Chris Witty Covid 'confession'

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Chris Witty has given his take on the covid thing at an enquiry apparentlly.
Basically it seems that in hindsight he was a bit alarmist, and a bit over the top with the restrictions…who’d have thought it eh? :roll_eyes:

I get it that the situation was unprecedented,.I get it that it was an 'unknown quantity,.I get it that people make mistakes, …but why tf did it go on for so long, then a second lockdown, with all the adverse effects on peoples lives and the economy.
I also get it that they were acting on and expecting a similar scenario that went on in Italy, but it did not happen…thankfully.

So it looks like a high percentage, or the majority of the pop could deal with it and were relatively safe, and if they caught it got over it, those old and frail, .and/or with underlying health conditions were not safe.
So yet another flu type epidemic that we have had in different times for generations, but granted a particularly bad one this time.
I get the better safe than sorry policy also…but just how far do you go with it without ruining peoples livlehoods.?
Seems as far as they actually did go.

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He’s a scientist, not a politician, as such he’s happy to revise his views when there is more evidence.

What you’re seeing as a weakness on his behalf, is actually the fundamental strength of science. This is why politicians and the public need more scientific education/understanding.

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If only!

Too many politicos with degrees in ancient, foreign, fairy-tales for my liking. (Classics)
Too few with much scientific/mathematical disciplines behind them.
And those who practised in the law? A barrister is not interested in the truth in the UK’s adversarial legal system, just in arguing for a point of view be it right or wrong.

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A lot of us didn’t need the nearly 2 years of lockdowns, restrictions and masks to see the evidence.

It became apparent after a matter of months (if that) that life for 95% of the population and society should have carried on as it was pre March 2020.

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Yeah ok, but I did not say that I saw it as a weakness did I ?
As I said it was a mistake down to an unknown quantity…I fully accept that, abd I do get the science concept you mention.

That mistake, including prioritising covid in the NHS over everything else cost lives also, while cancer patients for example not catching it in time because nobody would see them in the NHS, as well as the cost to a lot of businesses that went under, and the rest of it all.

Thing is why did he/they not acknowledge that mistake sooner?
We at the beginning (including me) were taken in by the Italy thing, but many of us saw at different stages that what we were being told to do because of what was supposedlly ‘happening’ and what we SAW around us, with our own eyes just did not correlate.

My local social leisure centre complex was made into an Army field hospital ffs,
(obviously never used), but as I went down the shops (telling my Mrs to stay at home to be ‘safe’)and dressed like I was going out on a 'kin bank robbery :roll_eyes:, I cant remember tripping over any bodies, or seeing a bloke pushing a handcart shouting ‘Bring out your dead’ as we were virtually led to believe what was bound to happen.

So I (and many others) just said f. this, and tried my/our best just to carry on as normal …oh yeah while getting paid furlough for idly sitting on our arses whilst the economy turned to crap.

So why was it carried on for so long?
Because who ever had the balls to curb the restrictions to a sensible level would have been blamed for any further deaths…a bit like Starmer and his pensioners

Why was their even a 2nd lockdown?

Why did everybody (not me btw) have to cancel their Christmas?.

It was just carried on and on, and perpetuated by those who kept wearing their masks (even in a car on their own ffs :joy: …we all saw them ) who collectively totally swallowed all the crap.

I aint saying it was a hoax or even a triviality blown out of proportion.
It was a pandemic, it was serious, it did kill weak people and unfortunately the odd few exceptions to that rule, but all totally over egged and exaggerated…
THAT was the mistake.

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Well, when the next pandemic happens (and they are natural events, even if it’s only once in a century) then we’ll see how that turns out, with all the untapped immunological expertise freely available on Social Media - assuming Social Media has been allowed to continue its destruction of society in the unchecked manner we see right now.

Personally I have no problem with people gambling with their own health, so long as there are appropriate means to keep the fockers away from me.

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Well I for one neither claim nor profess to be an expert, but if I see something different going on to what I’m being told is going on, I’ll react accordingly, rather than go on and perpetuate a charade.

Btw absolutely no threat from German aircraft whatsoever since 1945, so you are safe.:smiley:

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Experts like this?

If only such expertise was shared with the BMJ ! Here they are in April 2020. https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1327
Clearly they did not know as much as @Newlion .

Do you honestly think that as a driver on the road, or someone sitting at home on furlough, you can see as much as a Dr or Nurse, in a hospital, or an official looking at all the figures coming in from hospitals all over this country and others?

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And do you honestly think I’m going to take any notice of you, particularly on this subject?

A guy who actually got off on it all to the point of obsession?

