Sick of seeing all the Eastern European hauliers clogging up services and lay-bys on a weekend and also the Major influx of little 3.5tonners with sleeper pods 
is brexit going to bring a return to the halcyon days of uk hauliers going across the water carrying British manafacturers goods?
You are right, they are everywhere, like a rat infestation and everyone is never far away from a rat .
On their weekly rest periods, they park with no toilet facilities and spend the weekend drinking , while bidding behind shut cab curtains .
An annoying rant about EE drivers, they don’t spend one penny in UK shops to keep our economy going, eating from their trailer kitchen at the side locker or set up a kitchen in the back of the trailer .
That’s the thing, I remember the days when all ports where full of British tilts and fridges all heading for far off destinations, guess the old romantic in me wants to see a return to those days
toby1234abc:
You are right, they are everywhere, like a rat infestation and everyone is never far away from a rat .
On their weekly rest periods, they park with no toilet facilities and spend the weekend drinking , while bidding behind shut cab curtains .
An annoying rant about EE drivers, they don’t spend one penny in UK shops to keep our economy going, eating from their trailer kitchen at the side locker or set up a kitchen in the back of the trailer .
But if you kick out EE drivers that British drivers will same parked at lay by in Francr,Italy or…About food-better eating self cooked food that from K…s or M…ds.As well better dring self maked tea instead high calloried coffee from services for 3quid.
JonB1973:
Sick of seeing all the Eastern European hauliers clogging up services and lay-bys on a weekend and also the Major influx of little 3.5tonners with sleeper pods
Simple Answer. No!
Long answer, The Conservative government supports multi-national corporations and financial institutions. They will be looking for the best deal for them, not for the UK haulage industry or probably the ordinary British people. 
I now work for one Uk int company.I realy not buy from services nothing,just some time bread.My trip 1-2 week.All food buy from Uk supermarket.At services one botlle of water sbout 1quid,at supermarket 2 quid for 12 bottle.Milk,meat product as well to expensive that in supermarket.Why need pay more for same produkt.Why need spend 10 quid per day for coffee if simply can use gas cooker,heat water at the morning and put in flasks.Coffee for all day for less 1 pound.Same situation about price for sweets,snack.May be services must make little bit price leveling?
The short answer is no.
The UK’s biggest export is services, not goods, so no need for lots of big trucks. The cars we do manufacture mostly go on specialist boats. If Brexit means exit from a Eu Free Trade Agreement then any duties etc would mean higher prices and less goods sold inro Eu and less trucks and vans.
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But surely once out of Eu we can make it a little bit harder for them to come into U.K. 
JonB1973:
But surely once out of Eu we can make it a little bit harder for them to come into U.K.
If they’re bringing in components for the automotive manufacturing industry or food for supermarkets, do you think our government is going to make it harder and risk upsetting the multi-national companies who have car plants in the UK or risk price rises in the shops adding to inflation because of extra costs of getting food here?
UK haulage is a very low priority for the UK government, it isn’t going to get any special favours.
muckles:
JonB1973:
But surely once out of Eu we can make it a little bit harder for them to come into U.K.If they’re bringing in components for the automotive manufacturing industry or food for supermarkets, do you think our government is going to make it harder and risk upsetting the multi-national companies who have car plants in the UK or risk price rises in the shops adding to inflation because of extra costs of getting food here?
UK haulage is a very low priority for the UK government, it isn’t going to get any special favours.
Of course they should be kept out or at least reduced so UK trucks do at least half the business but with no pressure from unions or the RHA I think Muckles has very accurately described the future above.
Taking a weekend 45 in the cab has to be tackled immediately though due to social nuisance and the lousy working conditions of these drivers both of which are strongly contrary to EU principles supposedly.
Hurryup&wait:
muckles:
JonB1973:
But surely once out of Eu we can make it a little bit harder for them to come into U.K.If they’re bringing in components for the automotive manufacturing industry or food for supermarkets, do you think our government is going to make it harder and risk upsetting the multi-national companies who have car plants in the UK or risk price rises in the shops adding to inflation because of extra costs of getting food here?
UK haulage is a very low priority for the UK government, it isn’t going to get any special favours.
Of course they should be kept out or at least reduced so UK trucks do at least half the business but with no pressure from unions or the RHA I think Muckles has very accurately described the future above.
