Time to reignite this just for Gingerfold
dieseldave:
les-p:
My vote’s yes.Thank God that TruckNet doesn’t work in that way.
In his post just under your OP, 5thwheel has saved me from some typing, so I’ll echo those words and ask you to take note of them.
Advice:
If you don’t like, or are not interested in what Carryfast writes, then why not simply scroll past it.It’s well known that Carryfast has made (other words are available ) his own ‘reputation’ on TruckNet, but I’ll just point out to you that he’s as entitled to express his view (Googled or otherwise ) as you are to express your view.
A reminder of what Dave stated earlier in this thread.
Colingl:
dieseldave:
les-p:
My vote’s yes.Thank God that TruckNet doesn’t work in that way.
In his post just under your OP, 5thwheel has saved me from some typing, so I’ll echo those words and ask you to take note of them.
Advice:
If you don’t like, or are not interested in what Carryfast writes, then why not simply scroll past it.It’s well known that Carryfast has made (other words are available ) his own ‘reputation’ on TruckNet, but I’ll just point out to you that he’s as entitled to express his view (Googled or otherwise ) as you are to express your view.
A reminder of what Dave stated earlier in this thread.
…and which is STILL current policy.
Just because Carryfast lives in a different world to the rest of us is not a reason to ostracise him, regardless of how crazy his posts are.
From what I see, every post he makes is factually incorrect (at least on the main forums) and most of the site bandwidth is taken up with people correcting him, which he then argues black is white, and round and round it goes, basically ruining every thread discussion. Perhaps a better idea, seeing as he hasn’t driven a truck in the past 30 years by own his admission, is limit his posts to the old-timer’s forum ?
DCPCFML:
From what I see, every post he makes is factually incorrect (at least on the main forums) and most of the site bandwidth is taken up with people correcting him, which he then argues black is white, and round and round it goes, basically ruining every thread discussion. Perhaps a better idea, seeing as he hasn’t driven a truck in the past 30 years by own his admission, is limit his posts to the old-timer’s forum ?
I make it that you’re quite right on all the points you made, but… 5th wheel’s point above still stands, as does TN policy.
Mind you, he’s treading a VERY fine line between the stuff he posts and falling foul of TN’s ‘random crap’ rule.
Hmm… I’ll give this some further thought.
Stifling free speech, no matter how distasteful or just plain frustrating one finds it is IMO the start of a slippery slope.
the maoster:
Stifling free speech, no matter how distasteful or just plain frustrating one finds it is IMO the start of a slippery slope.
True and I broadly agree. But there comes a point where you abuse that right by posting endless streams of factually incorrect crap and Geoffrey passed that point a long time ago. His posts and the 20 pages of arguments and sniping that follow account for around 50% of this site’s content and bandwidth usage. There’s also the small detail that the right to free speech does not apply when you’re using someone else’s platform to do it as they are the ones who dictate the terms of engagement via their site rules. He’s making incorrect statements and arguing with people over tachos, DCPC, WTD, double-deckers and various other stuff that he has absolutely no knowledge or experience of as none of them even existed 30 years ago when he last drove a truck.
^^^^ again true, and I broadly agree. I’m just not comfortable with the thought of banning somebody purely because they ■■■■ us off. CF always has to have the last word, attributes beliefs to those who he’s arguing with with absolutely zero basis, and lives in a weird mental space indeed, but in as much as I’d prefer to keep the bad driver where I can see him, CF is at least observable out in the open.
At the end of the day, that’s what the Foe button is for.
the maoster:
^^^^ again true, and I broadly agree. I’m just not comfortable with the thought of banning somebody purely because they ■■■■ us off. CF always has to have the last word, attributes beliefs to those who he’s arguing with with absolutely zero basis, and lives in a weird mental space indeed, but in as much as I’d prefer to keep the bad driver where I can see him, CF is at least observable out in the open.At the end of the day, that’s what the Foe button is for.
Very true maoster, but there’s a balance to be drawn between free speech Vs random crap, there’s also the fact that he posts the same ■■■■■■■■ over and over by copying and pasting between different topics.
