Class C test fail and Hi!

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Hi Guys

Glad to join the page. From the northeast area i have been in training a while for my Class C, passed all theory and CPC mod 2 In November 2021 and have my weeks driving trianing last week, Passed my Reverse test and my CPC mod 4 first time which i thought was great and was quite happy about then last Friday I had my driving test.

Basically went out from Sunderland LGV yard and drove around for a hour went through Sunderland, castle hylton, Gateshead, a19, Washington back to Sunderland, did my manoeuvres

i was asked by the assessor things such as pullover, hill starts, independent driving, was driving great and started heading back to the yard and I could see the final leg up to the yard which was basically a stone throw away and the assessor asked me to pull in one more time (5th time) so checked mirrors, indicated , slow down gradually, pulled in and stopped,

he said right when you ready pull away when safe to do so, so checked mirrors and blind spot indicated to be out and there was cars coming round so waited and a van pulled in behind me and stopped, so I kept a eye whilst traffic came round and cleared the side of the lorry and the van proceeded to wait behind with no indication to be round and no flash for me to let me out and away,
so I waited for a minute patiently to see if he decided to move lucky there was no traffic behind him, so i checked all mirrors and blind spot again and proceeded to move out towards the yard which was literally quarter mile away,

so we arrived and parked up and felt great about it all nerves disappeared whilst driving and was comfortable and thought I did well, he then proceeded with " great drive you got one minor for not checking mirrors on a speed change and unfortunately you failed the test for not pulling away safely"

I asked why and he said “you pulled out in front of the van and caused him to slow down and stop” so I thought I’m not gonna say anything because the decision has been made but really… clearly the van was sat behind me before I chose to pull away upon checking many times whether to go or not and had plenty time for any indication to come round as I was watching him and so was the assessor?
was he having a bad day or was i generally at fault and received to major I’m not sure, but it pee’d me off and more money to fork out for a retest only this time during peak traffic at 8 clock on the morning.

the lad before me failed also for being to hesitant at a round about because he felt as though the gap was unsafe to pull out on he got a major for that and no minors throughout the test.

so i don’t know what was happening really felt a kick in the balls after everything was going to well. hey ho ill get it next time, but just wanted to input my expierience and if anyone had a similar one on theyre test?

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Could he possibly be referring to a different pull off?

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he specifically said the one that we just did with the van behind, I don’t know it was a headache thinking about what i did wrong whether i need some sort of indication from the van behind such as a flash to set away but he just sat and waited patiently for me to proceed

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Not much help except for your resit, but this is where a ‘running commentary’ can help you out a bit, it lets the examiner know what you’ve spotted and what you’re thinking about.

Do you have “acquired rights” for your DCPC? If not, did Sunderland LGV make sure you knew about the need to have your Initial DCPC, ie Mod 2 and Mod 4? I ask because a DCPC trainer I know met a lad on a DCPC course who shouldn’t have been there because SLGV hadn’t checked what he needed, he’d been driving for over two years with no DQC and his employers hadn’t even checked :unamused:

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It sounds like you didn’t do anything wrong by your account.
■■■■ that mate.

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Zac_A:
Not much help except for your resit, but this is where a ‘running commentary’ can help you out a bit, it lets the examiner know what you’ve spotted and what you’re thinking about.

Do you have “acquired rights” for your DCPC? If not, did Sunderland LGV make sure you knew about the need to have your Initial DCPC, ie Mod 2 and Mod 4? I ask because a DCPC trainer I know met a lad on a DCPC course who shouldn’t have been there because SLGV hadn’t checked what he needed, he’d been driving for over two years with no DQC and his employers hadn’t even checked :unamused:

SLGV have been great with me i cant fault them at all they gave me a breakdown of what i needed and booked everything for me my theory test, hazard perception, CPC mod 2 case study and the last wednesday i did my CPC mod 4 along with the PART A of the driving test which was the reversing

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That’s good to know, I wouldn’t usually have mentioned this with their name, but thought I would check just to make sure seeing as you’d named them already.

