lolipop:
This guy is not real or the full ticket,or is trying to take over the top spot for trolling from Dozy
+1
play along time…if they treated you like that,then they consider you a fanny and want rid of you…no brainer…but back in rality land,nobody could be such a wazzok to be left like that…try harder…and the clue to the employer might just be in the o/p name? wakeywayey… 
I call bull excrement. No supermarket would leave a driver, let alone two, stranded, after they run out of time. This didn’t happen. And as for getting to work with a taxi to hand in paperwork?? And* starting a new shift straight after ? Nah, didn’t happen.
And on the remote off chance of it have happened , there is more going on than we are told. To be fair, I have had to deal with ‘drivers’ in the past who I would have left in the middle of nowhere with pleasure…
(* especially for you UKtramp 
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Lol, this is nowhere near the standard of dozy, you are an idiot and deserve all you get grow a pair. What next … they will deduct monies from your wage because they had to spend more diesel to get the drivers out to you and why would they send 3 drivers out… oh, and you could of crossed over to the hotel on then Alpha carriage of the M25, there is a road that pedestrians can use. So, sir I smell bull, and this is a made up story.
I am 99% sure ,This was posted on facebook recently …
andyatmorri:
No there is no hotel at clacket lane Kent bound. The only one is opposite side of M25…
yes I’m new, very new to driving lgv’s.
I asked for advise on the law as clearly I didn’t and don’t know it.
Why would this be a wind up. Yes it’s a very regular run but first time I’ve done it and
normally stay within 40 miles of base. So yes I agree I’ve messed up but transport mNager told me my responsibility is for me to work out out how I’m getting home,
Other driver was doing the very same job in his own vehicle.
For future reference you can get to the hotel on Clacket Lane from either side of the services, they allow you through a barrier to cross over the motorway.
Why is this a wind up, it doesn’t ring true in the years I’ve been driving, I’ve never heard of a driver being left at the side of the road without his truck.
If it isn’t then although the company understand their drivers hours regs, but the companies who’ve been prosecuted for doing this have been taking the ■■■■ and using it as part of their standard work procedure, it’s very very unlikely the DVSA are going to worry about a one off case where drivers have been brought back to the depot in a company vehicle after they have run out of hours.
The company don’t really understand they have a duty of care to their employees under the Health and Safety at work act, the very least they should have done was to make sure you either had accommodation or you could get home.
the nodding donkey:
I call bull excrement. No supermarket would leave a driver, let alone two, stranded, after they run out of time. This didn’t happen. And as for getting to work with a taxi to hand in paperwork?? And* starting a new shift straight after ? Nah, didn’t happen.And on the remote off chance of it have happened , there is more going on than we are told. To be fair, I have had to deal with ‘drivers’ in the past who I would have left in the middle of nowhere with pleasure…
(* especially for you UKtramp
That’s a good point, had it been a tin pot haulage concern I’d have believed it but big companies like this don’t often pull this sort of crap.
andyatmorri:
Hi All,
I work for a well known supermarket logistics distribution company based in South East U.K.
I’ll try to make this as short as possible .
I set off in my LGV to the Isle Of Wight. Unable to get any earlier ferry back to Southampton we (another driver in another Unit) had to get the ferry we were booked onto. That was the 10:30am ferry.
As I clocked on at 23:45 the previous evening I had exactly 3 hours to get back to north Kent as the ferry docked at 11:45am.
With traffic problems and withthe company very regularly contacted even from Isle Of Wight before ferry departed, we ran out of hours stopping at Clacket Lane services between jct 6/5 on M25. Approx 40 miles for DC.
Our company sent out a van with 3 persons on board. Two got out and drove the LGV’s back to the yard. The van driver drove off also alone. Leaving myself and my colleague sitting on the kerb with a total of £2:60 between us.
Company said your out of hours your tacho are out. Not our problem how you get home.
With no wallet as I don’t take mine to work. I had to phone my Son who himself had to leave work , go home to get my wallet to take to a taxi office to pay for taxi to collect us both. Company refused to pay taxi fare £64:00.
