Mazzer2:
milodon:
Is there a queue because of an unusually high volume of cargo or rather because of customs?
On the other hand, how much have the prices risen for cargo bound for the UK compared to, say, last summer?
It’s due to the high volume of traffic came through last Wednesday and it was busy although not as busy as today, so far no extra checks at the port as long you have your customs forms and MRN number then you are still booking on as normal.
A lot of firms said before Christmas that they wouldn’t go to the UK anymore yet all the usual companies are here today, not sure if the rates have risen or not.
“So long as you have your customs forms and MRN number you’re booking on as normal”.
That sounds fine, no argument.
Those who are waiting hours for their MRN or other docs won’t be there. They will be waiting somewhere else.
So far this year I’ve had 4 or 5 straight through jobs. One job was a 5hr wait for an MRN. Another trailer I had was dropped after 16hrs awaiting clearance. That was eventually delivered 3 days later, that won’t do much for the supplier in the future.
I’ve heard of worse.
So long as there is extra paperwork required, there must be more scope for error. So long as there is more paperwork more people will be needed to administer it, and they all need paying. That isn’t teething troubles, that is an ongoing cost.
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P.S. I was at Coquelles last week, mid morning, straight through, 90 min from m-way to m-way.
Franglais:
“So long as you have your customs forms and MRN number you’re booking on as normal”.
That sounds fine, no argument.
Those who are waiting hours for their MRN or other docs won’t be there. They will be waiting somewhere else.
So far this year I’ve had 4 or 5 straight through jobs. One job was a 5hr wait for an MRN. Another trailer I had was dropped after 16hrs awaiting clearance. That was eventually delivered 3 days later, that won’t do much for the supplier in the future.
I’ve heard of worse.
So long as there is extra paperwork required, there must be more scope for error. So long as there is more paperwork more people will be needed to administer it, and they all need paying. That isn’t teething troubles, that is an ongoing cost.
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P.S. I was at Coquelles last week, mid morning, straight through, 90 min from m-way to m-way.
But according to those who opposed Brexit all this trade was supposed to cease, foreign lorries would no longer come to the UK on the two occasions when I’ve come through Calais since the 1st of January it looks no different, my first trip after the new year I used the tunnel and yes it was definitely quiet but not being a regular tunnel user I don’t know how quiet compared to the first week in January 2020.
On the paperwork front I’ve loaded back 3 times, the first time the paperwork was slow but as I was taking my break in their yard it didn’t matter, the second 30 minutes and yesterday no wait, perhaps the German’s just showing their efficiency 
Mazzer2:
Franglais:
“So long as you have your customs forms and MRN number you’re booking on as normal”.
That sounds fine, no argument.
Those who are waiting hours for their MRN or other docs won’t be there. They will be waiting somewhere else.
So far this year I’ve had 4 or 5 straight through jobs. One job was a 5hr wait for an MRN. Another trailer I had was dropped after 16hrs awaiting clearance. That was eventually delivered 3 days later, that won’t do much for the supplier in the future.
I’ve heard of worse.
So long as there is extra paperwork required, there must be more scope for error. So long as there is more paperwork more people will be needed to administer it, and they all need paying. That isn’t teething troubles, that is an ongoing cost.
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P.S. I was at Coquelles last week, mid morning, straight through, 90 min from m-way to m-way.
But according to those who opposed Brexit all this trade was supposed to cease, foreign lorries would no longer come to the UK on the two occasions when I’ve come through Calais since the 1st of January it looks no different, my first trip after the new year I used the tunnel and yes it was definitely quiet but not being a regular tunnel user I don’t know how quiet compared to the first week in January 2020.
On the paperwork front I’ve loaded back 3 times, the first time the paperwork was slow but as I was taking my break in their yard it didn’t matter, the second 30 minutes and yesterday no wait, perhaps the German’s just showing their efficiency
The coming in with goods is not where the problem is, its the rentry to the EU with goods that you will find a whole new restrictive mountain of custom rules.
We are now classed as a third country who can no longer be trusted to abide by the rules.
jamdoms:
Mazzer2:
Franglais:
“So long as you have your customs forms and MRN number you’re booking on as normal”.
