How the ■■■■ is DAF the market leader with the bags of ■■■■■ the sell ?
Because they’re slightly better bags of ■■■■ then Mercedes and because ERF don’t make trucks any more.
Better than even MAN now as the one I drove needed asking in writing to pull away
450 XG I drive now is way better and the cab is bigger
Blue
Is your truck new and do you pay for repairs
DAF are not DAF they are a lego set assembled by Paccar.A jumble of bits (Cummins engine ,ZF transmission and various bits and pieces) assembled about 2 miles from where I live. The cabs are made by Renault in Caen in France. I used to go and pick them up for DeRooy and drop them at the assembly plant in Farington. My son in law has just come back from a jolly to Peterbuilt in Texas. He has worked at “DAF” for ten years doing what I dont know .They are subsidised by the US government the same as Tesla.They produce vehicles way under price to kill their competitors.
Cause they’re cheap. Simple.
far from cheap
The MAN was a 24 plt 520 and the DAF Is a 73 plt
As for repairs no I’m just a worker for a container company who’s part owned by Turners so they pay
Our 74 plt DAFS are having ECU problems
Well no, to me or you they ain’t cheap. But compared to the likes of Volvo, Scania, Mercs I’d say Dafs are the cheapest.
Though I stand to be corrected.
The Cummins will be an expensive optional extra, The former Daf engine now called the Paccar engine that is pushed by sales staff from all divisions of Paccar, Daf, Kenworth and Peterbilt.
By far the biggest seller is the LF light truck. This truck is a direct decendent of the Leyland Roadrunner. This truck was the reason DAF bought Leyland Trucks. They still use the Cummins engine in this vehicle. I worked for a short time at Leyland Test Centre where they appraised the LF. This involved driving the trucks round various test tracks both laden and unladen then checking for any faults that developed.Every time I took the vehicles out laden to max gross weight it snapped the rear cross member of the ladder chassis.After the fourth time the rail snapped three “engineers” from Paccar came from the plant to see me.They asked me why I thought the rear rail kept snapping and I said there was too much flex in the chassis. They said that according to their CAD “simulations” the chassis was rigid enough. Just shows you can make anything good enough on a computer screen. Far as I know the chassis has not been strengthened. Like to know where this “new” DAF engine is made. Wonder if its in China like the other Cummins units?
Fair enough, my knowledge is with the heavy end of the market. I’m not even sure if we get the LF or which lighter Dafs we get.
If you repair the new DAF XGs you will be busy 24 / 7 for the rest of your life
You get the DAF LF badged as both DAF LF and as a Kenworth K270/370. The US gets it badged as either Kenworth 270/370 and as Peterbilt 200series.
Seems we don’t get them badged as Kenworth.
In the 80s we had Brazilian VW trucks badged as Kenworth, they weren’t very successful. Kenworth has always been a premium brand here and priced accordingly.
I imagine Kenworth Australia didn’t want to devalue the brand selling cheap or inferior trucks.
We have two 72 plate XGs. Think the 530 has already had one set of injectors. The noise they make is biblical
Apparently DAF just keep running injector cleaner through them… at £300 a pop. Makes no difference whatsoever. I’m just paid to drive them though.
Do you own your own? What issues are you having?
I have only driven the older DAFs from 2800/3300 to 95s, my last one was a 02 plate Superspace.
I always found them a bloody good truck,.especially the cab from a tramper’s perspective.
But I suppose it’s like every thing else on the road these days, laden with unnecessary electronic dog sh, (to aid those who can not drive efficientlly or properly) to the point where the truck is driving the driver, instrad of vice versa.
Engines cut back and tampered with to appease the rule the roost green lunatics and their ott emissions crap.
So it sounds like another good marque/model has been f’d about with to the point of them being unfit for purpose… a sign of the times.
I think the worst thing they ever did to trucks is that abortion called the dry plate auto gearbox. An absolute disaster. The only good auto has a torque converter and an epicyclic gear train as in tugs. Why would you put a computer in charge of the bloody clutch pedal ? The amount of times Ive had to go and pull the half shaft because the bloody things stall and dont have enough air pressure to select neutral.
I could never understand the relationship DAF had with gearboxes. Their installations of Fuller boxes was poor (nearly as bad as SA) yet their ZF eco-splits were far ahead of everyone else’s installation. Then they hit auto… over to you bking!
I only ever drove a Daf once. A 2800 or 3300 with a slap over box, presumably ZF, I don’t recall any major dislikes.