A guy who swallowed it hook line and sinker,.and went on to repeat and regurgitate everything he was told about it from official sources,.without a hint of question?

And no doubt sat behind his curtain with a pair of binoculars to grass up any of his neighbours for…‘not following the rules’.
I bet you are still wearing mask in fact.:joy:
Nah not really mate.
I’ll stick to my OWN opinions thanks, right or wrong.

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When your wife is a nurse and see’s things first hand it helps you to form your opinion. You don’t need to be an expert with the evidence right in front of your eyes. Obviously you being so naïve and gullible won’t be able to comprehend that concept. I’d say she had a pretty good perspective of what was “really” happening. Unlike you who just naively believes everything you are told to believe by online sources and the MSM.

Obviously you will discredit her first hand experience in your usual condescending and patronizing way because it differs from your online link.

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My feelings on the whole Covid thing are previously documented so I’ll just say that the first time Covid came onto my radar was when I saw on tv grainy footage from China of people falling down and dying in the street mid step followed by the footage of Italian military vehicles apparently laden with corpses bouncing out of hospital car parks on clearly unladen springs.

If it walks like a duck etc etc etc.

As with most things the truth can be found by following the money.

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People needed to make some serious housekeeping and personal hygiene changes to get away with no lockdowns.

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Where is the evidence that my only source of information is online?
You are making a statement with no evidence at all.
Like many people I too have relatives and friends within the NHS and also in other health/science areas.
Do you really want to start a “my Dad is bigger than your Dad” argument?

Are all the people in the ongoing C19 enquiry part of a carefully organised global conspiracy?

A global conspiracy, uniting USA, China, Russia, EU, Israel and Arab countries with the UK, to lose everyone money?

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As I said no doubt whatsoever the pandemic was a genuine entity.
Source unknown.
I find myself asking why was it rammed home to us in such a way that it was much worse than what it was.
Over cautious? Mistaken? Or something slightly sinister?

I know personally a couple or so of people who died with it, but all of whom had underlying health issues that made their immune system unable to cope.
I also know a hell of a lot of people personally who caught it…including myself, who got through it in varying degrees good and bad of suffering.

But I know of nobody who was of a healthy condition who died of it…funnillly enough.

How many famous people died OF (not with) it, only one I knew that was all over the media was Kate Garroway’s husband, so if it was so common in reality why was that such a big news item, he was hardly A lister.

Was it a convenient vehicle for some bizzare social experiment, sounds highly unlikely I know with all the resulting consequences, but the cynic in me tells me something was not all it was said to be.

An experiment in civil obedience?
Yep again sounds a bit crazy, but were they trying to sort the wheat from the chaff?
Trouble is the way ‘they’ would have seen it is that WE are the chaff that needs taken in hand,.and the terminally gullible who swallowed it ALL were the wheat.

Ok all a bit sci fi, but can anybody else come up with a theory,.conspiratorial or otherwise?

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■■■■ happens. …Stuff Happens

Viruses mutate all the time. SARS, Spanish Flu, Hong Kong Flu, AIDs, stuff happens all the time.
C19 was worst than most.

There could be a far worse one tomorrow. There might be none of consequence for a century or more.

■■■■ Happens

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Everyone? You’re fond of pointing out people who made millions on the back of it, so I’ll ask again, everyone?

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Yes, some people made millions from it.

Just as some make millions from all sorts of natural disasters etc. That some take advantage of circumstances is not proof that they caused those events.

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Meat Loaf
Dave Greenfield from The Stranglers
Bobby Ball
Eddie Large
Tim Brooke-Taylor
Adam Schlesinger (Fountains of Wayne singer)

Only reason i know is because names i grew up with and reported in the news.
Probably a lot more celebrities and other notable people

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I never said that they caused events. Did they manipulate events to their benefit? That’s a different kettle of fish.

I believe that Covid was a thing, why wouldn’t I? What I don’t believe was the hype around an admittedly particularly nasty virus. In fact I think that the virus that represented the biggest threat to mankind was the media!

You and I are never going to have a common ground on this. I think that you particularly are so heavily invested in this that nothing will let you even consider any deviation from what you’ve decided is right. That’s ok though and I completely understand your POV, it’s human nature.

I never believed that it was being orchestrated by a man in a hollowed out volcano sat in front of a bunch of monitors whilst stroking a white cat. I do believe however that certain powerful groups saw an opportunity and took it.

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Just pointing out my wifes first hand experience. What she was seeing in front of her wasnt correlating to the doomsday scenario being reported daily on the news and in the media. Anyone who left the house betwen 2020 and 2022, had eyes & ears could logically come to that conclusion too.

The fact that we are now slowly being drip fed these omissions tells me everything I need to know.