You know very well what I was hinting at, you old Scrooge!
Retired Old ■■■■:
You know very well what I was hinting at, you old Scrooge!
If I gave you a ■■■■■■■ 205 you would stick it on your Rotavator and it would drag you, uncontrollable, across the allotments ■■■■■■■ up everyone’s plot then you’d get slung out of Allotment Association and I’d get the blame ! Sorry, its a Lister or nowt ! Cheers Dennis.
Carryfast:
ERF-NGC-European:
As a retiree my mileage is now very low, but I still enjoy driving. With the absurd amount motoring costs these days, if it isn’t fun it isn’t worth the carrot! I like a car that makes good progress but I also like the throb of a straight-six diesel and a 6-sp manual 'box. To that end I’ve equipped myself with a reliable second hand (slightly sporty) car with all that specification and very low mileage. It is sublime to drive. I fully expect it to see me through to the zero-diesel age by which time I should be in my late '80s. Robert
I’m seriously thinking of ditching the V12 Jag for one of these.If I can find one after the banger racers wiped out too many of them.
youtube.com/watch?v=qfyLYmXvxwY
That’s what multiples of 6 cylinders should sound like
and which only a petrol engine can provide but without the big speeds which are now a liability even on deserted French roads not an asset.
I drove one of those as a very young traffic cop, before my " career " in road transport.
Still have memories of chases in that car - it was luxurious and fast. One instance, trying to catch a Triumph TR 3 / 3a (?) after a foiled bank hold up in Sussex - I gained on the straights, he left me on the country bends - I tried to bump him but eventually my fan belt stripped off and we overheated, bubbling to a standstill and the Triumph rounded a double bend and spun into a tree. Guy in my backseat was said to have had an accident in his pants - no seatbelts in those days, just hang on tight !
Remember quite a few years ago when several companies were testing Liquefied Natural Gas - LNG, powered vehicles but nothing long term seemed to come of it. I know that Warburtons Bakeries converted many of their inter-bakery trunking trucks to LNG, identifiable by the massive tanks mounted on the chassis. At their main Bolton bakery and head office they installed gas compressors and storage tanks, which was quite a substantial financial investment. I don’t think that they run any LNG trunkers now, but DHL have that particular contract. Seem to recall that engines running on LNG ran very hot and they were spark ignition.
LPG requires spark ignition, it just isn’t successful withe compression ignition engines. I remember a firm running a few petrol engined TK’s on LPG many years ago, the engines ran very clean with no carbon build up anywhere but it all ‘died a death’ like most experiments. MEB ran many electric Bedford CF vans but again they were not replaced when renewal time came.
Pete.
Bewick:
Retired Old ■■■■:
Bewick:
Retired Old ■■■■:
I can get my hands on a few barrels of gun powder if anyone would like to join me in a little job in west London?Aye ROF but to get to the place you are talking about you will have to conform to all the “balls aching” emission requirements plus you will have been “clocked” driving into the “Zone”. So how about attempting a water borne approach ? knowing your luck your box of matches would have got damp !
I have plans to access the Westminster site in a DUKW, cunningly disguised as a tourist vehicle. All I need is about twenty Japanese chaps with cameras and we’re on our way!
P.S. I could do with a nice little NHK ■■■■■■■ for the vehicle if you know of any available?A Lister 2 cylinder maybe !
I have a 1927 Crossley if that would help !
David
gingerfold:
Remember quite a few years ago when several companies were testing Liquefied Natural Gas - LNG, powered vehicles but nothing long term seemed to come of it. I know that Warburtons Bakeries converted many of their inter-bakery trunking trucks to LNG, identifiable by the massive tanks mounted on the chassis. At their main Bolton bakery and head office they installed gas compressors and storage tanks, which was quite a substantial financial investment. I don’t think that they run any LNG trunkers now, but DHL have that particular contract. Seem to recall that engines running on LNG ran very hot and they were spark ignition.
I drove this ERF EC12 with LNG power for a day. It was Marks & Sparks multidrop work round London for the Hemel depot. It had the usual Twin-splitter and drove much the same as a diesel. It didn’t feel as torquey as the ECs I usually drove but that might have been because it had a Perkins TX and I was accustomed to ■■■■■■■■ Robert
grumpy old man:
I know my V6 diesel Jaguar is now worth about 2p. I bought it new in 2004 and it cost £33000+, It’s a good car so it’s staying and they can stuff the scrappage schemes up their jacksy. And nobody is mentioning pollution from petrol engined vehicles.
Electric cars?? well my car will do 500+ miles on a tankful of diesel, it takes about 5 minutes max. to refill it and it’s ready for another 500 miles, when electric cars can get near that…we’ll talk.
If you change your mind I will give you 3p for it…
windrush:
LPG requires spark ignition, it just isn’t successful withe compression ignition engines. I remember a firm running a few petrol engined TK’s on LPG many years ago, the engines ran very clean with no carbon build up anywhere but it all ‘died a death’ like most experiments. MEB ran many electric Bedford CF vans but again they were not replaced when renewal time came.Pete.
It’s so much better to use more expensive dirtier diesel then strangle the engine with EGR and DPF to try to clean up the results.
Dipster:
grumpy old man:
I know my V6 diesel Jaguar is now worth about 2p. I bought it new in 2004 and it cost £33000+If you change your mind I will give you 3p for it…
To be fair I’ll up the bid to 4p and then put a Chevy LS motor and a manual box in it. 
Meanwhile the zero depreciation of these more than pays for the extra fuel costs at 10,000 miles per year or less. 
