Well there you go, one learns something everyday, Thank you, Regards Larry.
hiya,
Never loaded out of Carlisle London Rd Depot but fuelled up there many times in the 50s and 60s always seemed to have plenty of work but never had cause to backload off them,I was usually on route South with “firewater” and being booked into BRS Lancaster Parcels for security Carlisle wasn’t a security parking depot but have parked up there when carrying general and they booked your bed surely they must be included in one of the “busy” ■■■■■■■■ hauliers.
thanks harry long retired.
Talking off Croppers at Burnside, I used to deliver paper there from Blyth, sometimes a 5.30 am tip, I once asked if there was any chance of a load back from them, but it seemed like a very closed shop sort of company, I even said it didnt matter where the load was for, I was prepared to do it, because it was a loaded one way trip anyway, but no luck im afraid. , Regards Larry.
hi, it was for a time driven by martin brown, we worked together at sellafield before we got made redundant, martin ended up delivering kitchen units, i havent seen him for some time dont even know if he is still in ■■■■■■■■ 
Hello Youngnud, I worked with Martin in 1995 at Lex Transfleet based in Wm. Armstrong’s yard at Longtown, we then worked together a couple of years later at Rokold, Martin was doing the night trunk to Bicester from Penrith.He ended up living down there and when Wincanton bought Rokold he transferred onto the Britvic contract out of Magna Park. IIRC he ended up living with a wealthy widow from Milton Keynes 
I’ve not seen him since 1998, a cracking bloke to work with.
I assume this is the Martin Brown that drove the Flying Fish 8 wheeler Atki for Donnans , I never knew the fellow but I used to see his wagon at Workington, on several occasions, when I parked up overnight there in the 70/80s, Well if he has hit it lucky as you say, good luck to him, after hauling fish at a very fast pace he deserves it. Regards Larry
i got to know martin very well, and we,ll say nowt else, decent bloke though 
Hello
georgeking, thanks for that infomation, but I thought that it was Duncan Hill who hauled soap powder to the Supermarket RDC’s■■?
Regards
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harry_gill:
hiya,
Never loaded out of Carlisle London Rd Depot but fuelled up there many times in the 50s and 60s always seemed to have plenty of work but never had cause to backload off them,I was usually on route South with “firewater” and being booked into BRS Lancaster Parcels for security Carlisle wasn’t a security parking depot but have parked up there when carrying general and they booked your bed surely they must be included in one of the “busy” ■■■■■■■■ hauliers.
thanks harry long retired.
Like you Harry i used London Rd for refueling when i worked for the Forth, but did think the depot was worth a mention,Vic.
Lawrence Dunbar:
Talking off Croppers at Burnside, I used to deliver paper there from Blyth, sometimes a 5.30 am tip, I once asked if there was any chance of a load back from them, but it seemed like a very closed shop sort of company, I even said it didnt matter where the load was for, I was prepared to do it, because it was a loaded one way trip anyway, but no luck im afraid. , Regards Larry.
Your appraisal of Croppers is 100% spot on Larry,describing them as a “closed shop” kind of firm is being over generous mate !! Well at least for their transport department,it was run by two “cobbed” buggers ( RIP) if ever there was two !! and they became terrified of Bewick Transport I can tell you.They always seemed to make a meal out of everything especially in the workshop department,there engineer swore by RR engined Seddon’s,he hated Gardners and ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ because the hirearchy only gave him budget that stretched to a cheap spec like a Seddon!! But then again with these own account fleets running costs didn’t seem to bother them years ago as their main concern was making and selling the Product.But I can tell you that we could have done a lot better job for Croppers as well as saved them a “packet” and we would have still been doing nicely,thank you.Their operations MD knew it and told me at the time he would have us take over immediately but the "family couldn’t be persuaded,they were so set in their ways plus they were somewhat led by the two managers,despatch and fleet engineering !!! happy days,Cheers Dennis.
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Lawrence Dunbar:
Well I remember Robsons hauling Carnation Milk from General Milk Products at Dumfries, they used to run it down to Yorkshire & had something going with Campey Transport some sort of recipricol system.,also there was T,C.Brown, Intercity Transport, Hayton Coulthard, & Baxters that I worked for, Mandales Transport subed for Intercity, T.C.Brown & Robsons had one or two painted in Carnation Livery. I also recall one of TCs, Fodens caught fire on route to Aberdeen, & was written off & it was replaced with a Scammell, the driver was called Roy, that was 1967. One of Robsons lads a shunter Cliff Charlton lived at Brampton, I used to see him at Workington quite often at Siddick, I used to deliver sawdust to Sultra Ltd at Clay Flats they used to clean sheepskins, The Cally was also in the Carnation Factory. A long time ago was that all handball, they eventually palletised it, the forman a Carnation was called Jimmy Kay, he was a pheasant plucker but only on a good day, those were the good old days, Regards Larry
Larry, I may be wrong but I seem to remember that Robsons and Campeys were related by marriage, son of one to daughter
of the other. Ps not just related by Foden Fleets. 
regards kevmac47.
