British road Services

Just bringing the thread back to page 1. Happy New Year and thanks for all the pleasure I’ve had from the forum in 2012

A reminder of yesteryear .not many with cab heaters those days and probably with fuel filters removed as well !!

Another one or two.
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That makes me feel chilly, toshboy. Pass me another pair of thick socks!
And my dad’s Civil Defence overcoat to wrap around my legs.

Retired Old ■■■■:
That makes me feel chilly, toshboy. Pass me another pair of thick socks!
And my dad’s Civil Defence overcoat to wrap around my legs.

Hi Retired old ■■■■. my cold weather gear used to be an ex Army greatcoat which doubled as my motorcycle leathers ,and mandatory drivers boiler suit .the heater was the open dipstick flap ,and a cut potato to defrost the windscreen, and a gallon of paraffin chucked in the tank, the good old days some would say ! .

We knew no better, did we?
And then came the F88 :wink:

Just found these 2 colour slides in my Mothers collection! Pontypool 1963

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now thats a proper/real fleet of fine trucks . :smiley:

Albion Chieftain at the Malvern Rally today

Sorry but these are only photos of wagons, Not of Haulage Firms that made the British Road Haulage , Nationalisation In my opinion was a total waste of time Just as was the NCB, They had more office blody staff than they had workers producing firm results, Its little wonder in 1953 they threw the towel in & Let the proper people that new how to run it get on with it, Regards Larry.

Lawrence Dunbar:
Sorry but these are only photos of wagons, Not of Haulage Firms that made the British Road Haulage , Nationalisation In my opinion was a total waste of time Just as was the NCB, They had more office blody staff than they had workers producing firm results, Its little wonder in 1953 they threw the towel in & Let the proper people that new how to run it get on with it, Regards Larry.

Phew

Lawrence Dunbar:
Sorry but these are only photos of wagons, Not of Haulage Firms that made the British Road Haulage , Nationalisation In my opinion was a total waste of time Just as was the NCB, They had more office blody staff than they had workers producing firm results, Its little wonder in 1953 they threw the towel in & Let the proper people that new how to run it get on with it, Regards Larry.

WOW and so say all of us crowbar

I wish I hadn’t put the photos on now!!

I for one am glad you did mate. :wink:

I liked the one of the Mercury rigid.

3 more Mercury rigids. Photo by Michael Houle

Lawrence Dunbar:
Sorry but these are only photos of wagons, Not of Haulage Firms that made the British Road Haulage , Nationalisation In my opinion was a total waste of time Just as was the NCB, They had more office blody staff than they had workers producing firm results, Its little wonder in 1953 they threw the towel in & Let the proper people that new how to run it get on with it, Regards Larry.

Larry,my good mate, I endorse and fully agree with your sentiments regarding the “dead hand” of nationalisation particuarly that which created the monolithic BRS but I have to acknowledge that they had,and still have,many “diehard” supporters,some of whom populate these threads and hold dyametrically opposed views to you and I.However,it dosen’t matter how much you and I explain how haulage operated in the “real” world our opinions will never be accepted on this thread and I believe that Thee and me,while still browsing the BRS thread should just refrain from piling in and promoting the “free enterprise” methods of road haulage eh!,and maybe it may not force you to imbibe another another “large one” to calm yoursel down !! Just my thoughts which can be,quite rightly,ignored. :wink: Cheers Dennis.

Bewick:

Lawrence Dunbar:
Sorry but these are only photos of wagons, Not of Haulage Firms that made the British Road Haulage , Nationalisation In my opinion was a total waste of time Just as was the NCB, They had more office blody staff than they had workers producing firm results, Its little wonder in 1953 they threw the towel in & Let the proper people that new how to run it get on with it, Regards Larry.

Larry,my good mate, I endorse and fully agree with your sentiments regarding the “dead hand” of nationalisation particuarly that which created the monolithic BRS but I have to acknowledge that they had,and still have,many “diehard” supporters,some of whom populate these threads and hold dyametrically opposed views to you and I.However,it dosen’t matter how much you and I explain how haulage operated in the “real” world our opinions will never be accepted on this thread and I believe that Thee and me,while still browsing the BRS thread should just refrain from piling in and promoting the “free enterprise” methods of road haulage eh!,and maybe it may not force you to imbibe another another “large one” to calm yoursel down !! Just my thoughts which can be,quite rightly,ignored. :wink: Cheers Dennis.

Well put Dennis. Rememember the ‘supporters’ are mainly drivers like myself who joined BRS from ‘free enterprise’ in the early days .used to old clapped out crp lorries from pre war and wartime service which the the operators were only too glad to unload to BRS and got paid good money for --it done them a favour in my opinion.from a drivers point of view it was the best thing to happen -gone were the drivers frequent roadside repairs/changing wheels /finding return loads etc .help was available in almost every town by way of workshops ,fuel, return loads ,subs,digs, there was support all the way.As a tramper with plenty of work and overtime ,working almost every Sunday at D/t and decent lorries the drivers lot changed very much for the better,and more to the no point no chasing up by the gaffer or spotty ‘planners’ (what are they’) 20mph limits were scheduled at 16.5mph --11hrs ==180 miles daily- no sweat there,but hard work plenty of hand ball/roping and sheeting etc but on hourly pay so what.so it isnt a matter of politics -simply a better option for the driver which i understand would not go amiss today.

Got to agree with these last comments, maybe not a gaffers point of view, but a lot to be said for the ideal of a National road service. In practise though, probably to big a beast to control and putting ex gaffers in to manage it, while seeming the obvious choice, possibly not the smartest. Never the less, BRS was & is part of transport history, so, I think has a right to be discussed on here and for me, has always been a fascinating subject. Therefore I say keep on posting lads, for the joy of those that want it & also comments from those who are not so keen, as it’s all part of the merry-go-round. :wink: