British road Services

Fred Williams had a Seddon livestock lorry driven by a chap called Peter who could be recognised by his extremely bushy sideburns. He was a regular in both Hereford and Ross on Wye markets in the fifties & early sixties.

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Dave the Renegade:

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I can’t even remember where Hereford depot was! Give us a clue, Keith. (and don’t say, “Hereford”). :unamused:

HI ROF , well Hereford of coarse !! . Well it was off Edgar street ,past the football ground , and before the present island on the left hand side
What the street was named i do not know , but it crossed the railway which was a siding for Bulmers , and eventually came out by the cricket pitch by the former saunders Valve works .
The former site now is for twee housing . regards Keith

In past the Richmond Club,or the one below Keith. I do remember vaguely seeing the yard.
Cheers Dave.

Gotcha! Not far from Hereford Produce?
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Hi ROF and Dave ,
Yes the Richmond club rings a bell . But BRS took over that yard from a firm named Morgan and Friend, they ran some unusual Procters that were built by Prails of Hereford .
BRS did i think work for Bulmers , Painter Bros and british Canners ,and the likes of Entress and Joint Motorways would occasionally backload from Hereford .

Dave you may remember Fred Williams of Preston on Wye , he purchased several ex BRS motors from that depot regards Keith .

Yes I remember F J Williams, he had a varied fleet. Which some were still around until they sold a lot of them a few years back, that had been parked up.
Cheers Dave.

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Fred Williams had a Seddon livestock lorry driven by a chap called Peter who could be recognised by his extremely bushy sideburns. He was a regular in both Hereford and Ross on Wye markets in the fifties & early sixties.

ROF and Dave,
Peter i think was the son , they also had a Dodge and Albion 6 wheeler on stock work . That Seddon i seem to remember was one of the few vehicles they bought new . They had a nice AEC Mammoth Major 8 rigid , ex Jonah Jones from Ystradgynlais LEU 777 ,did potato work ,a reg i could not forget . regards Keith

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Fred Williams had a Seddon livestock lorry driven by a chap called Peter who could be recognised by his extremely bushy sideburns. He was a regular in both Hereford and Ross on Wye markets in the fifties & early sixties.

ROF and Dave,
Peter i think was the son , they also had a Dodge and Albion 6 wheeler on stock work . That Seddon i seem to remember was one of the few vehicles they bought new . They had a nice AEC Mammoth Major 8 rigid , ex Jonah Jones from Ystradgynlais LEU 777 ,did potato work ,a reg i could not forget . regards Keith

A driver I knew from Kington,Brian Barnett drove for F J Williams for a short while, before he went to Entress, last I heard he was on for Burgoynes. He would be retired now,s he’s a little bit older than me.
Cheers Dave.

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I can’t even remember where Hereford depot was! Give us a clue, Keith. (and don’t say, “Hereford”). :unamused:

38 Edgar Street, the manager in 1960 was H R Friend. Mainly trunk services to London and the N.W.

There ya go! How accurate can you get?!?! Thanks, Tidderson.

In the early 90s Hereford depot drivers in there 112 and 113 Scania were helping us on the Habitat contract for the Oxford depot, they were out all week but just on day runs , I reckon the Hereford depot must have run out of work and were scrapping the barrel to keep a float.

I must admit most of there wagons were spotless apart from one which was the pits , and the driver looked even worst . :laughing:

Just seen some postings on Tufnell Park Depot. I was there for about 6 weeks in 1958, the official address being Junction Road, N19. The depot code at the time was 1A, as far as I can remember, the vehicles were numbered in the 1A 1/2■■ series. The depot manager was a Mr Annison, who took exception to me claiming the bus fare every day every day from Southall, from where he said I should use my push bike, as I had done to Hayes depot, that being only about a mile and a half away ! There were 4 main traffic clerks, each having a desk under a sliding hatch, facing into the driver’s lobby. I worked for Bill Keithley (not sure of the spelling), who ran the night trunks to West Yorkshire, Leeds, Bingley etc. He knew all about bales of wool, ships wool and sale wool etc, and the drivers changed over with their Northern counterparts, in a lay-by at Woolfox, just north of Stamford. Cannot remember the other operators’ names, but next along the line was the Sheffield Trunk, who also changed over at Woolfox, then the North East Trunk, change over at Gonerby (must have been Tony’s Cafe), and finally the Scottish desk, where I think he mostly dealt with tramp vehicles from North of the Border. I do remember however, that some drivers drew subsistence money before leaving, but with the amount of work that they were prepared to cover in a shift then, it’s unlikely they would have made it half way, say Team Valley, but just cannot recall now. Many of the day shunt drivers had mates, can’t imagine why, nor can I relate much of the traffic handled. I know there was bagged cement, from both the Kent and Essex sides of the river, pig iron from Ford’s at Dagenham, which mostly went to Sheffield, and an odd consignment of wool, out of some wharf or other along Tooley Street. The vehicles operated from there have now completely gone from memory, except I recall a number of newish Leyland Beaver artics, used mainly to Sheffield, with sided trailers to facilitate the pig iron.