We got back to work at 17:15pm. Handed in paperwork getting home at 18:00.
I had to clock on at 23:45 the same night as company said I started my rest at the service station at 14:35 when I took my tacho out…
Andy
That is absolutely inexcusable and appalling behaviour from your Co. Are you full time or agency? Not that being one or the other excuses shoddy treatment but you may have a better chance of being compensated if you’re full time.
Demanding that you returned to work so soon after being left stranded would have me doing something very much against my nature which would be to phone the DVSA and explain to them what you’ve just told us. 
switchlogic:
the nodding donkey:
I call bull excrement. No supermarket would leave a driver, let alone two, stranded, after they run out of time. This didn’t happen. And as for getting to work with a taxi to hand in paperwork?? And* starting a new shift straight after ? Nah, didn’t happen.And on the remote off chance of it have happened , there is more going on than we are told. To be fair, I have had to deal with ‘drivers’ in the past who I would have left in the middle of nowhere with pleasure…
(* especially for you UKtramp
That’s a good point, had it been a tin pot haulage concern I’d have believed it but big companies like this don’t often pull this sort of crap.
It can happen i did 10 hours driving on my 6th day for Sainsburys and they wouldn’t come to get me until i told them the truck was parked at services with keys in and windows open while i beg lift with any truck going my way, they had someone on way within 5 minutes.
For anyone unsure of the law I suggest reading this manual. It explains things well. It’s with printing it out and keeping it with you http://www.fta.co.uk/_galleries/downloads/email_news/vosa_rule_on_drivers_hours_tachographs.pdf
andyatmorri:
We didn’t stick to the law , stupid as it is. We asked drivers to take us back . Rescue drivers were clearly instructed to leave us. So stick that up your A.
Your story is truly remarkable, all the more for your acquiescence to being left at the side of the road.
The law doesn’t say you can’t travel as a passenger in a company van back to your operating base.
What it says is that you (and possibly the operator) commit an offence if you do not take sufficient daily rest within 24hrs of starting your shift. It is also an offence not to keep a proper record of your hours, by making manual entries later if necessary for any time during which you are not assigned to a tacho-equipped vehicle.
Whether you ride in a company van or hitchhike home from a remote destination, you continue to be engaged in the work your employer has set.
At the 15 hour mark, an infringement of the drivers hours is unavoidable unless you are either equipped to take your rest in the wagon, or possibly at a remote place of rest.
Without arguing about the technicalities of whether sleeping in a cardboard box at the roadside could be considered a place of rest under the drivers hours regulations, most reasonable people would think that the employer’s conduct amounts to a compulsion to engage in further work to return home, and that it is not reasonable to take rest immediately in the situation you were left.
Furthermore, by forcing the driver to make their own arrangements to get home in a connivance to avoid the further hours of work being properly recorded as such (and at the cost of further time and inconvenience for the driver) they have acted to make the infringement of the drivers hours rules even more egregious.
Such unreasonable conduct in my mind would go to a question of whether an operator is fit to continue holding their operating licence.
bald bloke:
Steve-o:
eagerbeaver:
Doesn’t sound like Morrison’s are a good employer then?Lol so it’s not only me who instantly thought morrisons
This is surely a wind up.
Silly me I had Waitrose in my head.
That comes via Bracknell and I think they just dump trailers at port
Complete and utter wind up.
Even with the Sittingbourne depot being run by ADR Network, i cannot see any Transport Manager sanctioning that sort of outcome.
If, in the remarkably unlikely event, this is even close to being a genuine event, then you should be emailing the TC with your tale of woe. Along with the documentary evidence to prove it happened…like your taxi receipt, print out etc.
If you run out of shift hours at Clacket Lane, then there is no legal way for the company to recover you back to base. However, you could have travelled passenger in the truck and explained the circumstances on the back of a tacho print out. Or, the company should have made you aware of their intentions and booked you into the hotel at the services, arranging to collect once your daily rest was completed…that is the only 100% legal solution.
