Polish minimum wage is around 600 Euros per month.
Let’s say double that 1,200 euros per month.( Doubtful ).
20 days worked per month = 60 Euros per day 300 Euros per week.
Hard to fathom a person who spends his obviously very boring life arguing on the internet about haulage actually has no clue whatsoever. EE truckers have always had tax-free night out money as their main subsistence. Always. In my last job as a driver I got paid €400 in wages. Plus €2000 in n/o money. €80 per day, every day regardless if driving or weekended. That was in 2016, it’s up to around €3000 a month net by now.
The whole of 2012 I drove for a Swedish company after subbying for three years. 400SEK daily wage, 700SEK daily night out money.
The money british drivers get paid is nothing to be envious of.
And you have to search really hard to find someone who gets paid pure mileage. Didn’t know of anyone who got that even back in 2016.
Hush now. Your (mine, and others) real life experience matters not compared to the mind of Carryfast (who i believe has never done UK-Euro stuff let alone lived and worked out there). Rejoice in how wrong you (and me, and others) who have done the miles have actually experienced and instea base everything on rumours and hearsay
Tarmaceater:
According to the head honcho of the RHA , our EE cousins are gone forever from next year as they can’t afford to be parked up for days or longer and need to be rolling to make money , if this does happens, that will finish the export from the UK to Europe and beyond as nobody can compete with their cheap rates and nothing will be imported from Europe so no more cheap tat that the English will queue for hours to buy and have no idea where it came from .
If you take a large EE fleet of 6000 trucks , and 500 are parked up not earning in the UK , can you blame them ?
And who would want to be a driver when young see 20 mile queues of lorries on the motorway with no toilet, hot food and showers .
Most Eastern Europe company get money as well if truck standing at customer or waiting for load.All contract belong for big companies-Dsv,Shenker and …Sometime for company better stay 2-3 day instead go empty 500km.
Polish minimum wage is around 600 Euros per month.
Let’s say double that 1,200 euros per month.( Doubtful ).
20 days worked per month = 60 Euros per day 300 Euros per week.
Hard to fathom a person who spends his obviously very boring life arguing on the internet about haulage actually has no clue whatsoever. EE truckers have always had tax-free night out money as their main subsistence. Always. In my last job as a driver I got paid €400 in wages. Plus €2000 in n/o money. €80 per day, every day regardless if driving or weekended. That was in 2016, it’s up to around €3000 a month net by now.
The whole of 2012 I drove for a Swedish company after subbying for three years. 400SEK daily wage, 700SEK daily night out money.
The money british drivers get paid is nothing to be envious of.
And you have to search really hard to find someone who gets paid pure mileage. Didn’t know of anyone who got that even back in 2016.
If you read what I said the choice between working in Poland on decent distance work v uk zb work is a no brainer.That equation just helps my case.
The Brits are obviously being shafted by a tax scam added to a wage scam.We all know who picks up the bill in both cases.
The Brits are paying for the destruction of their own haulage industry and resulting under employment who would have thought it.
No problem plenty of local multi drop and driver warehouse/factory/office jobs to go round while the EE’s take all the best work.
Andrejs:
Was worked in UK for about 2400-2800 per month.Now work for Eastern Europe companies.My earning 2100 euro per calendar month after tax for any hours,no magnet,one card,nobody push.Not big difference with money.Lithuanian company pay more,about 2400 euro per month.It is British [zb] who all Eastern Euro work for small money.
Unless you were doing the same work you cannot compare wages, most UK drivers who tramp around the UK spend 2 out of 7 days at home, most drivers who tramp round Europe are doing a month at a time in the lorry so divide your 2100euro by 28= 75euro per day and then divide your £2400 by 20 = £120 per day.
To be fair magnets are old hat nowadays with other ways of beating the taco being used the proof of this is in the various European transport press publications, or just drive past any UK weighbridge.
Andrejs:
Most Eastern Europe company get money as well if truck standing at customer or waiting for load.All contract belong for big companies-Dsv,Shenker and …Sometime for company better stay 2-3 day instead go empty 500km.
I’d like to see some proof of that though. After a decade in EE haulage, three and a half of which as an owner/driver, I am yet to see any of the big players in regular haulage, including the ones you named, pay a dime for waiting for a load, unless it’s under special circumstances. 99% of the time it’s not.