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Zac_A:
That’s good to know, I wouldn’t usually have mentioned this with their name, but thought I would check just to make sure seeing as you’d named them already.

honestly nothing wrong with them on there part, and the test result I got wasn’t to do with them really, I drove sweet all week obviously shakey at first but proceeded to get used the to vehicle and got into a rhythm of placement on the road and driving through gaps I would never of thought id get through safely etc and they walked me threw no problem and broke everything down as needed,

cant get my head around and i have a gap to wait from now to march for my retest which is worrying as I’m not constantly driving anymore and my retest is at 8am rush hour… lol!

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It might be something along the lines of a deviation from mirrors, signal, manoeuvre. Once you have seen there is a clear gap to go, you indicate. It sounds like you may have caused the van to slow and stop because of your indication. These things happen all the time, when you perhaps have to cancel an indicator, but on your test you must be very careful to know the gap is okay.

Just one of those things, you could easily have passed given a different set of circumstances by the sounds of it. Just get on and make sure of the pass next time.

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For test purposes, “safe to pull away” = nothing behind you at all! Anything approaching behind, wait.

I disagree, and too much is subjective, but that’s how it seems to be.

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Noremac:
It might be something along the lines of a deviation from mirrors, signal, manoeuvre. Once you have seen there is a clear gap to go, you indicate. It sounds like you may have caused the van to slow and stop because of your indication. These things happen all the time, when you perhaps have to cancel an indicator, but on your test you must be very careful to know the gap is okay.

Just one of those things, you could easily have passed given a different set of circumstances by the sounds of it. Just get on and make sure of the pass next time.

I think that’s what has happened - by indicating when there was traffic approaching the examiner felt (quite correctly) that you caused the van to slow down and stop.

Correct procedure when pulling offwould be to check for traffic but not indicate until you have the safe gap to pull out into.

Harsh, but that’s what they are looking for.

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That’s exactly the opposite of what I was taught.
My instructor told me to put an indicator on so that the traffic knew you were intending to pull out and this hopefully would lead to someone letting you out.
No issues on either of my hgv tests doing this.

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i think its just one of them things to the assessor discrepancy booked in for the 10th of march again at 11:11 £340 :open_mouth:

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Roymondo:

Noremac:
It might be something along the lines of a deviation from mirrors, signal, manoeuvre. Once you have seen there is a clear gap to go, you indicate. It sounds like you may have caused the van to slow and stop because of your indication. These things happen all the time, when you perhaps have to cancel an indicator, but on your test you must be very careful to know the gap is okay.

Just one of those things, you could easily have passed given a different set of circumstances by the sounds of it. Just get on and make sure of the pass next time.

I think that’s what has happened - by indicating when there was traffic approaching the examiner felt (quite correctly) that you caused the van to slow down and stop.

Correct procedure when pulling offwould be to check for traffic but not indicate until you have the safe gap to pull out into.

Harsh, but that’s what they are looking for.

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but leave the left hand indicator on until you feel safe to proceed to indicate right and move off ?

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Rellik:
but leave the left hand indicator on until you feel safe to proceed to indicate right and move off ?

Not not really, once you are stopped in a suitable place (or whatever the wording they use is), you are effectively parked, so no need for an indicator until you are ready to move off and crucially have checked there is a sufficient gap before doing so.

Once that van had stopped behind you effectively the error had already been incurred because you had caused the van to stop.

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Ask yourself this - if I indicate now am I going to make another driver think I am going to do something right now and make them change course or speed? = if yes then do not indicate at that moment

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Don’t indicate if you will make the vehicle slow down, swerve or speed or swear

Only exception is if your parked and there are several uncoming vehicles blocking the path of the vehicle behind you then its OK to mirror signal and move off

Or if its heavy traffic and speed is at crawling speed then you can indicate and ask for way