British transport bosses jailed

Listening to the BBC yesterday I heard a news story about a father and son owners of a trucking company who had been jailed for manslaughter because they made one of their drivers work over his hours, he crashed and died, they were charged with causing his death.

This should be law here also :exclamation:

Would never happen over here Pat because one of the things I`ve learnt over here is that everything in the end comes down to the driver

taffytrucker:
Would never happen over here Pat because one of the things I`ve learnt over here is that everything in the end comes down to the driver

Very true Taffy … what a shame :frowning:

I remember doing a drop in Salt Lake City UT with a tridem trailer it wasnt until I had dropped they asked me if I had my permit for going into the state with a tridem trailer and doin a delivery!!!

There was nothing in our booklets that informed us about it and the couple of drivers I spoke to gave me a blank look and to top it off one of our more senior drivers had got a fine that morning for the very same thing as it was news to him, but stil was my fault for not getting a permit before heading off

This one

I wondered about this just the other day, Taffy. Our entire fleet is tandems so its not an issue but looking at my latest registration document I did notice for the first time that for every US state and Canadian province I’m only authorised to travel with 5 axles.

Until now I’d always “presumed” that you could carry on quite freely in to the US with a tridem if you wished, so long as you loaded less weight in it and stayed within the 80,000lbs.

One thing will be interesting though, our lot often run us bobtail to the Utility factories in south western Virginia to collect new trailers to bring back to the Maritimes, so far they’ve always been tandems that I’ve picked up but I’ve seen plenty of tridems in there and they’ll all be bound for Canada. Seems that we’re not even registered to pull them in Canada according to my registration, let alone any US state.

Pat Hasler:
Listening to the BBC yesterday I heard a news story about a father and son owners of a trucking company who had been jailed for manslaughter because they made one of their drivers work over his hours, he crashed and died, they were charged with causing his death.

This should be law here also :exclamation:

That law would need to be a law against stupidity then :open_mouth:

I’ve worked for all kinds of cowboys and crooks in my time and even the worst of them never ‘forced’ me to do anything I didn’t want to. Yes there may have been pressure to do a job or ■■■■ off, but there was always a choice to say yes or no, sometimes no would involve a lot of shouting and threats, but I could still say it :bulb:

At the end of the day, no matter how you look at it, the driver was at fault, he made the decision to drive over his hours, yes the bosses allowed it, but he could’ve said no, I doubt that his family was being held at gunpoint, forcing him to drive the lorry :open_mouth:

Bosses like that have no place in the industry, but they wouldn’t exist without stupid drivers who are prepared to run bent :bulb:

robinhood_1984:
I wondered about this just the other day, Taffy. Our entire fleet is tandems so its not an issue but looking at my latest registration document I did notice for the first time that for every US state and Canadian province I’m only authorised to travel with 5 axles.

Until now I’d always “presumed” that you could carry on quite freely in to the US with a tridem if you wished, so long as you loaded less weight in it and stayed within the 80,000lbs.

One thing will be interesting though, our lot often run us bobtail to the Utility factories in south western Virginia to collect new trailers to bring back to the Maritimes, so far they’ve always been tandems that I’ve picked up but I’ve seen plenty of tridems in there and they’ll all be bound for Canada. Seems that we’re not even registered to pull them in Canada according to my registration, let alone any US state.

TBH I’m not sure how it works. In my old place we ran both tridem and tandem didnt know about the permit for UT until I was at the place tipping and got a phone call asking if I got pulled at the Port of Entry in the I15 :unamused: :unamused:

In my new place we haul all sorts super B tridems 7+ axles I presume the office have sorted the details out but there again maybe not transformed completly to North American trucking :blush: :blush:

We run tridems from Alberta to South Carolina no problem, no extra permits or other BS. The only thing is in some states you can’t go over 80.000lb. Our trucks are registered for 97.000lb in the states that allow it maybe that makes the difference. For Utah I just have a blanket overweight permit when running a quad axle trailer down there (97.000lb) that’s all.

on the same sort o line …in Manitoba you need a permit for a tridrive rigid… a permit $100 for lift axles on a trailer,and over by Grunthal a permit from Hanover RM to use the gravel rds when loaded.and if you are caught with a ripped tarp on a gravel trailer …you can buy a permit (lasts 2wks) to allow you to keep working.
jimmy.

we cant have our lift axles down on the unit in ID puts us over weight for the state