Unload in Thessaloniki on Monday morning, flat out down to Istanbul empty for Tuesday afternoon… and wait for the groupage load that’s ready Friday lunchtime. 3+ days waiting for which DSV paid a grand total of zero. Same goes for customs.
But when you pull the trailer of a big player, they will still try to get you a load asap. Not so for the ones pulling their own and looking for loads on the spot market.
The reason the driver still gets paid, is that it’s a sellers market out there for drivers as well and don’t think many would agree to such terms as an employee nowadays. I’ve done a weeks wait in Bcn a couple of times and it did my head in even though I got paid €130 per diem for the pleasure, no way in hell I would’ve done it for free. I did eventually send in my notice after waiting for a load for three days in rural Sweden.
Andrejs:
Was worked in UK for about 2400-2800 per month.Now work for Eastern Europe companies.My earning 2100 euro per calendar month after tax for any hours,no magnet,one card,nobody push.Not big difference with money.Lithuanian company pay more,about 2400 euro per month.It is British [zb] who all Eastern Euro work for small money.
Unless you were doing the same work you cannot compare wages, most UK drivers who tramp around the UK spend 2 out of 7 days at home, most drivers who tramp round Europe are doing a month at a time in the lorry so divide your 2100euro by 28= 75euro per day and then divide your £2400 by 20 = £120 per day.
To be fair magnets are old hat nowadays with other ways of beating the taco being used the proof of this is in the various European transport press publications, or just drive past any UK weighbridge.
First ,it is nothing wrong if people stay in. Can 7 day per week.Somerime it is more enjoy that seat at home.In Europe Saturday,Sunday near no any unloading,loading,much less night work.Can park truck near town,go watch around and more.We can discard money for 20 day or 28 but for most people more important monthly total earning.
Andrejs:
Most Eastern Europe company get money as well if truck standing at customer or waiting for load.All contract belong for big companies-Dsv,Shenker and …Sometime for company better stay 2-3 day instead go empty 500km.
I’d like to see some proof of that though. After a decade in EE haulage, three and a half of which as an owner/driver, I am yet to see any of the big players in regular haulage, including the ones you named, pay a dime for waiting for a load, unless it’s under special circumstances. 99% of the time it’s not.
Unload in Thessaloniki on Monday morning, flat out down to Istanbul empty for Tuesday afternoon… and wait for the groupage load that’s ready Friday lunchtime. 3+ days waiting for which DSV paid a grand total of zero. Same goes for customs.
But when you pull the trailer of a big player, they will still try to get you a load asap. Not so for the ones pulling their own and looking for loads on the spot market.
The reason the driver still gets paid, is that it’s a sellers market out there for drivers as well and don’t think many would agree to such terms as an employee nowadays. I’ve done a weeks wait in Bcn a couple of times and it did my head in even though I got paid €130 per diem for the pleasure, no way in hell I would’ve done it for free. I did eventually send in my notice after waiting for a load for three days in rural Sweden.
All depend from contract.Now to many big haulage company in EU offer some money per killometr and give guaranty who will be at least some 10000 km or they pay money for standing truck.
Simply international driving job for any big or small money not to everyone.This is good,enjoy job for one person who like work alone drive via different ,spend weekend away,Wath TV in cab,cooking.And no good for another person who just want go home Asap and just watch to wife or do something else.
Andrejs:
All depend from contract.Now to many big haulage company in EU offer some money per kilometer and give guaranty who will be at least some 10000 km or they pay money for standing truck.
So they are not actually paying for waiting time, but guarantee a given amount of mileage, which is not the same really. 10k is still really crap and I think Walter offered that back when there were a few Estonian subs left there, about ten years ago. The rate they paid per km was dismal though, so didn’t really matter, you were in the poorhouse anyway. There is good reason behind why there are only Bulgarians without functioning brakes pulling Walter in continental Europe nowadays.
It seems I got attacked for only quoting something the RHA have said on the news, don’t shoot the messenger and all that jazz, I am perplexed to the insult , but hey ho, carry on .
I was aware that the cheap tat comes from the Far East on container ships but in poor English skills I failed to mention these ships can also unload in Europe and hauliers can bring the freight from Europe to the UK .
For example a container of toys from Hong Kong to Lisbon , empty the contents to change the packaging, reload it, then truck the toys to the UK from Lisbon .
I had a similar load from Madrid with cash tills for the BP garages in the UK , I loaded in Madrid but the origin was the Far East off the container ship in Valencia or Barcelona.