5thwheel:
Aye ROF but to get to the place you are talking about you will have to conform to all the “balls aching” emission requirements plus you will have been “clocked” driving into the “Zone”. So how about attempting a water borne approach ? knowing your luck your box of matches would have got damp !
I have plans to access the Westminster site in a DUKW, cunningly disguised as a tourist vehicle. All I need is about twenty Japanese chaps with cameras and we’re on our way!
P.S. I could do with a nice little NHK ■■■■■■■ for the vehicle if you know of any available?
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A Lister 2 cylinder maybe ! PS or a Bolinder ?
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I have a 1927 Crossley if that would help !
David
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Probably better that Bewick’s Lister, David. It crosses my mind that his will be completely knackered or, more likely, he’s got a stash of them in his barn alongside all those NOS ■■■■■■■ & Gardner motors.
Bewick:
I ran a number of Merc diesels during the 80’s and 90’s mainly because of the large annual mileages I did and this is a shot of the last one I ran and the best IMHO an E300 although all the previous ones gave faultless service ! Our TM over the years ran Opel 2:1 and 2:3 D’s, a Volvo with 6cyl VW engine and a couple of Merc 240D’s the last one had the 5 cyl engine IIRC. The Fleet Engineer ran 2:1 Granada then a Taxi spec 2:5 Granada and then two new shape (jelly mould) with the 2:5D all the Ford diesels were the Peugeot engine and it was cheaper to buy spares from a Peugeot Dealer than the Ford Dealer funnily enough ! his last motor was a big Vauxhall D , just can’t remember the model name ! I had my share of big petrol engine motors in the 70’s early 80’s but I was quite happy to demonstrate I was just as frugal and economical as I expected others to be !
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Hi Dennis. The Vauxhall you are talking about was probably the Carlton with the 2.3l Opel diesel, same engine as the CF van. My father ran a Bedford long bed pick up and Cavillar with the 1.6l diesel the pick up being rear wheel drive, the car front. There was a Carlton and lhd Opel with the 2.3l. They were great work horses, did huge mileage pulling mini excavators all over the U.K.
The heaviest towable excavator was 750kg and with an extra bucket and spares in the boot and you were well loaded. Add everybody and their uncle who drove them, mostly with a heavy foot and they took a beating.
We had a Range Rover about C/D reg petrol that couldn’t live with them. Iirc the final van was a D reg Iveco 3510 with a turbo. It wasn’t the most comfortable to drive but with two machines on its back and towing another it went well.
The Carlton was comfortable and drove well for a heavy car.
You may get a laugh out of this as my cousin and I were into diesel cars well before the manufacturers were. We fitted a 1.5 l diesel out of an ex post office J4 into a real clean G reg Austin Cambridge. A Perkins P4 out of a Ford Thames van into a Ford Zephyr, but we couldn’t get it through the MOT as we couldn’t get the brakes to work properly as we couldn’t hook up the servo iirc. And last but not least a Rover, cant remember the model but the one that all the politicans had, leather seats nice, with a Recardo direct injection out of a Commer. That was the second Recardo we had this one was a little easier to start but smoked until she was hot. Usually by this time the local cops had pulled us over, especially if I was lying on the wing with the bonnet propped up pouring easy start into her running down the steepest hill we could find on a cold day. We did manage to sell them though, through the auctions, usually Tewkesbury.
Here in the States diesel cars are rare except for a few old Merc’s and the VW and Audi’s whose death wish was signed in the scandal. Shame really!
Regards Paul
Retired Old ■■■■:
Bewick:
Retired Old ■■■■:
I can get my hands on a few barrels of gun powder if anyone would like to join me in a little job in west London?Aye ROF but to get to the place you are talking about you will have to conform to all the “balls aching” emission requirements plus you will have been “clocked” driving into the “Zone”. So how about attempting a water borne approach ? knowing your luck your box of matches would have got damp !
I have plans to access the Westminster site in a DUKW, cunningly disguised as a tourist vehicle. All I need is about twenty Japanese chaps with cameras and we’re on our way!
P.S. I could do with a nice little NHK ■■■■■■■ for the vehicle if you know of any available?
Gentlemen, please. …no need for a sneaky plan when there is a fluckin great war ship with ten inch guns moored just down river…bit of TLC on the barrels on the forward turret and a salvo of HE should suffice. …I’ll leave the details to R.O.F. …
When my old Peugeot 406 HDi at 50mpg around town and 60 on a run finally expires, and if I can find a large comfortable 4 door saloon with a petrol engine that gives me the same mpg, then I’ll buy it. …But I doubt it, so it’ll be another diesel for me…
All you rich retired folks worrying about fuel consumption , sod it spend the kid’s inheritance on a car you can enjoy . I run an 11 year old Lexus hybrid , super comfy , all the bells and whistles . Serviced annually at Lexus and drives like a new car . Petrol consumption is 26 to the gallon round town and about 40 mpg on long trips , towing the caravan it’s in the teens , but so what , I love the thing and it has no screens or menus to puzzle over . My next car will probably be a disabled buggy anyway so I’ll enjoy it while I can . Dave
Reef:
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My missus has just got her last Diesel lease car. The NHS are forcing them towards Petrol which she hates. I have got a 1 litre spaz mobile on lease which I love
No need for explosives in W1, a few accusations of inappropriate behaviour should do nicely.
Good thinking, Fergie. I’m currently searching Amazon fo a decent deal on a bulk load of WD40 for those guns.
Crossroads- Don’t you think that such accusations would be water off a duck’s back? The incumbents of parliament have had plenty of practice at ignoring us plebs!
Come the revolution!!!