable either!
Aaaand that was your mistake! I’ve had exactly same before, and refused a supervisor/shunters order on the grounds of unreasonable request. There then stuck with having to actually fix the problem 
And to the OP: Without reading all of the comments to this thread, heres my 2cp…
Basically, it is right that you lost your job and to be expected. I know this may sound harsh, but at end of the day…
Now, put yourself in the shoes of the loaders for a minute… Sets say you are on your rider truck, loading 26 pallets onto this trailer, and you approach/leave the back of the trailer and suddenly the trailer moves away. Next thing you find yourself landing hard on the ground, rider truck and the pallet load you was moving all landing on top of you, then the driver thinks ‘oh crap’ them backs it back onto the bay, turning your broken bones into jam sandwich, Does driver dismissal still seem a little too harsh to you now?
All I would say is MTFU, dust yourself off and move along from this, and dont EVER let it happen again 
BillyHunt:
I’ve just finished with an agency running in & out of the Nissan plant. The area you hand your keys in is a cage nowhere near the door you’re on, you cannot see if it’s open or shut. The thing is if the flt driver had followed proper procedure you cannot get your keys back with the door open. All the doors have a hook on specifically to hang the drivers keys on, once the door opens you cannot get them back until it’s closed again. Having said that, on a number of occasions I have been tipped, got the keys back, and just as you’re about to pull off they open the door to check something.
I would be taking it further.
I take it you were on for fergys.
Good point and im glad you bought this to light…
A few times I’ve coupled up to a trailer, jumped in cab, green light, check mirrors, handbrake off, and pull forward while checking the light again, and just as I pull forward BOOM red light!
So how best to deal with this? Handbrake on, Storm out of your cab arms flying and yelling WHAT THE FAAAAAAAK?!?!?!?!?!? and just proper kick off on one at those whose just opened the bay when the job was booked out!
Then, go into the office and make a right loud fuss at saying what exactly has just happened, see the site manager, make a formal grievance and make sure you put it all in writing also and keep on their backs that it is dealt with and followed up!
Thats what I did, and they got sick of hearing about it, which was good because it meant that the last thing they were gonna do was to try and accuse me of doing any wrong!
truckman20:
Dipper_Dave:
Oh and make sure to use the green on the right or is it left, always confuses me this…done that myself,i usually walk along the bays from the start saying to myself ,thats for that wagon,that ones for him/her then i come back to my wagon and realise which light is mine, as you say confusing
How is it confusing?
You sit in the drivers seat and look in the drivers mirror - assuming you’re RHD and in the UK of course.
