Whenever a Canadian run comes up it’s usually me they turn to around this area because I have a passport and am used to doing such runs, I do enjoy them because I can get Cadburys stuff at duty free and the pay is really good, although I get a weekly minimum anyway I usually top that if I do a run across the border. Whatever the pay for miles or the run I get $150.00 on top each time I cross the border. Here’s an example of how such pay can vary … Newark NJ to Montreal for instance is the best, it pays $750.00 and I can leave NJ, deliver Montreal and be home that night providing everything is ok with customs, a few years ago I arrived at Kraft, behind the Olympic stadium and they didn’t have room, I was stuck there for 4 days, with the detention pay my wage that week was over $2,000.00 and while there I was treated like a king, Kraft took care of me even to the stage of buying my meals etc. The second best run is Kraft in Toronto which although a longer trip pays exactly the same for some reason and the staff there are just as good, even putting me in a hotel. One of my favourites is Truro NS, which is a load of wine, 2 days each way from NYC and I get there and they do everything for me, that pays … you guessed it, $750.00.
Last week I took a load from Worcester MA to Missassauga ON which was 510 miles each way and took 2 days in total, when I got my pay advice this week and looked at the breakdown the pay was $219.00 
I queried the amount ad was told it was Cargill’s rate and they only paid one way, “So what are we supposed to do ? Just stay there ?” I replied, no wonder the drivers there refuse to take the loads, I was ok because of my weekly minimum but I would deter any of the guys who don’t get it from taking that run LOL. I noticed when I was there that a couple of Bynum tankers were sitting there empty and obviously waiting for instructions, they had bought loads from the same place, I feel sorry for those drivers as they get crap pay and no minimum.
I don’t know why, but I get instantly attracted to join a conversation when rates of pay are being mentioned for US/Canada driving jobs.
Any company in Canada paying equivalent of usd 150 for crossing the border each way, once you get your PR?
anon84679660:
I don’t know why, but I get instantly attracted to join a conversation when rates of pay are being mention for US/Canada driving jobs.
Any company in Canada paying equivalent of usd 150 for crossing the border each way, once you get your PR?
Why does, having PR, make any difference to how much you get paid crossing the border vs not having PR ?
And, no, Canadian companies don’t pay what would amount to CAN$200ish, to cross, unless you was paid by the hr and held up for 8-9 hrs.
anon84679660:
I don’t know why, but I get instantly attracted to join a conversation when rates of pay are being mention for US/Canada driving jobs.
Any company in Canada paying equivalent of usd 150 for crossing the border each way, once you get your PR?
I wouldn’t know ? I didn’t live in Canada, I don’t have a PR because I don’t need one, I live in the USA and hold a green card 
Pat Hasler:
anon84679660:
I don’t know why, but I get instantly attracted to join a conversation when rates of pay are being mention for US/Canada driving jobs.
Any company in Canada paying equivalent of usd 150 for crossing the border each way, once you get your PR?I wouldn’t know ? I didn’t live in Canada, I don’t have a PR because I don’t need one, I live in the USA and hold a green card
My daughter has a green card , this year’s big decision , to apply for citizenship or not . She’s married to an American but fiercely proud of her British roots . What would your take on that be Pat ? . Dave
neilg14:
anon84679660:
I don’t know why, but I get instantly attracted to join a conversation when rates of pay are being mention for US/Canada driving jobs.
Any company in Canada paying equivalent of usd 150 for crossing the border each way, once you get your PR?Why does, having PR, make any difference to how much you get paid crossing the border vs not having PR ?
And, no, Canadian companies don’t pay what would amount to CAN$200ish, to cross, unless you was paid by the hr and held up for 8-9 hrs.
obviously, as we all know those on TWPs can only count on getting the worst trucking jobs before getting their PRs.
So, The only people that might have a chance of getting this kind of money for crossing the border are those with PR, but I suspected even those with PRs in Canada can not get anywhere near getting paid an equivalent of USD 150 for crossing the border, so thanks Neil for confirming that.
It just shows how much better US drivers have it comparing to Canadian drivers.
anon84679660:
neilg14:
anon84679660:
I don’t know why, but I get instantly attracted to join a conversation when rates of pay are being mention for US/Canada driving jobs.
Any company in Canada paying equivalent of usd 150 for crossing the border each way, once you get your PR?Why does, having PR, make any difference to how much you get paid crossing the border vs not having PR ?
And, no, Canadian companies don’t pay what would amount to CAN$200ish, to cross, unless you was paid by the hr and held up for 8-9 hrs.obviously, as we all know those on TWPs can only count on getting the worst trucking jobs before getting their PRs.
So, The only people that might have a chance of getting this kind of money for crossing the border are those with PR, but I suspected even those with PRs in Canada can not get anywhere near getting paid an equivalent of USD 150 for crossing the border, so thanks Neil for confirming that.
It just shows how much better US drivers have it comparing to Canadian drivers.
But you just compared the money of all of the US with all of Canada over one border crossing payment.
Even that is a bit of a weak straw poll.
I could come back with oilfield driver’s earnings make Pat’s wages look like pocket money so Canada pays more, but I’d be doing the same as you.
I only mentioned border crossing payment Pat gets, as that’s what struck me the most from Pat’s post.
Other payments he gets looked very good too, to be honest.
I know, oil fields in Canada pay well, or should I say used pay well when a barrel of oil was north of usd 100, but since the oil price collapsed I suspect rock star money are not there anymore.
But then again, to earn those very high wages on oil fields you need to put a lot of very hard work in, which would make Pat’s job seem like a walk in the park, and when you compare how much Pat gets paid per hour, for doing jobs he mentioned, it might not be that far off what Canadian oil field truckers used to earn when times were good, otherwise every ■■■■ and Harry would be trucking around Fort McMurray.
