Cheshire Hauliers

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GAZ70:
hayday regarding pop’s motors,i now a bloke who did the container job for a few years,he used to take roll’s -royce cars to felixstowe docks,and then come back empty,roll’s-royce paid for the return journey so there was never a bck load :slight_smile:

GAZ70,

Back in the 70’s,when I was driving for Humber McVeigh Salford,we used to take Seatrain containers to either Greenock or Felixstowe,on one trip,I forget the drivers name,but he loaded out of RR Crewe,40ft container with one RR in it.
As he was an avid Norwich football fan,he got as far as Norwich and was looking for somewhere to park,near the football ground so he could attend the game.
During his search for a suitable parking place,he clouted a railway bridge so severely,it damaged the RR inside the container,he had to bring it all the way back to Crewe!!

Oh happy days,

Take it easy,

David :laughing:

Good tale that! I heard a few with ref to Rolls Royce - once loaded, wouldn’t they make you stay at the back of the trailer while they just put blocks either side of the wheels of the car (no straps or ropes) On the subject of containers, I also remember just before Christmas a good while ago, the US toymaker Fisher Price had their own livery on their 40’ boxes - that was until they all got emptied one night on the Stretton estate. I think they resorted to unmarked ones afterwards

Lynch Tankers based at Norton Way Sandbach.The Foden is an oldie before he got into buying Volvos.Photo found on ebay.The others I took myself
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Hi everyone - my first post here, so please forgive a newbie!

Thanks to the marvels of the internet, I spotted this particular thread whilst looking for something completely non-related.

I’m neither a driver or an owner, but if anyone is interested, I can probably supply a some information & pictures etc. regarding LEWIS BROTHERS of Cuddington, which used to be situated on Norley Road next to Cuddington Station. My mum Mary used to work at the telephone exchange, and fondly remembers that the old telephone number for the company used to be Sandiway 146 (how times have changed!).

My dad, Roy Williams, was Transport Director at Lewis’s, from after the war until it was taken over by LSM (Lime Sand Mortar) and subsequently Thomas Tilling (which then became TILCON, in the late 60s). After the owner and his wife, ALAN & PHYLIS LEWIS retired to Anglesey in 1951, he ran the business with fellow director (Sales & Marketing) Derek Tompkinson (now deceased), and I spent many, many happy hours both in the yard and at the sand pits in Cheshire which they used to own. I recall that the two main pits were on the Tarporley Road and at Pettypool (near Whitegate?). Derek was married to Alan’s sister Florence (Flo). Alan’s daughter Sylvia (coincidentally married to John Lynch of LYNCH TRANSPORT, mentioned earlier in this thread) also used to work at the company.

Their fleet was mainly Fodens (for the 8 wheelers) and Bedford TKs for the smaller stuff. Their livery was cream cabs with dark green bodies (does anybody remember the little slogan on the back of their trucks? “Yes - another load of washed pit sand!” - my dad came up with that and was really proud of it… heh heh!). I also used to see other trucks in the yard belonging to a company called CHESHIRE SAND, who had mainly Bedfords with light green cabs and dark green bodies.

The fitter who used to keep all the trucks on the road was Eric Bennett - now 88 and still alive, living with his wife Barbara in Sandiway. Eric was Alan’s brother-in-law.

The only drivers’ names I can remember (it was a long time ago!) were Herbert Cliff, and Alan’s brothers-in-law, Doug & Ron Bennett. As you will gather, it truely was a “family business”.

I also recall that the fleet used to contain a number of Atkinson 8 wheelers, and at least one Albion. At one time, some of the really old Bedfords still had wooden cabs!

When the business was sold to LSM, all the trucks were painted a creamy white colour, with the circular badge containing a trowel in the middle with the letters LSM around it. Once Thomas Tilling took over, the trucks then sported the familiar light blue and burgundy livery with the TILCON logo along the side.

The washed pit sand was pumped out from the ground with water, which then drained back into the pit and the clean sand was dried before being transported. One abiding memory was when they needed to break through the layer of hard clay to get to the sand underneath, so my dad called in the legendary Derek “Blaster” Bates to do the job. He made everybody laugh so much the old man went straight out and bought one of Blaster’s LPs. It contained some pretty saucy stuff and I wasn’t allowed to listen to it, so I used to wait until they’d gone out before playing it on the old stereogram. That LP still makes me laugh to this day.

Anyway - I’ve rambled on enough. I hope this may bring back memories to some of you old 'uns, and if there’s anything else you can add I’d love to hear it. I know my dad kept lots and lots of photos of the fleet (local photographer and family friend Lawrence Sands used to line up all the trucks at one of the pits each year for a fleet photograph), but I fear that when he was moved to Tilcon’s office in Harrogate, many of the photos may have been thrown away. I’ve asked my mum to see if she can find any of them, and if she does I’ll scan them and post them here.

If anyone happens to remember my dad Roy, he’s still alive (he’s almost 88) but the poor old lad has fallen victim to Alzheimers and now lives in a home in Ripon, Yorkshire. His room contains several photos of his Lewis Brothers and Tilcon days, along with a few Corgi-sized trucks which he had painted in the full Tilcon livery all those years ago. Up to a couple of years ago he could recall nearly every truck he’d ever bought, along with 90% of the drivers who ever worked with him.

Nostalgia? Nah… it’s a thing of the past… :wink:

Brilliant, lets hope your Mum finds them photos.Oh and by the way welcome to the trucknet forum :smiley:

Fatmanstratman, I am another who enjoyed your post it would be great if you could find any old photos, and welcome to Trucknet.
Oh by the way John, I remember my dad telling me about one of Tommy Lamb’s drivers getting badly injured after collecting a load of sand at Sandiway sometime in the late 50’s, I think it might have been Arthur Barker ? … I will have to check with him again. But he had stopped on the A556 near the river Weaver bridge, and was stood on his front bumper cleaning the windscreen when another lorry ran into the back of his.

GAZ70:
hayday regarding pop’s motors,i now a bloke who did the container job for a few years,he used to take roll’s -royce cars to felixstowe docks,and then come back empty,roll’s-royce paid for the return journey so there was never a bck load :slight_smile:

hi gazo a friend asked me to ask you if you have to brothers named kevin and steve the lad asking is kevin chadwick from sandbach hes on hayes chemicals paul

yes doby steve and kevin are my brothers,kev is on nights for roberts bakery and steve is driving tankers for nenus,chadda drove for hays chemicals didn’t he?,i’m shure thats where he knows them two from.

Hi Gaz70 & doby3926 Chaddy is still on for what used to be Hays its now called Brentag,he is related to Jack Chadwick who ran the transport firm on Station rd Sandbach.He was at Hays when I was in the traffic office in 2002 other drivers there were Tony Newman.Shaun Taylor, Steve & Kevin illage(your brothers gaz) Mark?-Pete? & Peter Mellor.Sean Smith was transport manager at the time and then exel took over the running of the transport and it all changed from there onwards.I see your Steve now and then when he delivers the oil for our place from Nynas.

i made a mess of spelling nynas stanfield,still you know what i mean :laughing: :laughing:

GAZ70:
yes doby steve and kevin are my brothers,kev is on nights for roberts bakery and steve is driving tankers for nenus,chadda drove for hays chemicals didn’t he?,i’m shure thats where he knows them two from.

yes chaddys still on hayes its now called BRENNTAG hes running to belgium mainley i talk to him most days

A cheshire haulier still going strong, although now known just as Coates. Part of the same group as HW Coates of Cosby and Rugby.

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Big Rich:
A cheshire haulier still going strong, although now known just as Coates. Part of the same group as HW Coates of Cosby and Rugby.

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is billy bassett still on for them richy…doby3926

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Not sure, sorry. I’m based up in Glasgow so dont see much of the Middlewich guys. Most of our freight is trunked at night but next time ine is in I shall ask the question.

Big Rich:
[is billy bassett still on for them richy…doby3926

Not sure, sorry. I’m based up in Glasgow so dont see much of the Middlewich guys. Most of our freight is trunked at night but next time ine is in I shall ask the question.
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ok richy i worked with billy in the early 70s on crs sandbach he left there and went to firmin coates at byly as it was then a joint venture between alan firmin from linton kent and harry coates of cosby liecester

Fatmanstratman:
Hi everyone - my first post here, so please forgive a newbie!

Thanks to the marvels of the internet, I spotted this particular thread whilst looking for something completely non-related.

I’m neither a driver or an owner, but if anyone is interested, I can probably supply a some information & pictures etc. regarding LEWIS BROTHERS of Cuddington, which used to be situated on Norley Road next to Cuddington Station. My mum Mary used to work at the telephone exchange, and fondly remembers that the old telephone number for the company used to be Sandiway 146 (how times have changed!).

My dad, Roy Williams, was Transport Director at Lewis’s, from after the war until it was taken over by LSM (Lime Sand Mortar) and subsequently Thomas Tilling (which then became TILCON, in the late 60s). After the owner and his wife, ALAN & PHYLIS LEWIS retired to Anglesey in 1951, he ran the business with fellow director (Sales & Marketing) Derek Tompkinson (now deceased), and I spent many, many happy hours both in the yard and at the sand pits in Cheshire which they used to own. I recall that the two main pits were on the Tarporley Road and at Pettypool (near Whitegate?). Derek was married to Alan’s sister Florence (Flo). Alan’s daughter Sylvia (coincidentally married to John Lynch of LYNCH TRANSPORT, mentioned earlier in this thread) also used to work at the company.