Just for clarity, there’s no way that a ban is even being considered.
the maoster:
^^^^ again true, and I broadly agree. I’m just not comfortable with the thought of banning somebody purely because they ■■■■ us off. CF always has to have the last word, attributes beliefs to those who he’s arguing with with absolutely zero basis, and lives in a weird mental space indeed, but in as much as I’d prefer to keep the bad driver where I can see him, CF is at least observable out in the open.At the end of the day, that’s what the Foe button is for.
More of this ‘broadly agreeing’ sauce in order , but… ! taking it a step further, you have to remember that this site as a whole is run as a revenue generating business. If you were running a business (say a pub) and you had a bloody nuisance of a customer regularly coming in your pub arguing with your customers about stuff he knows nothing about, refuses to ever accept or admit he’s wrong, and generally causing an unpleasant atmosphere to the point where your customers dread seeing him and stop coming into your pub altogether thus putting your business at risk, would you ignore that and let it continue because, “meh, he just lives in a weird mental space”?
It’s not just about him, it’s how he ‘fits in’ with the community as a whole. Healthy debate and constructive argument is fine, but show me a thread where he’s posted that hasn’t turned into a [zb]show. As soon as his moniker appears you know that the thread is RIP.
IMO expecting all your members to use the ‘foe’ button** and telling them to ■■■■ it up and deal with it is just a cop out. If it gets to that point and prior warnings about their conduct have been ignored then the problem needs dealing with at forum management level with more robust measures.
** this function doesn’t block quote trees and he just loves his quote embeds.
I get your point, seriously I do and we ain’t a million miles apart in our views. It would be easier for me to shout “ban him” if I disliked the fella, but I don’t, anymore than I dislike the bloke in our village throwing stones at the moon.
I honestly don’t know the answer, he’s already on premod so without wanting to increase the mods workload, they’ve got to wade through his twaddle before it’s posted so maybe a tad more “delete” on their behalf would suffice?
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Could it be so?
Why doesn’t the font of all knowledge grace us with his presence and give an explination ?
Rather strange he doesn’t wish to comment on this occasion
the maoster:
… I honestly don’t know the answer, he’s already on premod so without wanting to increase the mods workload, they’ve got to wade through his twaddle before it’s posted so maybe a tad more “delete” on their behalf would suffice?
Sorry maoster, but the most we can say is that we use all options open to us under the Forum Rules.
The same rules prevent the Mod/Admin Team from discussing this Carryfast business, or any specifics relating to any other member.
For all any of us know, Carryfast may simply be busy elsewhere.
dieseldave:
the maoster:
… I honestly don’t know the answer, he’s already on premod so without wanting to increase the mods workload, they’ve got to wade through his twaddle before it’s posted so maybe a tad more “delete” on their behalf would suffice?Sorry maoster, but the most we can say is that we use all options open to us under the Forum Rules.
The same rules prevent the Mod/Admin Team from discussing this Carryfast business, or any specifics relating to any other member.For all any of us know, Carryfast may simply be busy elsewhere.
YOU WISH
He’s maybe using his unlimited amount of knowledge of everything under the sun on an official basis, and making money out of it.
The CCA.
‘The Carryfast Consultancy Agency Ltd’
(The ‘Ltd’ bit refers to his actual amount of non Google knowledge .)
Sorry Carryfast, only joshing .
ERF-NGC-European:
Dipster:
Of course the OP might have been CF himself posting under a false flag to see what reaction it caused…I’ve been monitoring his posts for ages. There is no malice in CF’s posts. His record for attacking the post rather than attacking the poster is almost impeccable! A good example to other posters, then.
Ro
Trucknet has failed recently with the input of newcomers, you are just not clever enough!
Wheel Nut:
Trucknet has failed recently with the input of newcomers, you are just not clever enough!
Genuine question, what would you have us do differently?
Colingl:
Wheel Nut:
Trucknet has failed recently with the input of newcomers, you are just not clever enough!Genuine question, what would you have us do differently?
Check IP addresses you must know where multiple log ins are coming from and restrict that to one account
(Genuine question, what have you done to Carryfast)