Radar19:
The only thing different behind a car and truck nav is that the truck nav’s maps will have the restrictions on it. You’ll have fun when you miss your turning and the nav tries to send you don’t some really tiny streets to turn around because they have no weight, height or size restriction on them. To the nav it thinks its just another road for you, you should be using your set of eyeballs Mk1 and common sense 1.0.
Without going details… I can certainly vouch for this glitch. If for whatever reason you don’t follow the sat nav be very wary of where it sends you to turn around. Best to pull over if possible and ring the customer or consult Google maps.
nigelw1982:
i got a xgody truck and car satnav of eBay for £35 and to be fair for the cheap price it works really well
I just ordered one there now,
hope it works well in Eire!!!
expect it not to know any new roundabouts or newish bypasses etc as being the crack in the ■■■ of nowhere then itl prob be a bit behind and you will see yourself driving across a field parrallel to the new road your driving on. apart from a dozen areas of dublin theres no postcodes,just get close and ask someone( be prepared to wait a while till they confer with most of the other shop owners and passers by).if they dont know,then they will give you directions to someone who will know… if your in the north,then this is the only one you will require youtube.com/watch?v=I5rjZ709gsc
Actrosman:
I use a TT5150 and find the Live Traffic crap! M4 eb has been shut lately between 14-12…easy diversion along the A4 from A338 but would it bloody reroute? Would it bollox! ‘She’ kept telling me to turn down this near on 120 degree left (minute or so from j14) instead of doing the obvious ‘trunk road’. When I got on the A4, ‘she’ was still barking on about turning round and then said ‘a road is closed on your route…would you like to avoid it’!! It seemed that the closure was at the old ‘works unit only’ slip road and not the junction itself. Probably crap info sent to TT who should really check this stuff out first but for a £50p/a sub, it ain’t worth it.
I think live services are good because it tells you when to expect a queue so you have a bit of warning to be extra vigilant. On the flip side it annoys me when it keeps asking me if I want to take an alternative route that is 2 minutes faster. It’s got voice recognition so I end up shouting at the f–kin thing, but sadly it doesn’t know what f–k off means.
robroy:
Some of you lot crack me up. If you can’t do the job with a map and/or a basic car sat nav as a guide you shouldn’t be doing it ffs.
I reckon that some of you lot that need a sat nav to find your own arse holes, would be totally [zb] ed if some kind of astronomical catastrophe occurred, where all satellites were rendered useless, you would be scared [zb] less to leave the yard.
How many of you could honestly find a back street in say Eindhoven for example, or even Glasgow without using a sat nav. (Drivers of more than 10 years need not answer that. )
Is all you map readers clogging up the laybys and forecourts trying to find your glasses to search through your collection of 300 town and city maps and pinpoint your drop that causes others to be over drive time trying to find a pull in
Confession time…, you aint that far wrong,I only got a sat nav in the first place cos I could no longer read the small print on the AtoZs …and even they were from the 80s, so were no bloody good anyway!
Well my stupidity combined with my tom tom bollocksed me almost on the bridge in Lifton Devon last week so your not wrong either.
Actrosman:
I use a TT5150 and find the Live Traffic crap! M4 eb has been shut lately between 14-12…easy diversion along the A4 from A338 but would it bloody reroute? Would it bollox! ‘She’ kept telling me to turn down this near on 120 degree left (minute or so from j14) instead of doing the obvious ‘trunk road’. When I got on the A4, ‘she’ was still barking on about turning round and then said ‘a road is closed on your route…would you like to avoid it’!! It seemed that the closure was at the old ‘works unit only’ slip road and not the junction itself. Probably crap info sent to TT who should really check this stuff out first but for a £50p/a sub, it ain’t worth it.
I think live services are good because it tells you when to expect a queue so you have a bit of warning to be extra vigilant. On the flip side it annoys me when it keeps asking me if I want to take an alternative route that is 2 minutes faster. It’s got voice recognition so I end up shouting at the f–kin thing, but sadly it doesn’t know what [zb] off means.
This drives me insane as well…especially at night as the alternative route screen has higher brightness than the map screen as well!! Be interested to know of you have found a way to stop it without switching off traffic and alternative routes completely?
I quite like live traffic with some journeys. I have the choice of A50 & M1 or M6 M1 quite a lot so I often use it to see if anything horrendous happens on either road without waiting for traffic news…it helped me the other week with delays on m6 south from Preston. Traffic news mentioned delays earlier in the evening and matrix signs warned of 35 mins delay. TomTom said no problems. Chanced it down the m6 and had my foot to the floor all the way, hardly anything else on the road. Further down matrix signs were warning of long delays on m60 anti clockwise…seems a lot of people diverted through there?!?
robroy:
Some of you lot crack me up. If you can’t do the job with a map and/or a basic car sat nav as a guide you shouldn’t be doing it ffs.
I reckon that some of you lot that need a sat nav to find your own arse holes, would be totally [zb] ed if some kind of astronomical catastrophe occurred, where all satellites were rendered useless, you would be scared [zb] less to leave the yard.
How many of you could honestly find a back street in say Eindhoven for example, or even Glasgow without using a sat nav. (Drivers of more than 10 years need not answer that. )
For the record I use a basic Tom Tom Euro, as a GUIDE, I wouldn’t dream of spending an extortionate amount on some fancy over engineered crap as I possess a brain which allows me to use initiative and common sense
Why bother with paper maps when you can zoom in on maps of your route (basically just the destination bit) on a sat nav or Google maps. Of course if they went wrong it’d cause mayhem, not least because the roads are now a lot busier than years ago with less places to pull over and more restrictions on where you can go. If drivers from 30 years ago suddenly found themselves in 2015 im sure with their experience they’d cope, but it wouldn’t be as easy as it was.
Tris:
If drivers from 30 years ago suddenly found themselves in 2015 im sure with their experience they’d cope, but it wouldn’t be as easy as it was.
As easy as it was?? .Are you for real?..the job has never been so ■■■■ easy as it is today.
It has been dumbed down to the point where you need little to no skills to be a driver. Not just in lack of planning and map reading either, but the actual driving of a truck today is just like a car but bigger, my Gran could drive one. That is why there are so many ■■■■ Whits in charge of trucks today, anybody can drive them.
Tris:
If drivers from 30 years ago suddenly found themselves in 2015 im sure with their experience they’d cope, but it wouldn’t be as easy as it was.
As easy as it was?? .Are you for real?..the job has never been so ■■■■ easy as it is today.
It has been dumbed down to the point where you need little to no skills to be a driver. Not just in lack of planning and map reading either, but the actual driving of a truck today is just like a car but bigger, my Gran could drive one. That is why there are so many ■■■■ Whits in charge of trucks today, anybody can drive them.
Putting aside the differences between the vehicles (you had to turn the steering wheel a bit more back in the day, trucks are bigger now etc), the fact remains that towns and cities are bigger now, there are more restrictions on where you can go and where you can stop, there are far more cars and other trucks, and the standard of driving (courtesy) of other road users is now non existent, not to mention speed cameras, digital tachos, trackers, dash cams, health and safety, the inability to make a few extra quid carrying an unofficial back load etc.
Tris:
If drivers from 30 years ago suddenly found themselves in 2015 im sure with their experience they’d cope, but it wouldn’t be as easy as it was.
As easy as it was?? .Are you for real?..the job has never been so ■■■■ easy as it is today.
It has been dumbed down to the point where you need little to no skills to be a driver. Not just in lack of planning and map reading either, but the actual driving of a truck today is just like a car but bigger, my Gran could drive one. That is why there are so many ■■■■ Whits in charge of trucks today, anybody can drive them.
Putting aside the differences between the vehicles (you had to turn the steering wheel a bit more back in the day, trucks are bigger now etc), the fact remains that towns and cities are bigger now, there are more restrictions on where you can go and where you can stop, there are far more cars and other trucks, and the standard of driving (courtesy) of other road users is now non existent, not to mention speed cameras, digital tachos, trackers, dash cams, health and safety, the inability to make a few extra quid carrying an unofficial back load etc.
Yeh, OK, can’t argue with any of that, but in terms of specific skills required, and the amount of initiative, common sense, driver decisions, and self instruction needed today (and applied ) compared to when you NEEDED all of those examples then or you could not do the job, I would say that you could never describe the job as being easier at that time compared to now.
To get back on thread, I suppose Google maps is, as it suggests, a ‘map’ but more tech than an old style Driver’s atlas, so maps are used still, but in a different form.
Still amazed (and amused) at how some drivers are so reliant on sat navs though.
Tris:
If drivers from 30 years ago suddenly found themselves in 2015 im sure with their experience they’d cope, but it wouldn’t be as easy as it was.
As easy as it was?? .Are you for real?..the job has never been so ■■■■ easy as it is today.
It has been dumbed down to the point where you need little to no skills to be a driver. Not just in lack of planning and map reading either, but the actual driving of a truck today is just like a car but bigger, my Gran could drive one. That is why there are so many ■■■■ Whits in charge of trucks today, anybody can drive them.