This thread had made my 30 min lunch break enjoyable [emoji38][emoji38]
I would have pulled in to rownhams and phoned to say I will be 9 hours late back
switchlogic:
For anyone unsure of the law I suggest reading this manual. It explains things well. It’s with printing it out and keeping it with you http://www.fta.co.uk/_galleries/downloads/email_news/vosa_rule_on_drivers_hours_tachographs.pdf
Or use the online version here gov.uk/guidance/drivers-hou … s-vehicles (from which you can also print out the bits you need), which may be more up-to-date. DVSA updated the GV262 last year.
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Roymondo:
switchlogic:
For anyone unsure of the law I suggest reading this manual. It explains things well. It’s with printing it out and keeping it with you http://www.fta.co.uk/_galleries/downloads/email_news/vosa_rule_on_drivers_hours_tachographs.pdfOr use the online version here gov.uk/guidance/drivers-hou … s-vehicles (from which you can also print out the bits you need), which may be more up-to-date. DVSA updated the GV262 last year.
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Cheers, that’s the better option
If it’s true it seems obvious that the problem is the stupid start time.IE you get the delivery and return run times,including the ferry schedule,then move the start time accordingly to make sure that it all fits into a legal shift.Bearing in mind the return ferry schedule runs well before 10.30 am in the morning anyway how difficult can it be to start from Kent,run to the IOW,tip and then run back all within 13 hours even if it’s a night delivery.Or for that matter what firm would be stupid enough to call for a before midnight start time with a ferry crossing booked at 10.30 am.
Sounds like bs to me.
nightline:
Wind up there is nobody that thick and to make it worse there is no two thicks together that would come up with this
Also there is no company that would do that
Totally agree, troll.
Carryfast:
If it’s true it seems obvious that the problem is the stupid start time.IE you get the delivery and return run times,including the ferry schedule,then move the start time accordingly to make sure that it all fits into a legal shift.Bearing in mind the return ferry schedule runs well before 10.30 am in the morning anyway how difficult can it be to start from Kent,run to the IOW,tip and then run back all within 13 hours even if it’s a night delivery.Or for that matter what firm would be stupid enough to call for a before midnight start time with a ferry crossing booked at 10.30 am.Sounds like bs to me.
Find out what company it is, they may take on you as a planning consultant
Rjan:
andyatmorri:
We didn’t stick to the law , stupid as it is. We asked drivers to take us back . Rescue drivers were clearly instructed to leave us. So stick that up your A.Your story is truly remarkable, all the more for your acquiescence to being left at the side of the road.
The law doesn’t say you can’t travel as a passenger in a company van back to your operating base.
What it says is that you (and possibly the operator) commit an offence if you do not take sufficient daily rest within 24hrs of starting your shift. It is also an offence not to keep a proper record of your hours, by making manual entries later if necessary for any time during which you are not assigned to a tacho-equipped vehicle.
Whether you ride in a company van or hitchhike home from a remote destination, you continue to be engaged in the work your employer has set.
At the 15 hour mark, an infringement of the drivers hours is unavoidable unless you are either equipped to take your rest in the wagon, or possibly at a remote place of rest.
Without arguing about the technicalities of whether sleeping in a cardboard box at the roadside could be considered a place of rest under the drivers hours regulations, most reasonable people would think that the employer’s conduct amounts to a compulsion to engage in further work to return home, and that it is not reasonable to take rest immediately in the situation you were left.
Furthermore, by forcing the driver to make their own arrangements to get home in a connivance to avoid the further hours of work being properly recorded as such (and at the cost of further time and inconvenience for the driver) they have acted to make the infringement of the drivers hours rules even more egregious.
Such unreasonable conduct in my mind would go to a question of whether an operator is fit to continue holding their operating licence.
Wouldnt they also be breaking minimum wage laws as well, if you are still classed as working when making your way home but not being paid.
Im still having a hard time believng this happen though.
Ok children, are we sitting comfortably?
Then I’ll begin.
What a load of
CARP .
