Digi Download

Digi Download, see below.

DAFMAD:
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sorry can’t do thinks like that :stuck_out_tongue:

OK, here’s my question.
Is it a legal requirement for a company to have to download a drivers digi card ?
Probably is, no problem. but, If so what is the point of the dgi tacho saving a year or so of drivers info. Why can’t any company get the info they need from the tacho itself ?

DAFMAD:
Is it a legal requirement for a company to have to download a drivers digi card ?

From what I remember reading on this site - Yes

DAFMAD:
If so what is the point of the dgi tacho saving a year or so of drivers info. Why can’t any company get the info they need from the tacho itself ?

I’m guessing that it will only download all the info and does not have the option of partial download - but that is a guess

Is the Speed trace involved in some way ?

I think I remember reading that the speed trace isn’t actually saved to your card, but is saved in the unit - or summat such-like.

Or there’s more/different info recorded in general.

ROG:
I’m guessing that it will only download all the info and does not have the option of partial download - but that is a guess

when a company gets a digital tacho there apply for a company card and there can lock out the info on the head unit and only that firm can read it so each company you work for would need to download it as long as you offer to have it downloaded it then down to them to download it

DAFMAD:
OK, here’s my question.
Is it a legal requirement for a company to have to download a drivers digi card ?

Yes the transport operator has a legal obligation to download the data from both the driver card and the VDU.

DAFMAD:
If so what is the point of the dgi tacho saving a year or so of drivers info. Why can’t any company get the info they need from the tacho itself ?

Well for one thing downloading the data from the VDU won’t tell a company if a driver has been driving a different vehicle for another company in his/her rest periods.

The data from the VDU is required to check that no-one has been driving without using a driver card.

If you think about it that way I think you’ll see that the whole process makes perfect sense :wink:

You can’t take a truck kicking and screaming to court to prosecute it :wink:

However a personal digital record…

DAFMAD:
OK, here’s my question.
Is it a legal requirement for a company to have to download a drivers digi card ?

Hi DAFMAD, The short answer to your question is: Yes, it is a legal requirement arising from 561/2006 Article 10(5)(a)(i) :

  1. (a) A transport undertaking which uses vehicles that
    are fitted with recording equipment complying with
    Annex IB of Regulation (EEC) No 3821/85 and that
    fall within the scope of this Regulation, shall:

(i) ensure that all data are downloaded from the
vehicle unit and driver card as regularly as is
stipulated by the Member State and that
relevant data are downloaded more frequently
so as to ensure that all data concerning
activities undertaken by or for that undertaking
are downloaded;

The UK, being a member state, stipulates a period of 28 days (in a separate UK Regulation :wink: ) in the case of downloading data from a driver card.

:open_mouth: A transport undertaking who fail to download from a driver-card are risking a potential penalty of up to a £5,000 fine. :open_mouth:

DAFMAD:
Probably is, no problem. but, If so what is the point of the dgi tacho saving a year or so of drivers info. Why can’t any company get the info they need from the tacho itself ?

The short answer to this is that I don’t know, but I wouldn’t venture into the ‘how’ and ‘why’ of legal requirements, because this IMHO is likely to lead to confusion caused by speculation. :smiley:

Thanks for those answers.
Here’s another question -

When a drivers card is downloaded, is that data erased from the card to the time that it was downloaded ? I hope that makes sense.

DAFMAD:
Thanks for those answers.
Here’s another question -

When a drivers card is downloaded, is that data erased from the card to the time that it was downloaded ? I hope that makes sense.

NO - the data on the card stays on the card until overwritten

DAFMAD:
Thanks for those answers.
Here’s another question -

When a drivers card is downloaded, is that data erased from the card to the time that it was downloaded ? I hope that makes sense.

No the data is not erased, and the digital card will hold much more than 28 days data, but as Dave said, it is a legal requirement to download the data.

28 days for driver cards,

56 days for the vehicle unit

DAFMAD:
When a drivers card is downloaded, is that data erased from the card to the time that it was downloaded ? I hope that makes sense.

as the others said, no it’s not erased. Think about it, if it was erased how could you produce the previous 28 days records if you were stopped the day after the download. the data will stay on your card for a long time, getting on for a year in some cases.

Just something an office person told me, and yes I did think the comment was odd, so question asked to make sure as I can’t check my own card.