So! What do you do when the site you’re tipping at says you are not allowed to enter trailer at all on site, but your next collection needs a clean trailer? You can’t sweep out at collection point and it’s illegal to sweep on the road so what do you do.
I kicked up a real stink today when I swept at the place I tipped, I explained it was their stuff and I had steps etc to get inside. Was threatened with ban but explained etc and was told on this occasion I would get away with it (first time on site) it will happen again though - any legalities to throw at them?
Tell them that it is their product and they are obliged to take all of it, but that you can dispose of any part of it which they don’t want at a cost of £50. Then sweep it out onto the road.
You can sweep out in lay-bys, you just need to bag it up and take it with you.
Look in any layby near a quarry…you’ll find lots evidence of those who don’t bag it!
Alternatively if it’s dry, take your sheet off, either open the grain hatch or crack the tailgate…guaranteed within a few miles the vast majority of left overs will have disappeared!
I bet the local bird population are a bit obese after that lot! Personally I carry a bucket and pull up in a layby and sweep it into the bucket. There’s no need to be messy…
I always carry rubble sacks, most places I go have banned drivers from entering trailers despite all ours been fitted with ladders and props, if 3 points of contact can be maintained while climbing in an out then where’s the problem.
But as said I will find the nearest layby and bag it up. Even better if there are bins in the layby. One ball ache I have is the wheat mills that don’t allow you to open your tailgate once tipped, you can scrape it out all you want but the next time you open the back door the first thing to drop out is wheat you couldn’t get at, not a lot, granted, but still enough to cause you some grief if the customer at your next tip see’s it.
More bloody health and safety bollox, country’s disappearing up its own backside in debt and we can’t come up with more crap rules quickly enough to make it work even less even faster.
In my view sites that act this way are actually, unwittingly, taking on more potential responsibilty for injuries damages when they’re really intending to lessen it.
If you did have an accident on site, even in your own cab, I think you could potentially enjoy the same rights and expectations to, for example, training as a direct employee, for the entire period you are on site, as you are being controlled by the site in exactly the same manner.
This problem causes no end of greive for us bulk tipper who try to do the job right , the worst places are the very same who kick up a fuss about load contamination, we even had a customer who we delivered to ( soil) and we had to collect sand from them but there would be a small amount of debris (or a lot) so we were instructed to go out on to the public high way,loosen and sweep any debris to the rear off the trailer, drive back in their premises and tip off , I don’t know how they would of stood if any of us fell out on the highway but as far as they were concerned it no longer was their issue.but most places/ quarries will not let you enter your trailer to sweep out after delivering to their premises , yet when I started the rule was you clean out where you tip,its their material let them have it all,and your ready for the next load with out any complications, unfortunately some office Waller who wouldn’t know a tipper from a flat has heard that some bod has fell from a trailer and decided that they my be liable so that’s the end of that!
Bag it and bin it, you have to ask at each quarry if you can get in the back , each one has different set of rules. A few Tarmac, Breedon Cemex and AI will let you in if you use ladder / door prop.
Not letting you sweep out has nothing to do with H & S, or they would report you for sweeping out on the road, they are just scared you will sue them if you fall out of trailer in the quarry .
gickniff:
yet when I started the rule was you clean out where you tip,its their material let them have it all,and your ready for the next load with out any complications,
Agree wholeheartedly unfortunately H&S is the problem
Health & safety lot would of had a field day when I was a kid and my dad was an owner driver on the asphalt. Twelve years old soaking the body with a drop of red, hot footing across the top of a load of black top with the sheet in tow!, then jumping in to the seat and driving to the weighbridge, if it happened now the health & safety lot would string you up!
gickniff:
yet when I started the rule was you clean out where you tip,its their material let them have it all,and your ready for the next load with out any complications,
Agree wholeheartedly unfortunately H&S is the problem
but explained etc and was told on this occasion I would get away with it (first time on site) 
it will happen again though - any legalities to throw at them?
sometimes too much for a bucket and I’m definitely NOT going to carry bags! Will just continue arguing when things arise