Zac_A:
, this apparently leads to higher antibody levels than either infection or immunization alone. .
I bet you weren’t taught that in your university studies! No, because it’s just ballocks that they’ve made up in the current climate.
When they’re making money from it you can’t believe a word they say.
Zac I’ll defer to you on anything HGV, but you’ve abandoned your roots on this mate.
Since every expert in the field is making money from their expertise in one way or another, and many non-experts are making even more money who can we possibly listen to?
Absolutely nonsensical viewpoint.
In my totally gratis viewpoint, so it must be true.
And…? Research costs millions of pounds a year in this county alone - my last academic research job was funded to a tune of £100,000 a year for one researcher (and no, that’s not the salary, a scientist’s salary is comparable to a decent truck driver’s income).
Where does our research money come from? The Wellcome Trust is one major source- a charitable foundation, just like Mr Microsoft’s foundation, as well as a few other similar outfits. My funding came from the Arthritis Research Council, other’s get theirs from the Research Councils
stu675:
I would encourage everyone to have none of the covid injections required, I haven’t had any and still thinking how lucky am I to have contracted this mild disease. I’m ready for winter now, please if you are called for a jab do not go and have it done. I am fit and normally healthy. It makes a huge difference, the number of unexplained premature deaths in young and middle aged since the roll out of the poison is astounding.
I would encourage everyone to talk to doctors, nurses, and other health professionals about their own health matters.
I dont think that what works for me is perfect for the rest of the world. I wouldnt assume that whatever is right for Fred or Freda to be right for me.
Why would you expect what works for you to be good for everyone else here? What particular form of self obsessed stupid is that?
Extrapolate from one to 66 million?
What “astounding” numbers of “unexplained deaths” are these?
Give us a link to today`s comic site please!
Why did you quote me and not Chrisv? All I said was my personal opinion to balance out chrisv’s.
Was your post so dependent on what went before? If you think that me quoting the whole of your post, without other posts, was misleading I apologise, and would encourage others to scroll up.
ChrisV didn`t mention “astounding” “unexplained deaths” however, so can you please give us the head-up on that?
My post was totally dependent on chrisv’s in that I would not have bothered had he not provided his personal opinion, and I considered that it should not go unchallenged.
I think Juddian has already adequately put the point across that each side has already made their mind up and it is pointless trying to convince the other side. It is just fair and reasonable when a subject is raised that both sides can express their opinion.
robroy:
Hey Jakey
I don’t doubt for one minute that Covid does not exist as some do.
However,.as for deaths, I only personally knew 2 that as you say ‘‘dropped like flies’’.
Both contacted Covid, but also had different types of cancer.
I personally don’t know anybody who died actually.OF Covid,.and the ones I did hear about locally all had underlying health issues and/or were weak people.
I had 2 injections, partly because I fell for a lot of the early days media hype (embarrassingly so for me ) but mainly because my eldest daughter worked in a health centre,.and had got to her mother (my Mrs) …in the head.
In turn my Mrs kept giving me GBH on the ear holes, when I said I wasn’t having the injections, ,.she’s Dutch and I’m sure her ancestors were in ‘‘Der Unit Niderlande gruppen SS’’ …she is very persuasive.
However even if she gets the finger nail pliers out this time,.I’m defo not going for any more boosters.
I know you like to give it large about the fact that you fancy Willoughby more than your wife, but did you run that little joke past her before you accused her grandparents of being SS volunteers?
Zac_A:
, this apparently leads to higher antibody levels than either infection or immunization alone. .
I bet you weren’t taught that in your university studies! No, because it’s just ballocks that they’ve made up in the current climate.
When they’re making money from it you can’t believe a word they say.
Zac I’ll defer to you on anything HGV, but you’ve abandoned your roots on this mate.
My roots? Sorry Stu, you’ve lost me there. I was a research scientist working for one of the ‘fancier’ universities before I became a truck driver (see my comment on how salaries compare, plus academic scientists aren’t afforded the luxury of WTD ) . mRNA vaccines hadn’t been invented at that point so it would not have been possible for me to have learned about that in the early 2000’s.
Trust me that, as much as I think it is really good that more people started taking an interest in science in recent years, there’s far more to most topics than can be explained in “pop science” culture where the media seize on soundbite snippets and distort everything to make an interesting story.
According to a little piece in The Times many years ago, I was supposedly “curing cancer” I wasn’t, I was researching how simpler animals were incredibly resistant to the type of free-radical mediated damage caused by (amongst other things) gamma radiation.
But (unsurprisingly) “curing cancer” sounded a lot more interesting than “Tissue-specific and species-specific abilities to repair single-strand break DNA damage caused by reactive oxygen species as a result of exposure to cobalt 60 generated gamma radiation”.
Franglais:
]Why did you quote me and not Chrisv? All I said was my personal opinion to balance out chrisv’s.
Was your post so dependent on what went before? If you think that me quoting the whole of your post, without other posts, was misleading I apologise, and would encourage others to scroll up.
ChrisV didn`t mention “astounding” “unexplained deaths” however, so can you please give us the head-up on that?
My post was totally dependent on chrisv’s in that I would not have bothered had he not provided his personal opinion, and I considered that it should not go unchallenged.
I think Juddian has already adequately put the point across that each side has already made their mind up and it is pointless trying to convince the other side. It is just fair and reasonable when a subject is raised that both sides can express their opinion.
(NB that is max number of quotes allowed)
You challenged ChrisVs post. Im challenging your post.
I say that everyone would be far better getting advice from a medical professional, than from any truck driver, be that ChrisV or you.
I also ask again where these deaths are that you mentioned?
“Balance is needed, and different views should be viewed”
Let`s listen to rational 6 experts in any subject, 6 non-expert nutters, and then we can form the balanced view, that the truth lies somewhere halfway between them.
