I don’t know I sold it two years ago, it didn’t then.
tofer:
So would the above car be liable to be towed away for having no tax? I ask because the land on which it is parked is part of my parent’s property and is on their deeds as such. The tarmac in front of the car is a shared private driveway.
Unfortunately no mate! Private property which does not form part of a road at any time (such as this piece of land) remains private property and therefore the car is judged to be parked off the highway and does not require a tax disc to remain there. Had it been on a grass verge directly adjoining a road then yes, it would be on the highway and could be towed away by the authorities for not displaying a valid tax disc.
I’d have been tempted to cut the handbrake cable and give it a nudge myself! 
Vehicles need to be taxed or need to have been declared not in use by S.O.R.N.If you do not declare S.O.R.N. you can expect a summons through the post after only a few weeks.
southcoastsurfer:
Unfortunately no mate! Private property which does not form part of a road at any time (such as this piece of land) remains private property and therefore the car is judged to be parked off the highway and does not require a tax disc to remain there. Had it been on a grass verge directly adjoining a road then yes, it would be on the highway and could be towed away by the authorities for not displaying a valid tax disc.I’d have been tempted to cut the handbrake cable and give it a nudge myself!
Seeing as it was my car I wouldn’t have done that anyway 
It’s long since sold on by now, I was only asking because we do store cars on the grass and if one is SORN’d for a while that’s where it goes.
Fortnight later got letter from carpark operator demanding £45 soon or it would be even more just like speeding fines.Why do we bother working?
Dont mind me asking but how did the car clamping company get your home address to send out the fine
ra dar:
Dont mind me asking but how did the car clamping company get your home address to send out the fine
They bought it from the DVLA for £2.50
Thats what annoys me, we get a lot ofcrap about keeping personal data secure then te barsewards at DVLA. sell my address to a car park operator.
As far as im aware private car park enforcement firms have no authority to demand money, they can only ask you for it. If you get a ticket from a private car parking firm you can safely ignore it. Any correspondance you can stick in the bin DONT REPLY as youll only get more begging letters. They wont take you to court as they know they are completely in the wrong, if anything you could take them to court for harrasment.
southcoastsurfer:
tofer:
So would the above car be liable to be towed away for having no tax? I ask because the land on which it is parked is part of my parent’s property and is on their deeds as such. The tarmac in front of the car is a shared private driveway.Unfortunately no mate! Private property which does not form part of a road at any time (such as this piece of land) remains private property and therefore the car is judged to be parked off the highway and does not require a tax disc to remain there. Had it been on a grass verge directly adjoining a road then yes, it would be on the highway and could be towed away by the authorities for not displaying a valid tax disc.
I’d have been tempted to cut the handbrake cable and give it a nudge myself!
you are spot on with that
Lankytim:
As far as im aware private car park enforcement firms have no authority to demand money, they can only ask you for it. If you get a ticket from a private car parking firm you can safely ignore it. Any correspondance you can stick in the bin DONT REPLY as youll only get more begging letters. They wont take you to court as they know they are completely in the wrong, if anything you could take them to court for harrasment.
I’ll second that, and it includes MSA’s overseen by CP Parking, just ignore the correspondance, they’ll send out some scary looking letters threatening all sorts of nasty things, its ■■■■■■■■, they’re nothing better than scamsters.
Big Joe:
Lankytim:
As far as im aware private car park enforcement firms have no authority to demand money, they can only ask you for it. If you get a ticket from a private car parking firm you can safely ignore it. Any correspondance you can stick in the bin DONT REPLY as youll only get more begging letters. They wont take you to court as they know they are completely in the wrong, if anything you could take them to court for harrasment.I’ll second that, and it includes MSA’s overseen by CP Parking, just ignore the correspondance, they’ll send out some scary looking letters threatening all sorts of nasty things, its [zb], they’re nothing better than scamsters.
In my view the most shocking thing about the whole clamping/parking fine thing is that these private companies can simply take your registration, and then go to the DVLA and get your name and address, all for a fiver!!! In this day and age a government agency such as the DVLA should not be handing out personal details to private companies, let alone making money out of it. shocking.
southcoastsurfer:
In my view the most shocking thing about the whole clamping/parking fine thing is that these private companies can simply take your registration, and then go to the DVLA and get your name and address, all for a fiver!!! In this day and age a government agency such as the DVLA should not be handing out personal details to private companies, let alone making money out of it. shocking.
Well this will make you laugh, the guide lines set out by the DVLA for the parking companies to consider before they apply for keeper details, state that the information will only be released to provide assistance for the prevention of crime and terrorism
Well what about the signs I have seen stating the conditions of parking and that by parking you are deemed to have accepted the conditions? Or are these just bunkum?
tofer:
Well what about the signs I have seen stating the conditions of parking and that by parking you are deemed to have accepted the conditions? Or are these just bunkum?
Unless its Council owned, its bunkum, you can put a notice in your vehicle window with your own conditions like,
WARNING
ANY DEVICES APPLIED TO THIS VEHICLE TO EFFECT ITS
IMMOBILSATION, ONCE FITTED BECOMES THE PROPERTY OF
THE VEHICLE OWNER.
BY APPLYING ANY SUCH IMMOBILISATION DEVICES, THE
ORIGINAL OWNER AGREES TO SURRENDER ALL RECOURSE TO
ANY CLAIMS FOR DAMAGE TO, OR LOSS OF THE DEVICE SHOULD
IT BE REMOVED AND TAKEN AWAY, AND AGREES TO REIMBURSE
THE VEHICLE OWNER FOR DAMAGES OR ANY LOSS FOR
DELAYS INCURRED.
You can give in, or play by their rules 
I like that, I’m going to make a few. Do you reckon they would get you off a criminal damage charge for destroying a wheel clamp?
tofer:
I like that, I’m going to make a few. Do you reckon they would get you off a criminal damage charge for destroying a wheel clamp?
I’m sorry your honour, what wheel clamp? 
The Law Lords in Scotland have decreed that clamping in Scotland and demanding money to release the vehicle is illegal. This applies whether on public or private land. No exceptions!
Therefore, if in Scotland, dont pay. If they dont release the vehicle, call a cop!
Alex
Sorry, forgot to add this bit:-
Clamping was banned in Scotland in 1992 and was decreed to beextortion & theft.
Alex
alexsaville:
The Law Lords in Scotland have decreed that clamping in Scotland and demanding money to release the vehicle is illegal. This applies whether on public or private land. No exceptions!
Therefore, if in Scotland, dont pay. If they dont release the vehicle, call a cop!
Alex
DVLA (subcontracted to NCP) have UK wide powers to clamp untaxed vehicles not subject to SORN. Whilst Scotland does indeed have it’s own legal system, this is one of the few pieces of legislation that is the same on both sides of the Scottish border and is the singular exception to the rule.
southcoastsurfer:
alexsaville:
The Law Lords in Scotland have decreed that clamping in Scotland and demanding money to release the vehicle is illegal. This applies whether on public or private land. No exceptions!
Therefore, if in Scotland, dont pay. If they dont release the vehicle, call a cop!
AlexDVLA (subcontracted to NCP) have UK wide powers to clamp untaxed vehicles not subject to SORN. Whilst Scotland does indeed have it’s own legal system, this is one of the few pieces of legislation that is the same on both sides of the Scottish border and is the singular exception to the rule.
Wheel clamping by private companies is illegal here in Scotland, but the DVLA, or agents acting on their behalf, are allowed to clamp or tow away vehicles which do not show current road tax or SORN. Private companies are usually only interested in parking areas