You say you are “new here” dont think you will get “old here”
You cant handle the job then bugger off and do what you did before.
You want to be a “truck driver” then do the job both rough and smooth and stop bloody whinging,or let some other bugger have a go who aint some 9 to 5 tart.
Once had to listen to some cretin bleat to a transport manager that he didnt get to see his little " precious" before he went to school in a morning because he had a late delivery.
FFs pass me the bloody sick bag.And the pillock didnt do tramp just nights.
NewLad:
I am currently on with a big firm, they always assume you can do 15hrs, this week I have reduced rest 3 times, twice for going over 13hrs and once to come in before having 11hrs off. I don’t mind doing them I come to work expecting to max my hrs as I’m on day rate they want to get as much out of you as possible. My question is can they make you work over 13hrs by putting an extra collection on you or should they only put you on a 12-13hr and the reduced is for traffic issues and just to get you home.
Take today as an example, I have been on collections all day, spent hours with my finger up my arse waiting at places to collect and at base waiting for more work. I need to be done for 20:00 as that’s 13hrs, I phone up at 1800 expecting back to base which is a good half hour then diesel up, paperwork, put trailer on bay and de-brief usually takes half hour at base so that would take me to 1900hrs a 12hr day. They give me 2 more collections, I’m new here so just take them and trot off there only 5 miles each apart, got to the first one its a 30 min wait to be loaded. I ring the planners and explain again that I only have till 20:00 as I have no 15s left (which they can see on screen) they say oh right and take the last collection off me and so after this it is back to base. Can they make me do a 15 by working me up knowingly over 13hrs?
Also I know this has been done to death before but if I put reduced rest in the search I’ll be hear till next year looking through them all.
Bking:
You say you are “new here” dont think you will get “old here”
You cant handle the job then bugger off and do what you did before.
You want to be a “truck driver” then do the job both rough and smooth and stop bloody whinging,or let some other bugger have a go who aint some 9 to 5 tart.
Once had to listen to some cretin bleat to a transport manager that he didnt get to see his little " precious" before he went to school in a morning because he had a late delivery.
FFs pass me the bloody sick bag.And the pillock didnt do tramp just nights.
Ever thought about a career as a counsellor,… or maybe the Samaritans, they are crying out for sensitive and empathic types like yourself.
The trouble with some drivers is they think that unless the work isn’t killing them or over 80 hours a week then will be seen as soft.
Rules and regulations are making most jobs easier and safer. But as I’ve said some drivers feel the need to be downtrodden.
Personally I like to be in my comfort zone, in an auto, easy work and well paid. Oh and not much more than 40 hours please but then again I’m a soft steering wheel attendant
Silver_Surfer:
Was speaking to a Stobbies lad the other day and if they’ve had their allowed brakes, they have to ring in to ask permission to stop for a ■■■■! Now I know Eddie is a good firm, the work & pay are passable but really.
Hmmm, I wonder what happens if one of them rings up wanting ‘permission’ ( ) to stop for a ■■■■ and the planner says no?
Last time I had to ask to go for a ■■■■ was when I was at school.
Depends where you are. In the truck park next to the offending Planner’s part of the staff car park is probably a good place to get caught short… All those 13 plate low profile wheels to choose from… You just need to know which set are the right ones.
If you’re on day rate, one could argue that means pulling your card and going home at 7pm - the time when it’s generally defined that “Night rate” starts from. This is especially effective when “we only pay minimum 5 hours” rather than the more usual 8 hours… Turn up at 2pm, they refuse to pay extra after 7pm, so you knock off at the 5 hour mark.
So… they move onto the next would-be “mug”, and guess what? He went bust after a few months, not realising that he was slipping further into debt, because of the endemic “wage leak”.
“Working across 10pm-2am” is probably the fairest definition of "night rate right through.
You don’t want to be doing 5pm-8am and have it called “day rate” that’s for sure. If someone wants to plan you for a 15 hour shift, then they can pay the appropriate rate for it.
That doesn’t stop some firms “trying it on” now and again though.
LASHHGV:
The trouble with some drivers is they think that unless the work isn’t killing them or over 80 hours a week then will be seen as soft.
Rules and regulations are making most jobs easier and safer. But as I’ve said some drivers feel the need to be downtrodden.
Personally I like to be in my comfort zone, in an auto, easy work and well paid. Oh and not much more than 40 hours please but then again I’m a soft steering wheel attendant
I must admit I’ve not heard that one before.
It’s so easy to get a DCPC myself costing £hundreds, it’s so easy to find myself a job paying £500pw for 36 hours, it’s so easy to keep all the efficiency bonuses, and it’s so easy to to not lose your job to someone who’ll do it for less, albeit smash up some kit (possible in plenty of jobs outside driving), and because the insurance fiddle covers it OK no questions asked.
“Max 48 hours allowed minimum wage £500pw” is what I would define as “the job getting easier” - nothing less.
Silver_Surfer:
Well, if it’s legal, they can ask you to do it, if it isn’t they can’t, simples.
If they regularly plan you & other drivers right to the wire, if something serious happens, i.e. a fatal accident the firm may be in the frame for corporate manslaughter & VOSA along with the HSE will be their new world of pain.
Many firms forget this but of course it’s funky dory till the [zb] hits the fan, then it’s pass the buck time.
It’s unfortunate that so many firms in haulage are so close to the profitability wire for this culture to be prevalent.
Someone on here once said you don’t want to work for a haulier who is hire & reward you want to be on for own account firms who manufacture their own stuff or distribute to their own stores as they aren’t under as much cost pressure & so less stress on the driver to produce £’s, true dat.
Was speaking to a Stobbies lad the other day and if they’ve had their allowed brakes, they have to ring in to ask permission to stop for a ■■■■! Now I know Eddie is a good firm, the work & pay are passable but really.
don’t believe everything your told ,love the way some of truck nest finest believe it ,please mr planner can I go for a pee ,please tell me s.s your on a wind up and you didn’t really believe what he told you ,this forum gets more blizzareby the day
) to stop for a ■■■■ and the planner says no?
