Cross Transport in administration

Local rag saying that Cross Transport have called in administrators, is this what happens when you put all your eggs in the cut throat Amazon basket?

expressandstar.com/news/loc … istration/

They were kicked out of the Hams Hall premises last month.Don’t know where they are parking up these days.

toonsy:
Local rag saying that Cross Transport have called in administrators, is this what happens when you put all your eggs in the cut throat Amazon basket?

expressandstar.com/news/loc … istration/

In the government rag as well
thegazette.co.uk/notice/4371216

I don’t understand how a 200 trucks :117 employees ratio could ever be efficient.

stu675:
I don’t understand how a 200 trucks :117 employees ratio could ever be efficient.

Agency to…

Fill the gaps?

Drivers not on the books?

I think Amazon have slowed down a fair bit in the last year which has probably had an impact on turnover. Additionally many hauliers are heavily financed and interest rate rises may also have had a negative impact.

yourhavingalarf:

stu675:
I don’t understand how a 200 trucks :117 employees ratio could ever be efficient.

Agency to…

Fill the gaps?

Drivers not on the books?

LTD anyone?

stu675:
I don’t understand how a 200 trucks :117 employees ratio could ever be efficient.

200 vehicles reported.
Maybe, 100 units 100 trailers?

Franglais:

stu675:
I don’t understand how a 200 trucks :117 employees ratio could ever be efficient.

200 vehicles reported.
Maybe, 100 units 100 trailers?

Close enough:

Operating centre
CROSS TRANSPORT LTD, EON SITE, FARADAY AVENUE, BIRMINGHAM, B46 1TT, GB
Vehicles 100
Trailers 120

Operating centre
DSV ROAD LTD, MERCIA PARK, SWADLINCOTE, DE12 8AA, GB
Authorisation
Total Number of vehicles 20
Total Number of trailers 0

So ratio of drivers (117) to vehicles (120) is fine.

Budding TNCSI investigators might like to bookmark this url
vehicle-operator-licensing. … 1680785923

EDIT: mildly nerdy point, and one far beyone the cares of modern day “reporters” in local rags, but vehicles have to be specified on the O-licence by their registration numbers, whereas trailers do not need specification by their identity number (typically in the format “C123456”), so using “vehicle” as a descriptor should be confined to a thing with an engine in it.

Also, the 117 jobs might not all be drivers, there’s going to be some admin etc in that number

Fuzrat:

yourhavingalarf:

stu675:
I don’t understand how a 200 trucks :117 employees ratio could ever be efficient.

Agency to…

Fill the gaps?

Drivers not on the books?

LTD anyone?

They did seem to rely a lot on that…

toonsy:

Fuzrat:

yourhavingalarf:

stu675:
I don’t understand how a 200 trucks :117 employees ratio could ever be efficient.

Agency to…

Fill the gaps?

Drivers not on the books?

LTD anyone?

They did seem to rely a lot on that…

Would I be right in thinking LTD drivers could be invoicing monthly and then taking 6 weeks or more to get paid? Or is that just more common for subbies?

I’ve had to claim back lost pay once when the firm went under when I was paye, doubt there is any protection for business to business.

Most supposed LTD drivers are not properly self employed (see Statutory Document No.5) so any company using these guys might find the HMRC upsetting their apple cart big style

njl:
I’ve had to claim back lost pay once when the firm went under when I was paye, doubt there is any protection for business to business.

As I read it, cash goes first to
1 Secured creditors with a fixed charge; such as Banks holding deeds to buildings for mortgages etc. Lease holders of vehicles, if they aren`t owned outright.
2 Preferential creditors. Wages for employees.
3 Secondary preferential creditors. HMRC.
4 Secured creditors with floating charge; such as suppliers of goods.
5 Unsecured creditors; various but this group includes contractors.
6 Shareholders.

So any LTD would be way down the list.
It doesn`t matter at this stage what the management want, it is the Administrator who now will follow all the rules.

I hope no-one was using their own cards/cash to put fuel in the trucks.

Zac_A:
EDIT: mildly nerdy point, and one far beyone the cares of modern day “reporters” in local rags, but vehicles have to be specified on the O-licence by their registration numbers, whereas trailers do not need specification by their identity number (typically in the format “C123456”), so using “vehicle” as a descriptor should be confined to a thing with an engine in it.

At least they weren`t described as “200 massive juggernauts”! So some credit to the journo. :smiley:

You could say…

Small juggernaut but, I think that would be an oxymoron.

yourhavingalarf:
You could say…

Small juggernaut but, I think that would be an oxymoron.

I think you`re correct.

What is the fault Ive used in the example? I cant remember the name.
Using “massive” is redundant because all juggernauts are massive.

Franglais:

yourhavingalarf:
You could say…

Small juggernaut but, I think that would be an oxymoron.

I think you`re correct.

What is the fault Ive used in the example? I cant remember the name.
Using “massive” is redundant because all juggernauts are massive.

Yo, Franglais’…

If you want to take a break from taking every comment/reply as an affront, I’ll be happy to be offended on your behalf occasionally, if you wish.

Happy to help.

Franglais:

yourhavingalarf:
You could say…

Small juggernaut but, I think that would be an oxymoron.

I think you`re correct.

What is the fault Ive used in the example? I cant remember the name.
Using “massive” is redundant because all juggernauts are massive.

Is it…

A double negative?

I dunno lol.

Franglais:

njl:
I’ve had to claim back lost pay once when the firm went under when I was paye, doubt there is any protection for business to business.

As I read it, cash goes first to
1 Secured creditors with a fixed charge; such as Banks holding deeds to buildings for mortgages etc. Lease holders of vehicles, if they aren`t owned outright.
2 Preferential creditors. Wages for employees.
3 Secondary preferential creditors. HMRC.
4 Secured creditors with floating charge; such as suppliers of goods.
5 Unsecured creditors; various but this group includes contractors.
6 Shareholders.

So any LTD would be way down the list.
It doesn`t matter at this stage what the management want, it is the Administrator who now will follow all the rules.

The taxman and Vatman are the 1st in line to get paid