Hi/
I work for Kier street services driving a bin lorry collecting trade waste (paid for service.)
Also during the round i do have to collect lots of missed collections not made by some of the other drivers, Such as refuse / food and supposedly recycling (non of which extremely ever gets recycled even when i am on a recycling round. I also collect Bulky household waste at the same time as well as all sorts of electrical items and white goods all of which get crushed and end up in landfill.)
I have been told by a supervisor at a different branch that i am brreaking the law by driving out of scope (as i have been told to do)
I also regularly work over 9 hours occasionally,10 hours as i am a driver loader as i only have 1 crewmate/loader therefore i am driving and loading.
I was told that because the trade round is for hire or reward ie paid for service that i should be using out of scope and that i am breaking the law.
Is this true am i breaking the law, as the driving hours just confuses me and to which directive should i be driving to.
Any help would be appreciated please.
Thanks.
I think it’s only domestic collections that come under the domestic rules. Collecting trade waste would put you on EU hours.
Binman0166:
Hi/
I work for Kier street services driving a bin lorry collecting trade waste (paid for service.)
Also during the round i do have to collect lots of missed collections not made by some of the other drivers, Such as refuse / food and supposedly recycling (non of which extremely ever gets recycled even when i am on a recycling round. I also collect Bulky household waste at the same time as well as all sorts of electrical items and white goods all of which get crushed and end up in landfill.)
I have been told by a supervisor at a different branch that i am brreaking the law by driving out of scope (as i have been told to do)
I also regularly work over 9 hours occasionally,10 hours as i am a driver loader as i only have 1 crewmate/loader therefore i am driving and loading.
I was told that because the trade round is for hire or reward ie paid for service that i should be using out of scope and that i am breaking the law.
Is this true am i breaking the law, as the driving hours just confuses me and to which directive should i be driving to.
Any help would be appreciated please.
Thanks.
There’s an exemption from EU regulations for “door-to-door household refuse collection or disposal”, but from what you’ve posted that does not apply to you and you are in-scope of EU regulations, therefore you should be using a tachograph (not out of scope).
I don’t think the fact that the round is a commercial enterprise is the problem as much as the fact that you’re not doing “door-to-door household refuse collection”.
The exemption is in Article 13 (h) - (EC) 561/2006
You can read the DVSA (VOSA) view on the subject on Page 16 - Rules on Drivers Hours and Tachographs
The fact that you work more than nine hours isn’t relevant because you can legally do that on both domestic and EU regulations.