Hello guys our company is just introducing this new policy where we will have to display the dangerous goods limited quantity under 8 tonne sign ,
black-white-black diamond shaped board on the front of the unit and back of the trailer when delivering stuff like fireworks bleach spray cans etc. to one of the big four supermarket stores . I’m just wondering - because we deliver these things anyway for the least 8 years at least with the ambient load, did some legislation change recently what we didn’t know and should have displayed anyway or this is just some excuse for something else that they don’t tell us. I didn’t see the other supermarkets trucks have this sign. Many thanks
There’s no legislative change I’m aware of at the moment, and the LQ placard is only necessary when the vehicle is over 12T and there are more than 8T of LQs on board.
I don’t see that it’s a big deal if the company decide to display the marks when the load is under the 8T point, it’s not going to impact on your journeys, and company policies can be anything the company wants them to be. It’s potentially something to do with a stipulation from the insurer, as are those unofficially-sized markings (about 75mm square) often seen on work vans
I could well be wrong, but isn`t it a bust to display haz plates if not carrying haz goods?
Are LQs under the same regs? If so it is wrong to show those plates for no valid reason.
The reason I understood is that it might affect responses in case of an accident.
Yes, that’s a reasonable assessment, but he is carrying dangerous goods if they’re LQs, it’s just that if there’s less than 8T there’s no obligation to display the LQ placard.
Potentially they could be quite dangerous goods, but the LQ criteria on pack sizes validates this “lower cost” approach when the goods are in the appropriate sized inner container, the largest of which is 5 litres. So you could potentially have 7,999 litres of diesel in 5L containers and not need to display the placards, but you probably wouldn’t class that as not dangerous.
OK.
I was given a rollicking by the police for having a tank, non-haz, which had the partial remains of a haz sticker on it. I pleaded ignorance and stupidity… unsurprisingly they believed me…and let me off.
does the lq badge stop you going though dartford tunnel for example
I can’t see any issues listed for LQs, so it appears you’re good to go if you’re LQ placarded and on that route.
hmmm the more i look at this stuff the more i realise i have forgotten. maybe i should forget just doing tanks and retake the whole thing
No, just dig out your course notes and refresh your memory. I’m quite happy to grill you in a virtual exam via TN when you’ve had a chance to brush up 
Hello and thanks for the answers
Well I mean in a supermarket environment eg. ambient loads 26 pallets of mixed goods like pasta dog food beers water bog rolls etc. you wouldn’t carry 8t would you? Even if you add it up one box here one box there … that wouldn’t come to 8t in my opinion. Plus , you would need a detailed load plan then right ? To know how much of what you carry. To me it seems like a contract with another store other than a supermarket / like B&Q job
Thanks
thank you for the offer but we wee not allowed to keep the notes such as they were
That makes no sense whatsoever.
Good lord! Who delivered your ADR course?
From SQA’s:
ADR The Carriage of Dangerous Goods and use of Transportable Pressure Equipment
Manual of Practice
7.7 Candidates’ course notes
Candidates attending courses must be provided with course notes,*
summarising the key points of the instruction, which they can use during the
course and then take away and keep. The notes must be in written form,
durable (able to last for five years) and suitable for the candidate to use to
revise for the examinations and for reference purposes after the course is
completed.