Their fleet was mainly Fodens (for the 8 wheelers) and Bedford TKs for the smaller stuff. Their livery was cream cabs with dark green bodies (does anybody remember the little slogan on the back of their trucks? “Yes - another load of washed pit sand!” - my dad came up with that and was really proud of it… heh heh!). I also used to see other trucks in the yard belonging to a company called CHESHIRE SAND, who had mainly Bedfords with light green cabs and dark green bodies.

The fitter who used to keep all the trucks on the road was Eric Bennett - now 88 and still alive, living with his wife Barbara in Sandiway. Eric was Alan’s brother-in-law.

The only drivers’ names I can remember (it was a long time ago!) were Herbert Cliff, and Alan’s brothers-in-law, Doug & Ron Bennett. As you will gather, it truely was a “family business”.

I also recall that the fleet used to contain a number of Atkinson 8 wheelers, and at least one Albion. At one time, some of the really old Bedfords still had wooden cabs!

When the business was sold to LSM, all the trucks were painted a creamy white colour, with the circular badge containing a trowel in the middle with the letters LSM around it. Once Thomas Tilling took over, the trucks then sported the familiar light blue and burgundy livery with the TILCON logo along the side.

The washed pit sand was pumped out from the ground with water, which then drained back into the pit and the clean sand was dried before being transported. One abiding memory was when they needed to break through the layer of hard clay to get to the sand underneath, so my dad called in the legendary Derek “Blaster” Bates to do the job. He made everybody laugh so much the old man went straight out and bought one of Blaster’s LPs. It contained some pretty saucy stuff and I wasn’t allowed to listen to it, so I used to wait until they’d gone out before playing it on the old stereogram. That LP still makes me laugh to this day.

Anyway - I’ve rambled on enough. I hope this may bring back memories to some of you old 'uns, and if there’s anything else you can add I’d love to hear it. I know my dad kept lots and lots of photos of the fleet (local photographer and family friend Lawrence Sands used to line up all the trucks at one of the pits each year for a fleet photograph), but I fear that when he was moved to Tilcon’s office in Harrogate, many of the photos may have been thrown away. I’ve asked my mum to see if she can find any of them, and if she does I’ll scan them and post them here.

If anyone happens to remember my dad Roy, he’s still alive (he’s almost 88) but the poor old lad has fallen victim to Alzheimers and now lives in a home in Ripon, Yorkshire. His room contains several photos of his Lewis Brothers and Tilcon days, along with a few Corgi-sized trucks which he had painted in the full Tilcon livery all those years ago. Up to a couple of years ago he could recall nearly every truck he’d ever bought, along with 90% of the drivers who ever worked with him.

Nostalgia? Nah… it’s a thing of the past… :wink:

Nice post - hope your dad’s ok. You being from around the mid cheshire zone, you might remember an uncle of mine who may have worked for Lewis. His name was Jim Sanders (sadly passed away some years now) and he lived in Acton Bridge. I know he worked for many years at Gibsons but he seemed to know most of the tipper / sand and stone operators around the area and had driven for many firms (think he did the coaches as well)

Hiya…there was a ray lewis who worked at steve jolly’s(motorbike racer)car sales in leek(1972ish) he had a photo of
a line of lewis fodens in the office. he told me he was a son…i belive he has his own car sales in congleton
nowadays.
John

Hiya…i don’t know how to move pikkies…if you look on the scrapbook site theres 2 photo’s of gordon plants
erf’s on page 244
John

Does anyone remember who owned Fourways Quarry in the 60’s, and where were these old sand quarries.

Gibsons.
Adsheads … was this where the lake now is at Farmwood ?
Martins … was this Dingle Bank ?

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Back when Stockport was in Cheshire (the good old days) there were plenty around, here are some of my favories from the 70s.

Barber Turnock nice green and red atki artics on general
Nelstrops running a right mixed breed out of there own flour mill
Western tpt another mixed bag with Guys and AECs
Stanleys several F86s on general
Leggetts European with a lot of Atkis at the time
Warburtons ERF 4 wheelers in striking burgundy
Eric Craigs More ERFs in burgundy
Allinsons AEC and Foden tippers that went onto Maggy D’s
Dennis Howden A really tidy Crusader in fancy paint and loads of bling (it’ll never bloody catch on Ha)
Davies Bros Still running white DAFs
DOW freight we all know

Then some extras
Joseph Hoyles once had a depot in Congleton
Eric Edwards from Mobberley still running at Nelstrops ( I remember their Dads 1st Clydesdale)

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