The reason everyone is carrying on as normal as if COVID doesnt exist is because, we now can. Before the vaccination program we saw on the TV people dying by the thousands and scared everyone to death. How many deaths do we hear about now? I drive coach loads of coughing people about every day and to be honest I am not nearly as worried as when it was all over the news. Now I just consider it as something I don’t want to catch but not something I fear.
Yorkshire Tramper:
The reason everyone is carrying on as normal as if COVID doesnt exist is because, we now can. Before the vaccination program we saw on the TV people dying by the thousands and scared everyone to death. How many deaths do we hear about now? I drive coach loads of coughing people about every day and to be honest I am not nearly as worried as when it was all over the news. Now I just consider it as something I don’t want to catch but not something I fear.
Yorkshire Tramper:
The reason everyone is carrying on as normal as if COVID doesnt exist is because, we now can. Before the vaccination program we saw on the TV people dying by the thousands and scared everyone to death. How many deaths do we hear about now? I drive coach loads of coughing people about every day and to be honest I am not nearly as worried as when it was all over the news. Now I just consider it as something I don’t want to catch but not something I fear.
The power of the media.
Maybe the widespread uptake of vaccines, might, just possibly, have had some effect too?
Yorkshire Tramper:
The reason everyone is carrying on as normal as if COVID doesnt exist is because, we now can. Before the vaccination program we saw on the TV people dying by the thousands and scared everyone to death. How many deaths do we hear about now? I drive coach loads of coughing people about every day and to be honest I am not nearly as worried as when it was all over the news. Now I just consider it as something I don’t want to catch but not something I fear.
The power of the media.
Maybe the widespread uptake of vaccines, might, just possibly, have had some effect too?
Yorkshire Tramper:
The reason everyone is carrying on as normal as if COVID doesnt exist is because, we now can. Before the vaccination program we saw on the TV people dying by the thousands and scared everyone to death. How many deaths do we hear about now? I drive coach loads of coughing people about every day and to be honest I am not nearly as worried as when it was all over the news. Now I just consider it as something I don’t want to catch but not something I fear.
The power of the media.
Maybe the widespread uptake of vaccines, might, just possibly, have had some effect too?
Natural immunity taking effect.
Just like we have become naturally immune to longer standing viruses?
Polio, small-pox, ebola, measles, mumps?
Yorkshire Tramper:
The reason everyone is carrying on as normal as if COVID doesnt exist is because, we now can. Before the vaccination program we saw on the TV people dying by the thousands and scared everyone to death. How many deaths do we hear about now? I drive coach loads of coughing people about every day and to be honest I am not nearly as worried as when it was all over the news. Now I just consider it as something I don’t want to catch but not something I fear.
The power of the media.
Maybe the widespread uptake of vaccines, might, just possibly, have had some effect too?
Or maybe now people aren’t being bombarded with project fear on their TV’s, papers and online on a daily basis.
Yorkshire Tramper:
The reason everyone is carrying on as normal as if COVID doesnt exist is because, we now can. Before the vaccination program we saw on the TV people dying by the thousands and scared everyone to death. How many deaths do we hear about now? I drive coach loads of coughing people about every day and to be honest I am not nearly as worried as when it was all over the news. Now I just consider it as something I don’t want to catch but not something I fear.
The power of the media.
Maybe the widespread uptake of vaccines, might, just possibly, have had some effect too?
Or maybe now people aren’t being bombarded with project fear on their TV’s, papers and online on a daily basis.
Since many fewer people are dying now, the media, even the dodgy bits of it, don`t carry stories of lots of people dying.
Not a surprise is it?
The problem I have with believing these type of videos is a simple fact of economics that govern research centres, who is actually funding and paying for this type of nonsensicle research? I cannot see governments or investors agreeing to a bunch of scientists researching gain of function research in a means to no end costing thousands. When you consider medical research is usually funded by investors hoping to make big money at the end opf it, there is no financial gain from this, therefore I believe it to be scare mongering and largely exaggerated hype. Just my thoughts of course.
The problem I have with believing these type of videos is a simple fact of economics that govern research centres, who is actually funding and paying for this type of nonsensicle research? I cannot see governments or investors agreeing to a bunch of scientists researching gain of function research in a means to no end costing thousands. When you consider medical research is usually funded by investors hoping to make big money at the end opf it, there is no financial gain from this, therefore I believe it to be scare mongering and largely exaggerated hype. Just my thoughts of course.
Too many Govs abdicate their responsibility to look after the citizens of their country.
The zealots who worship at the Church Of The Free Market, believe private money sorts everything. It doesnt. Because they dont sufficiently fund research with public money, then researchers need to seek funds.
Franglais:
Sick people going into work spread sickness.
Even of they can work OK themselves, some of those they infect will be off sick for weeks, not days.
All fine and well saying that but if you are well enough to go to work why wouldn’t you? We all have mortgages and bills to pay, or are those you are “protecting” going to cover those bills for you?
Sounds harsh buts the reality, you can’t just keep locking perfectly abled and functioning people inside and away from work forever just to protect a very small minority.
5 days off wont stop you paying the mortgage - its a months beer money.
im one of the many who ignored all the advice,no vacc for me and worked thruout the heady days . Few months ago got covid together with colleagues ,it lasted 10 days couldnt possibly work coughed so much my belly button went from an inny to an outey! . was awful but still havnt had a jab
) but mainly because my eldest daughter worked in a health centre,.and had got to her mother (my Mrs) …in the head. 
) . mRNA vaccines hadn’t been invented at that point so it would not have been possible for me to have learned about that in the early 2000’s.
I wasn’t, I was researching how simpler animals were incredibly resistant to the type of free-radical mediated damage caused by (amongst other things) gamma radiation.