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Just seen some postings on Tufnell Park Depot. I was there for about 6 weeks in 1958, the official address being Junction Road, N19. The depot code at the time was 1A, as far as I can remember, the vehicles were numbered in the 1A 1/2■■ series. The depot manager was a Mr Annison, who took exception to me claiming the bus fare every day every day from Southall, from where he said I should use my push bike, as I had done to Hayes depot, that being only about a mile and a half away ! There were 4 main traffic clerks, each having a desk under a sliding hatch, facing into the driver’s lobby. I worked for Bill Keithley (not sure of the spelling), who ran the night trunks to West Yorkshire, Leeds, Bingley etc. He knew all about bales of wool, ships wool and sale wool etc, and the drivers changed over with their Northern counterparts, in a lay-by at Woolfox, just north of Stamford. Cannot remember the other operators’ names, but next along the line was the Sheffield Trunk, who also changed over at Woolfox, then the North East Trunk, change over at Gonerby (must have been Tony’s Cafe), and finally the Scottish desk, where I think he mostly dealt with tramp vehicles from North of the Border. I do remember however, that some drivers drew subsistence money before leaving, but with the amount of work that they were prepared to cover in a shift then, it’s unlikely they would have made it half way, say Team Valley, but just cannot recall now. Many of the day shunt drivers had mates, can’t imagine why, nor can I relate much of the traffic handled. I know there was bagged cement, from both the Kent and Essex sides of the river, pig iron from Ford’s at Dagenham, which mostly went to Sheffield, and an odd consignment of wool, out of some wharf or other along Tooley Street. The vehicles operated from there have now completely gone from memory, except I recall a number of newish Leyland Beaver artics, used mainly to Sheffield, with sided trailers to facilitate the pig iron.

A few from Tufnell Park about 1958 There were about 12 Beavers there with reg. no.s beginning with ULD, UUW, and UXP. Did all the drivers and lorries move to there when Hayes closed?

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I can’t even remember where Hereford depot was! Give us a clue, Keith. (and don’t say, “Hereford”). :unamused:

38 Edgar Street, the manager in 1960 was H R Friend. Mainly trunk services to London and the N.W.

Thanks for that Tidderson , i knew it was near priory street , and have since been told that Hereford had a separate parcels depot thanks Keith .

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Loaded & ready to roll, right now the important stuff, where we stopping for breakfast? :smiley:

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Hi adr,
Were these Hereford based ? regards Keith

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adr:
More memory joggers!

Hi adr,
Were these Hereford based ? regards Keith

Hi Keith, I wasn’t sure so looked in my abc/BRS book, as you can see according to that Hereford was 41G, these were 1G Newport wagons.
Regards Chris

Sorry, Hereford 42G :blush:

adr:
Sorry, Hereford 42G :blush:

Fascinating to see the numbers of vehicles shown in the coupe of pages of your abc/BRS book Chris. I remember BRS in Hereford,but didn’t realise they had as many vehicles based there as that.
Cheers Dave.

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Hi adr,
Were these Hereford based ? regards Keith

Hi Keith, I wasn’t sure so looked in my abc/BRS book, as you can see according to that Hereford was 41G, these were 1G Newport wagons.
Regards Chris

Thanks for that Chris , the confusing bit is that all the Hereford vehicles had Cardiff registrations . Very interesting info regards Keith

And the 8 wheeler Fodens are Manchester Reg,s, Great photos may I add, Regards Larry.

Dave the Renegade:

adr:
Sorry, Hereford 42G :blush:

Fascinating to see the numbers of vehicles shown in the coupe of pages of your abc/BRS book Chris. I remember BRS in Hereford,but didn’t realise they had as many vehicles based there as that.
Cheers Dave.

Hi Dave/Keith,
It’s a great little book, I can’t remember where/when I got it now cos I’ve had it years. This is the cover, you can see it’s a re-print but you might still be able to get it somewhere, local book shops or maybe Nynehead Books could trace it.
Regards Chris

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adr:

Dave the Renegade:

adr:
Sorry, Hereford 42G :blush:

Fascinating to see the numbers of vehicles shown in the coupe of pages of your abc/BRS book Chris. I remember BRS in Hereford,but didn’t realise they had as many vehicles based there as that.
Cheers Dave.

Hi Dave/Keith,
It’s a great little book, I can’t remember where/when I got it now cos I’ve had it years. This is the cover, you can see it’s a re-print but you might still be able to get it somewhere, local book shops or maybe Nynehead Books could trace it.
Regards Chris

Hang on to it Chris,there was one on ebay at £45.00. Well worth the money for the history and facts.
Cheers Dave.