Taking a weekend 45 in the cab has to be tackled immediately though due to social nuisance and the lousy working conditions of these drivers both of which are strongly contrary to EU principles supposedly.
With the UK talking about £300 fines for weekend in cab and France already imposing €,000s, where are the chancers gonna go?
If we keep foreign hauliers out through quotas or taxes what do you think Europe will do to our hauliers? There are two sides to every deal although many think we can dictate terms we can’t.
And as Muckles wad leading onto if haulage rates between Eu UK increase it’ll put prices up on ALL goods and components. So we as consumers pay more and our industry is less competitive.
Loose-Loose.
Franglais:
Hurryup&wait:
muckles:
JonB1973:
But surely once out of Eu we can make it a little bit harder for them to come into U.K.If they’re bringing in components for the automotive manufacturing industry or food for supermarkets, do you think our government is going to make it harder and risk upsetting the multi-national companies who have car plants in the UK or risk price rises in the shops adding to inflation because of extra costs of getting food here?
UK haulage is a very low priority for the UK government, it isn’t going to get any special favours.
Of course they should be kept out or at least reduced so UK trucks do at least half the business but with no pressure from unions or the RHA I think Muckles has very accurately described the future above.
Taking a weekend 45 in the cab has to be tackled immediately though due to social nuisance and the lousy working conditions of these drivers both of which are strongly contrary to EU principles supposedly.
With the UK talking about £300 fines for weekend in cab and France already imposing €,000s, where are the chancers gonna go?
If we keep foreign hauliers out through quotas or taxes what do you think Europe will do to our hauliers? There are two sides to every deal although many think we can dictate terms we can’t.
And as Muckles wad leading onto if haulage rates between Eu UK increase it’ll put prices up on ALL goods and components. So we as consumers pay more and our industry is less competitive.
Loose-Loose.
I hear you brother however for weekending in the cab the fines are very far and few between at the moment yet you can hardly stop to take a whizz in most countries now on a Sunday afternoon cos every place is maxed out with these guys.
I think it will really start kicking off bad as soon as everyone hits the road for their summer holidays and find out there is no room at the inn, any inn. Authorities may well clamp down hard and suddenly.
I certainly hope they do clamp down although if I don’t get loaded some Friday evening where will that leave me I don’t really know as I seldom see truck parking close to cheap hotels.
I would think a 50/50 split of the cross channel traffic was a reasonable entitlement in any negotiations. Rememder this was the way it was when we had permits or even green books. Pink books also prevented the current free for all.
However the reality I fear is as you guys have already said the government will sell the UK International haulage industry down the river for some minor gain elsewhere and perceived lower prices.
Strategically I wouldn’t consider that very clever of an island trading nation.
I do most of my driving now within France, and sometimes beyond in all directions, but I very rarely see British wagons over here now. When I do, I rarely see the drivers in the routiers, which is where I am always to be found at night. I have cooking facilities but I have never used them, except boiling a kettle for a wash.
So, isn’t that the same complaint that we all have about foreign drivers, not using the local economy?
I can’t see any advantage in Brexit for drivers. Brits are priced out of the market now, and they will be even more so then. The 45 law is obviously not enforced and neither are the laws which forbid drivers being paid home rates when spending most of their time abroad.
Until the EU enforces its own laws, things won’t change, whether UK is in or out of the Union.
From the experiences of my colleagues the French authorities are looking harder now at wages, contracts of employment, 45 breaks etc. Good thing too I say. Try to even up the playing field a little so legit companies trying to do the job right arent undercut by those not even trying to follow the rules. And I think youre right that Brexit will do no favours to anyone in the UK haulage game.
Franglais:
From the experiences of my colleagues the French authorities are looking harder now at wages, contracts of employment, 45 breaks etc. Good thing too I say. Try to even up the playing field a little so legit companies trying to do the job right arent undercut by those not even trying to follow the rules. And I think youre right that Brexit will do no favours to anyone in the UK haulage game.
It may have an indirect advantage to us over the hordes of 3rd-word invaders in and around Calais heading for Britain in that we would be able to deport them straight away without appeals ect , and be able to control who is entitled to benefits and housing ect unlike the free for all now ,with the open border approach