Aye, Dennis Walkis at Garstang we delivered paper there also, It was a funny approach road, the old C/B, was a must,a bit like Croppers at both roads in , We prefered going into Croppers in the dark, of course thats when we could park outside the factory. I recall the bloke on the gate not bieng very happy to us stay on site after they built on the bit we used to use. Happy days Larry
■■■■■■■■ gill:
Hello Bewick
Can you tell me anything about these wagons of yours■■?
■■■■■■■■ Gill
The top shot is one of our Walki Converters contract motors,in fact it was the very last new Scania I bought prior to joining the WRM Group. It was a 360 BHP 6X2 R113 that came from Keltruck,West Bromwich and it is coupled to a Boalloy 44ft Tautliner,the Scania was driven by Lennie Richards a long serving and valued driver who came to us via our takeover of K. Fell & co in 1976,he came to Fell’s on their takeover in 1964 of his origional employer J. L. ION a local Milnthorpe haulier of that time. The middle shot is just a selection of tractors, various, parked in the depot around the late 80’s.The bottom shot is IIRC a near new F10 coupled to what I think is one of our first Boalloy Tautliners.This F10 replaced an F88 OEC 16P that was written off in an accident in Sanquar,Ayrshire while on it’s way to Irvine loaded with 22ton of Libby Tall Rice Pud !! cheers Bewick.
Another Lennie Richards driven Walki motor.
an earlier Lennie Richards ERF C38.
And a final shot of a Lennie Richards driven Walki motor,this time an F reg P112 he got after the ERF shot here at a delivery in Scotland,not just sure where but it is a Paper mill that bought packaging from Walki Converters.
Hello Bewick
Thanks for that info and photos on those lorries.
But, who where Walki Converters■■?
Regards
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■■■■■■■■ gill:
Hello Bewick
Thanks for that info and photos on those lorries.
But, who where Walki Converters■■?
Regards
■■■■■■■■ Gill
Origionally the site at Garstang was the conversion factory of British Tissues who had a Mill up at Inglewhite on the Pennines,when they closed a firm called Clyde Paper from Glasgow took the Garstang site over and carried out various conversion work on paper and board,a lot of the paper they used was delivered by us from the Henry Cooke mill at Beetham.However,by late '79 Clyde were in severe financial difficulty and the only way that Cookes stood any chance of getting payed what they were owed was to take the firm over,lock stock and barrel,which they did in early '80.The name was changed to Henry Cooke Converters Ltd. and we took over all the transport work.But by chance at that time United Paper Mills of Finland were looking for an opertunity to start up their converting division,Walki Converters,in the UK.So Cookes sold the Garstang plant to UPM and,IIRC,came out of the deal with all their investment plus a handsome profit !! We then carried on as the transport contractor and Walki became one of our valued customers,the Finns were great people to deal with,they appreciated good service and were prepared to always pay very fair rates.Their main activity was putting foil and poly linings on cardboard for the food industry as well as cutting imported board reels to various sized sheets that were then palletised.The same thing that Thames/Iggusund board do.Is that enough info for you CG ? Next question then ! Cheers Bewick.
Hi Dennis,
Please don`t label me within the same batch of inquisitive ■■■■■■■■■ ( O.K. - nosey sods , if you like ! ) , but having read the list of old hauliers , I can not recollect the haulier named Eric Briggs. Where was he based , and what was his haulage , please ?
Cheers , cattle wagon man.
cattle wagon man:
Hi Dennis,
Please don`t label me within the same batch of inquisitive ■■■■■■■■■ ( O.K. - nosey sods , if you like ! ) , but having read the list of old hauliers , I can not recollect the haulier named Eric Briggs. Where was he based , and what was his haulage , please ?
Cheers , cattle wagon man.
Hiya CWM,no probs ! if you don’t ask you’ll never find out will you !! Eric Briggs was a Kendalian who had worked for the NFT in the 50’s and ( I’d only be a lad) in the early 60’s he got himself an “A” licence,probably off someone in Kendal,but I couldn’t be sure on that. His operation,if you can call it that,was running backward and forward to Manchester every other day.His outward traffic was a few drops out of Croppers and then he picked up in Manchester from a number of hauliers/clearing houses for around our area,a bit of this and a bit of that.One of his regular collections was from Kaye Goodfellow,but in the main Briggs’y was about as reliable as the weather,late starts to Manchester then he’d be trailing back at all time of night.His work gradually dried up and he’d pack in with the Albion he ran in the late 70’s I think.He knocked about in a Sherpa van for a few years doing bits and pieces then he retired and is now no longer with us.But he sure was a charachter,nothing bothered him whatever it was !! Another haulier you may not have heard of was W.Barnes of Oxenholme,his garage was that old chapel building next to the mainline bridge on the A65.Cheers Dennis.