Putting aside the differences between the vehicles (you had to turn the steering wheel a bit more back in the day, trucks are bigger now etc), the fact remains that towns and cities are bigger now, there are more restrictions on where you can go and where you can stop, there are far more cars and other trucks, and the standard of driving (courtesy) of other road users is now non existent, not to mention speed cameras, digital tachos, trackers, dash cams, health and safety, the inability to make a few extra quid carrying an unofficial back load etc.
Yeh, OK, can’t argue with any of that, but in terms of specific skills required, and the amount of initiative, common sense, driver decisions, and self instruction needed today (and applied ) compared to when you NEEDED all of those examples then or you could not do the job, I would say that you could never describe the job as being easier at that time compared to now.
To get back on thread, I suppose Google maps is, as it suggests, a ‘map’ but more tech than an old style Driver’s atlas, so maps are used still, but in a different form.
Still amazed (and amused) at how some drivers are so reliant on sat navs though.
Robroy can I ask a couple of questions.
I’ve only been driving commercially for over a year as I was in the forces for a long time so forgive my ignorance.
Map reading isnt the problem as your only reading a road map.
What did you do 20 years ago before electronic data maps?
Did you have an A-Z for every town and city?
I don’t know how you would find these places I find myself without a good map of the local area (which I dont have) or digital data.
^^^ we used to carry a lot of A to Z’s with us. If however we were delivering to a town that we didn’t have a map for we’d either ask on the cb for directions or more commonly stop and ask. Obviously that won’t work today as most of the people you’d ask today have little or no grasp of the language!
Themoocher:
robroy can I ask a couple of questions.
I’ve only been driving commercially for over a year as I was in the forces for a long time so forgive my ignorance.
Map reading isnt the problem as your only reading a road map.
What did you do 20 years ago before electronic data maps?
Did you have an A-Z for every town and city?
I don’t know how you would find these places I find myself without a good map of the local area (which I dont have) or digital data.
Hiya mate, yeh the A to Zs were the thing then, maybe not every town and city but definitely the main ones. The other thing was arrive in the general vicinity, and ask directions at a garage or shop or whatever. As I said initiative and common sense.
I am not saying that sat navs are bad things, I have a basic one myself. What I am saying is that a lot of newer drivers today rely too much on them to the point of being totally ■■■■ ed without them.
Themoocher:
robroy can I ask a couple of questions.
I’ve only been driving commercially for over a year as I was in the forces for a long time so forgive my ignorance.
Map reading isnt the problem as your only reading a road map.
What did you do 20 years ago before electronic data maps?
Did you have an A-Z for every town and city?
I don’t know how you would find these places I find myself without a good map of the local area (which I dont have) or digital data.
Hiya mate, yeh the A to Zs were the thing then, maybe not every town and city but definitely the main ones. The other thing was arrive in the general vicinity, and ask directions at a garage or shop or whatever. As I said initiative and common sense.
I am not saying that sat navs are bad things, I have a basic one myself. What I am saying is that a lot of newer drivers today rely too much on them to the point of being totally [zb] ed without them.
I’ve got a whole storage crate full of a-z’s in my truck that I aquired but to be honest I’ve never used them. Most of them are out of date anyway so if it’s an industrial estate built post 1985 I can’t see them being much use. I think the only time I will get one out is if I’m told to head to inner London and it looks a bit tricky. Plus if the sat nav ever does conk out ive got a back up plan. I might not have driven artics for long but I’m old enough to remember driving before sat Navs to the football and looking out for the floodlight pylons.
Themoocher:
robroy can I ask a couple of questions.
I’ve only been driving commercially for over a year as I was in the forces for a long time so forgive my ignorance.
Map reading isnt the problem as your only reading a road map.
What did you do 20 years ago before electronic data maps?
Did you have an A-Z for every town and city?
I don’t know how you would find these places I find myself without a good map of the local area (which I dont have) or digital data.
Hiya mate, yeh the A to Zs were the thing then, maybe not every town and city but definitely the main ones. The other thing was arrive in the general vicinity, and ask directions at a garage or shop or whatever. As I said initiative and common sense.
I am not saying that sat navs are bad things, I have a basic one myself. What I am saying is that a lot of newer drivers today rely too much on them to the point of being totally [zb] ed without them.
Alright mate sound.
That’s where I would find problems finding streets and building in random towns and city’s without A-Zs for the areas.
Well,
used the “Xgody” 7" screen Chinese truck Sat Nav all this week and for the grand sum of £35.85 delivered 3days after ordering on Ebay think I’ve got a wee bargain
I’ve had the truck sat nav (a snooper) that belongs to the night driver wanting to send me down a weight limited road because it doesn’t want to go the route the car sat nav (tom tom) I have wants to go, which doesn’t have any restrictions on, I could never justify the cost of a (proper) truck sat nav.
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.Are you for real?..the job has never been so ■■■■ easy as it is today. 
