I understand there are several million pounds outstanding with unpaid tolls.
Last september I forgot to pay the toll in my spanish reg car en route to a ferry.Mid november I recieved a note from a debt collection agent demanding 87 euros.Still unpaid so I have a decision to make!
if its addressed to your spanish address then the only decision to make is what bin to toss it in.
Yes.Written in spanish to my spanish address.
Originated by a London based company with a german bank account.According to their website reviews they are a horrible company to deal with.
i get them constantly from a uk debt collector EPC PLC for going through the dublin toll .
its an irish company passing on your details to a uk debt collector to try and scare you into paying when they have no legal right to collect from you.
i would imagine its the same thing.
your in a different country and the uk toll will have no legal right to collect from you on the tolls behalf as they are only debt collectors on commission if your gullible…look up pepipoo for 100 similar answers.
if you reply to them in any way,then your a hooked fish and they will keep sending letters…
they usually give up after 3 or 4 really important looking ones referring to court summonses ect…just total pish.
A few years ago I used the crossing in a car I was borrowing, I’d not planned on it but traffic on top of M25 was horrendous so it made sense to return via tunnel.
As it says you have by midnight following day to pay I added the temporary vehicle to my account thinking that would take care of it, several months later the fleet department who owned the car got an enforcement notice without any previous communication. It transpires that vehicles must be registered to an account before making the crossing. In the end all it took was a phone call to the payment line, paid the £2 charge or whatever they wanted and that was the end of it. Seemed a very expensive and odd way to get that couple of quid.
The fleet department reckoned that they were a nightmare for doing that sort of thing and would often automatically go to threats of action without lesser stages first.
Might be worth a quick call to see if you can just pay the toll and make it go away.
8wheels:
Might be worth a quick call to see if you can just pay the toll and make it go away.
Nothing wrong with…
Making enquiries along those lines. I think the answer will be ‘it’s in the hands of our enforcement team, I can give you their number’.
Thing is once you start any kind of response to these types, they think they’ve got you and come at you all the more until they do get you.
Get some proper advice first from those in the know, about whether or not it IS legally binding but I’d doubt that and just ‘‘file it’’ tbh.
yourhavingalarf:
8wheels:
Might be worth a quick call to see if you can just pay the toll and make it go away.Nothing wrong with…
Making enquiries along those lines. I think the answer will be ‘it’s in the hands of our enforcement team, I can give you their number’.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
CONTACT NOBODY.
LOOKUP PEPIPOO OR NON PAYMENT OF TOLL FINE FOR A FORIEGN CAR IN THE UK.
if the ticket is from the toll,then theres nothing wrong with contacting them though id imagine it wont be,…if the ticket is from epc plc or similar to a spanish car from a spanish address,then do not contact the debt collector as they then know you are thinking of paying and will send you half the brazilian rain forest in demands and threats for payment.
they have no legal right power to enforce anything other than send threatening letters.
This has just happened to me.
Was in the UK just after Christmas, on holiday with the family, car broke down and my French insurance company provided me with a hire car,
I used the Dartford crossing and with all that was going on, family, presents, out for a meal ,etc.
forgot to pay the toll by midnight following day,
just got a letter, in French, demanding € 90.46,
must be the same German company as has been said previously
as the Bank details are for SEB Germany
IBAN number and SWIFT reference are German
if it was a legit fine to your uk reg hire car then they would have got the fine and debited your bank card or whatever before telling you…its not a fine as such,hence they are trying it on as they have no authority with someone not in the uk. same as dublin toll and uk reg cars.
as above,pepipoo is your oracle for similar cases.
They’re ■■■■■■■■■ Pay them with a photo of your arse.
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If an unpaid bill of any kind - merely got doubled, as it was demanded of one - we’d see near 100% prompt payment, since a lot of people made an honest mistake by not paying such small tolls in the first place.
By ramping it up to silly amounts with “added on fees” though - the decision a lot of people end up making is "Do I let the system rip me off, or do I chance credit ruin, and perhaps even jail should I stand up to these gangsters, aided and abetted by EU-controlled stooges to track you down, and then promply deny you any protections FROM the establishment?
Look at the “Grounds for Appeal” thing:
You don’t get a fine overturned for it being “unfair” - you have to prove it wasn’t your strawman driving the vehicle!
…meanwhile, I notice more and more cars driving about our streets with either a numberplate so dirty you can’t be read even from close up (illegal, but no cops enforcing it, no doubt because the EU has told the cops to go easy on perceived immigrant and brudder drivers, who’ve all got more rights than UK taxpayers…)
I’m even starting to see cars with no number plates on them at all - boy racer cars at that.
Once again, “No Enforcement”…
Soon we’ll only be driving about with numberplates that “represent consent to be fined”.
All it would take - is 100% enforcement at things like
“Moneybox Junctions”
or
“30.00001mph Speed Cameras”
or
“Upskirting Light Cameras” that are supposed to flash you for speeding through a junction, rather than not quite getting your arse over the line before the light has gone full red…
Shouldn’t VOSA be pulling up people on their phones, using the emergency pull-ins to make calls, breaking down in the fast lane, breaking down in tunnels, or actually driving in a manner that might cause serious harm?
Where are the police■■?
…If it is 100 Euros a pop (£87 at current exchange rates - not a coincidence) then are we really talking about 10,000 drivers who did NOT cough up - and that is the source of this “million in unpaid fines” right there?
Anyone might think that more people were getting fined than that…
It is the ones who don’t get fined in the FIRST place that get my goat - not the ones who’ve fallen foul of a system a lot of us are not even aware exists…