That sounds fine, no argument.
Those who are waiting hours for their MRN or other docs won’t be there. They will be waiting somewhere else.
So far this year I’ve had 4 or 5 straight through jobs. One job was a 5hr wait for an MRN. Another trailer I had was dropped after 16hrs awaiting clearance. That was eventually delivered 3 days later, that won’t do much for the supplier in the future.
I’ve heard of worse.
So long as there is extra paperwork required, there must be more scope for error. So long as there is more paperwork more people will be needed to administer it, and they all need paying. That isn’t teething troubles, that is an ongoing cost.
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P.S. I was at Coquelles last week, mid morning, straight through, 90 min from m-way to m-way.
But according to those who opposed Brexit all this trade was supposed to cease, foreign lorries would no longer come to the UK on the two occasions when I’ve come through Calais since the 1st of January it looks no different, my first trip after the new year I used the tunnel and yes it was definitely quiet but not being a regular tunnel user I don’t know how quiet compared to the first week in January 2020.
On the paperwork front I’ve loaded back 3 times, the first time the paperwork was slow but as I was taking my break in their yard it didn’t matter, the second 30 minutes and yesterday no wait, perhaps the German’s just showing their efficiency
The coming in with goods is not where the problem is, its the rentry to the EU with goods that you will find a whole new restrictive mountain of custom rules.
We are now classed as a third country who can no longer be trusted to abide by the rules.
Not disputing that but my point was that we were told no one would want to trade with us but that obviously is not the case, loading in Ireland we are not affected by entry into the EU.
Remainers told a lot of things that didn’t come true in order to scare people, they’re not at all happy that brexit has thrown a spanner into the globalist machinery. As mentioned earlier, there will be bumps in the road but things will smooth out over time, businesses are very clever when it comes to preserving their profits, you’ve only got to look at their complex tax affairs, so they’ll find a way to carry on importing/ exporting over the coming months.
Franglais:
GORDON 50:
jamdoms:
“Scottish fisherman interviewed on TV tonight asked if he voted for exit. Yes, he said but not this disaster, 80% of business lost, pages of forms for just one box of fish which no one in government can explain how to fill in.
Would he vote to leave now, no answer but he says it’s for the best in the long term. There you have it he is about to go from fisherman to unemployed man and the sunlight uplands are still believed.
Not so much a political statement as a religious belief”
You’ve got to address the long term though and look at where the EU wants to be in 10-20 years time, more integrated and more countries. Yes, this guy is taking a hit now but he’ll find something to bring the pennys in, but he understands that it’s probably better to leave now with a few bumps in the road than to try and leave in 10 years time, imagine how much harder it will be then once we’re even more entangled. And anyone who thinks the EU has no plans for more enlargement and integration is living in some sort of parallel universe.
If the EU would have stayed as it was, and do what it was set up to do without trying to be the United States of Europe then there wouldn’t have been a Brexit vote in the first place.
Nothing stays as it was…
The British Empire is no more.
Neither is (as an economic force) the Commonwealth.
The world is bigger than a village, and bigger than an individual country.
No country is truly independent, especially one that doesn’t even grow enough food food for it’s own population.
We can accept that and join in with a group large enough to set some of the rules, and we can influence those rules, or sit outside and take any rules they make.
Everyone agrees that nothing stays the same, it’s just the speed of that change has got out of control. Change has to happen, but over time.
No one is actually saying the British empire should make a comeback, and we all agree the commonwealth is not a major economic force.
The world is even bigger than the EU believe it or not.
We all agree that no country is totally independent when it comes to trade but lets keep it at that…trade, why try to integrate loads of countries of different cultures and languages into one big state?
switchlogic:
GORDON 50:
why try to integrate loads of countries of different cultures and languages into one big state?
Yup, why not?
Wot?
Give people the right to travel freely?
Let them talk whatever language they want?
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I’ll bet self proclaimed “libertarian*s” won’t like that!
Libertarianism: my freedom to do as I want, and your freedom to do as I want.
switchlogic:
GORDON 50:
why try to integrate loads of countries of different cultures and languages into one big state?
Yup, why not?
Yeah that worked well with Yugoslavia.
msgyorkie:
switchlogic:
GORDON 50:
why try to integrate loads of countries of different cultures and languages into one big state?
Yup, why not?
Yeah that worked well with Yugoslavia.
That’s one example.
Other examples are the various smaller states that United to form Italy. Or Germany, Spain or France. Or England. Or the UK.
We are all different with different values making all countries and people the same doesn’t work. Imagine if a 40 year old teacher was interested in a 15 year old pupil and went on to become very interested in them. We would in the Uk see that as possible grooming, where other countries do not. It’s because we are all different and should remain that way.
Odd days:
We are all different with different values making all countries and people the same doesn’t work. Imagine if a 40 year old teacher was interested in a 15 year old pupil and went on to become very interested in them. We would in the Uk see that as possible grooming, where other countries do not. It’s because we are all different and should remain that way.
So, if someone thinks it’s OK for adults to groom kids, we should ignore it, if they are from a different country?
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We wouldn’t accept that if a foreigner was here, would we?
So why is it acceptable if it happens some distance away?
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Who are we to tell another country how they behave or what they do.
I mean I wonder how president macron met his wife ?
> Odd days:
> We are all different with different values making all countries and people the same doesn’t work. Imagine if a 40 year old teacher was interested in a 15 year old pupil and went on to become very interested in them. We would in the Uk see that as possible grooming, where other countries do not. It’s because we are all different and should remain that way.
Out of interest Odd, what other European countries don’t see that as possible grooming??
I believe that most of the Christian Churches/denominations in the UK and across Europe & Sth America are trying to stamp it out amongst their more senior members, without actually exposing them to the authorities so that they get caught, imprisoned & stopped.
Makes sense to me to have a Europe Wide effort to stamp it out with shared resources & data - pity the UK has pulled out of that, so since Jan1st info on groomers from outside the UK is no longer available to our HM Polis
I am not talking about other countries, just pointing out that one country can have different values, views, and ways of doing things. Is it right that one country should force its views and laws etc on another. We are all different and if people accept that we would all get along a lot better rather than the biggest bully making everyone do it how they say. It will only end in tears forcing people to change to suit another’s needs.
Franglais:
msgyorkie:
switchlogic:
GORDON 50:
why try to integrate loads of countries of different cultures and languages into one big state?
Yup, why not?
Yeah that worked well with Yugoslavia.
That’s one example.
Other examples are the various smaller states that United to form Italy. Or Germany, Spain or France. Or England. Or the UK.
Or indeed on a big scale the USA ultimately
Odd days:
We are all different with different values making all countries and people the same doesn’t work.
Just as well that’s not what the EU aims to do then isn’t it?
Odd days:
Is it right that one country should force its views and laws etc on another.
No, and not what the EU does. Not a single EU countries National identity has been lessened from being an EU member. In fact they even have many laws to protect particular aspects of national identity and provide a much louder voice to many smaller nations
Odd days:
We are all different with different values making all countries and people the same doesn’t work. Imagine if a 40 year old teacher was interested in a 15 year old pupil and went on to become very interested in them. We would in the Uk see that as possible grooming, where other countries do not. It’s because we are all different and should remain that way.
I’m pretty sure stealing, ■■■■ and arson are only looked down upon in the UK as well.
Your post does speak volumes about how informed brexiteers are about the world 
milodon:
Odd days:
We are all different with different values making all countries and people the same doesn’t work. Imagine if a 40 year old teacher was interested in a 15 year old pupil and went on to become very interested in them. We would in the Uk see that as possible grooming, where other countries do not. It’s because we are all different and should remain that way.
I’m pretty sure stealing, ■■■■ and arson are only looked down upon in the UK as well.
Your post does speak volumes about how informed brexiteers are about the world
You bloody foreigns are lawless perverts. I’ll have you know this country invented the very concept of law and justice. The other side of that 30 mile English Channel it’s a truly lawless hellhole where teachers groom children with impunity.