HK, here’s another example, you look at the starting wages for truckers in the states, and I’m reading this week in, week out, a lot of them are paid anywhere from 18-30cpm.
Now apart from one company I’ve heard of in Canada paying 18cpm for trainees, the rest are on 38-45cpm.
Comparing the US & Canada is like apples & oranges, you have take everything into consideration, taxes healthcare etc.
You can’t even compare BC to AB, or MB to ON, or AB to NS, there is a massive difference in earnings and outgoings between Provinces let alone countries and the other problem is 99.9% of us couldn’t get in the US if we wanted to.
So, what would you consider a good company to work for in Alberta?
What pay conditions would indicate, it is a good company to work for, once you got your PR?
What pay per mile, waiting time, reset away from your depot, border crossing, loading, unloading, when truck breaks down?
Just wondering what’s out there once you get your freedom?
A few m0nths ago I read 0n canadian trucking forum, Bison paid 32 or 34c/mile if you had less then 1 year experience and that was in 2014 if I’m not mistaken
anon84679660:
So, what would you consider a good company to work for in Alberta?
What pay conditions would indicate, it is a good company to work for, once you got your PR?
What pay per mile, waiting time, reset away from your depot, border crossing, loading, unloading, when truck breaks down?
Just wondering what’s out there once you get your freedom?A few m0nths ago I read 0n canadian trucking forum, Bison paid 32 or 34c/mile if you had less then 1 year experience and that was in 2014 if I’m not mistaken
I’m hourly paid, 1 1/2 after 8hrs, would have to be desperate to go back to mileage pay, I worked out once, I would need 59.4cpm to make what I make doing the speed limit between Calgary and Winnipeg
without stopping.
No mileage pay is going to make me the same money.
once you get your freedom you don’t need to work for CPM,waiting time ,breakdowns if you want…some do fair play to them …some did like I did once I fulfilled my (in my mind obligation) to the company that brought me over 2yr TWP.i gave 30months.they treated me fair. NOw I know someone that received PR this year and walked into a dayjob mon-frid home at night at $35 hr plus OT plus 100% no cost medical in AB driving a quad outfit… As he said you don’t have to stick to otr driving once you get PR ,start a family find a hr paid job that pays the bills
With the arrival of electronic log-books, I think it would be a good idea to do away with cents-per -mile and go over to hourly pay. It would be a lot safer than the dangling-carrot pay structure that we have now. But I think it would have to be law before any haulier would do it.
I get $20 per border crossing and $200 US costs me $275 Canadian.
ive spoken to drivers that hate hourly pay ,they tell me it encourages people to sit at coffee stops etc ,they would rather have cmp my answer always is DUH!..the why should I get hrs pay and drive hard and " old mate " is tossing it off in timmies for half the day■■? they just don’t get it its the offices problem not yours.
rigsby:
Pat Hasler:
anon84679660:
I don’t know why, but I get instantly attracted to join a conversation when rates of pay are being mention for US/Canada driving jobs.
Any company in Canada paying equivalent of usd 150 for crossing the border each way, once you get your PR?I wouldn’t know ? I didn’t live in Canada, I don’t have a PR because I don’t need one, I live in the USA and hold a green card
My daughter has a green card , this year’s big decision , to apply for citizenship or not . She’s married to an American but fiercely proud of her British roots . What would your take on that be Pat ? . Dave
I have considered citizenship but have decided not to do it. If your daughter reads the small print in the back of her UK passport in becoming a joint citizen she will forego the rights to consulate assistance if she gets any trouble for instance. Also when a UK citizen becomes a US citizen he or she is liable to pay tax to the US wherever they live, even if they move back to the UK they must pay income tax to the INS.
There is an update to my wage post, I mentioned the poor rate for the run to my manager and in todays pay advice I see they have rectified the situation and added $200.00 to the pay for that run so in fact it paid $419.00 plus $150.00 = $569.00 total.
As for Neil’s comment about 18c a mile and upward the lowest I have seen here is Swifts who pay new drivers 25c a mile. Looking at my company rates they pay non guarantee drivers 46c a mile or above that.
Pat Hasler:
There is an update to my wage post, I mentioned the poor rate for the run to my manager and in todays pay advice I see they have rectified the situation and added $200.00 to the pay for that run so in fact it paid $419.00 plus $150.00 = $569.00 total.As for Neil’s comment about 18c a mile and upward the lowest I have seen here is Swifts who pay new drivers 25c a mile. Looking at my company rates they pay non guarantee drivers 46c a mile or above that.
25c ? Carolina Cargo pays 10c. They specialise in felons and ex cons trying to get on the straight and narrow, 20 cpm ttt for coast to coast teams. But they have great bonuses…
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A prime example of why the entire industry need pay by the hour.
Pat Hasler:
A prime example of why the entire industry need pay by the hour.
Especially when you have ■■■■■■■ Elogs & speed limiters.
neilg14:
Pat Hasler:
A prime example of why the entire industry need pay by the hour.Especially when you have [zb] Elogs & speed limiters.
Neil … That very statement is admitting the job can’t be done legally surely ? I love elogs myself, they work out everything for me, it even lets me take 2 x 8 hour sleeper breaks in a row. I find providing I run it right it’s good, if I run out of time I stop or even carry on as most will allow me to carry on for 2 hours once a week if I put a remark to explain why such as an emergency of delayed by weather or a breakdown etc.
If a driver has to break the law to earn a living he needs to change jobs.
But of course I agree with you, the whole trucking industry over here needs to be hourly paid and until drivers stick together and down tools it will remain like this.