Slightly off tack but we now have to swallow a 45.00 charge per delivery to the EU from Jan21 and probably reduce prices in case if tariffs just to ensure our customers don’t move to German or other EU27 suppliers. Don’t get me started on the extra hassle of selling to northern ireland now and the import side. Ah well at least we have blue passports and our fish back.
spacemanZ10:
Slightly off tack but we now have to swallow a 45.00 charge per delivery to the EU from Jan21 and probably reduce prices in case if tariffs just to ensure our customers don’t move to German or other EU27 suppliers. Don’t get me started on the extra hassle of selling to northern ireland now and the import side. Ah well at least we have blue passports and our fish back.
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Fish? Back?
The fish this country eats (cod, haddock, similar white fish), comes from the Atlantic , and some from the North sea. Quota permitting, we can already catch that anyway. But we dont, because moby in the UK wanted to invest in the trawlers needed for that kind of fishing. Instead, the UK Fisher men concentrate on the inshore species, like crab and other shell fish, which have no market in the UK, but are popular in Europe. And guess what, because theres not much white fish to be caught in UK waters, what did UK fishermen do??
Go on, guess…
They sold their Quotas to European fishermen…
98% of the Welsh quota was sold to a Dutch firm, and is fished by a single trawler…
Andrejs:
Simply international driving job for any big or small money not to everyone.This is good,enjoy job for one person who like work alone drive via different ,spend weekend away,Wath TV in cab,cooking.And no good for another person who just want go home Asap and just watch to wife or do something else.
Ironically tramping is called that for a reason.Just that the distances and waits on international work can mean being weekended regularly.
But at the end of the day not much different to UK tramping regards living in a truck cab.
As opposed to International trunking which was/is the best of all worlds.Rarely more than one weekend out if at all followed by quality time off at home between runs.Dead mans shoes work as known by those who worked for Seabourne or TNT/IPEC etc.It seems now also fallen to the foreign competition.
Andrejs:
All depend from contract.Now to many big haulage company in EU offer some money per kilometer and give guaranty who will be at least some 10000 km or they pay money for standing truck.
So they are not actually paying for waiting time, but guarantee a given amount of mileage, which is not the same really. 10k is still really crap and I think Walter offered that back when there were a few Estonian subs left there, about ten years ago. The rate they paid per km was dismal though, so didn’t really matter, you were in the poorhouse anyway. There is good reason behind why there are only Bulgarians without functioning brakes pulling Walter in continental Europe nowadays.
10000 euro per month for move not own trailer not bad money gor vompany.Not all Uk truck earn 9000pound per month…But about Bulgarian truck.Old truck can be as well in good condition.And 1-2 years nice looking truck can be with ready naked brake pads,bad tyres.For Walters work not only Bulgarian.
the maoster:
Bloody Dutchmen, coming over here and stealing all of our fish…
We’re not stealing it, we bought it fair and square .
Of the four nations, only the Scots and Northern Irish have retained nearly 100% of their allocated quota. Even the patriotic English have sold more than half of their godgiven fishing rights to European Fishing companies.
To be honest, it’s a bit more involved than Dai and Kevin simply selling their quota for a quick bit of cash. A combination of an old fishing fleet that needed a lot of investment, at the exact time when actual landing amounts were severely curtailed because of low fish stocks, meant that many of the English and Welsh decided to pack it in, and sell their quota.
The upshot of this is though, that even if we would regain all the fishing rights in our waters, we dont have the fleet (nor, after nearly a generation out of it, the expertise) to fish it…
And given the choice of a cosy job ashore, with a regular income, or a steady dole cheque, how many of the young would choose to go out fishing, in all ■■■■■■ weathers, with wages being reliant on an uncertain catch (and fluctuating fish price)?
The UK wont get back the fishing fleet it once had. Just like it wont get back the Empire…
Andrejs:
10000 euro per month for move not own trailer not bad money gor vompany.Not all Uk truck earn 9000pound per month…But about Bulgarian truck.Old truck can be as well in good condition.And 1-2 years nice looking truck can be with ready naked brake pads,bad tyres.For Walters work not only Bulgarian.
10 grand a month for how many trucks a month? Including 30% VAT maybe.
About the Bulgarian trucks - I don’t know what reality you are living in, but the heaps of junk the Bulgarians drive can only be described as such. Granted they keep the worst examples in Scandinavia, as there are fewer checkpoints.
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