Without wishing to appear pedantic (I wouldn’t want to step on your toes 
) the Zloty is the principle currency of a country still firmly within the Eurozone # so your “joke” suggests that the zloty is worthless against the pound. Hmmm
the maoster:
Without wishing to appear pedantic (I wouldn’t want to step on your toesinteresting how Poland refused to join the one currency sham isn’t it?
Yep, I missed a trick there
Should have used the Japanese Yen maybe?
5.2 zloty to the £ and 175 yen to the £. So, Japan must be a basket case? Worse than Poland??
Finally! The penny/cent has dropped! The whole world is a financial disaster zone and only our currency is worth anything.
Welcome.
the maoster:
Finally! The penny/cent has dropped! The whole world is a financial disaster zone and only our currency is worth anything.Welcome.
Of course! The logic is inescapable.
youtube.com/watch?v=rf71YotfykQ
UK has lowest exports in the G7 - pretty much all down to Brexit. Other european countries are leaving us for dead. What a disaster brexit was. Didn’t even bring down migration!
JeffA:
UK has lowest exports in the G7 - pretty much all down to Brexit. Other european countries are leaving us for dead. What a disaster brexit was. Didn’t even bring down migration!
At least we missed out on those fifteen million Turkish immigrants arriving here, didnt we? When Turkey joined the EU in 2020, they all wanted to come over here, didnt they?
Isn`t that what St Nigel was saying?
youtube.com/watch?v=kWKh0hgH3YQ
youtube.com/watch?v=nnrFddSJWsk
Franglais:
robroy:
My political allegiances are pure mercenary,.I’m a political ■■■■■, I’ll go with anybody if I think they may do me or mine any good.So far, Brexit has devalued the pound, made imports more expensive. made queues for UK passport holders longer, made it more difficult for us to work in the EU, and has made UK exports to the EU less competitive.
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Did you hear this one?
A lady walked into a bureau de change, and got her ■■■■■ out. With a big smile on her face she pushed across a bundle of zloty notes.
The cashier hands her a crisp fiver and a few coins.
“Call the police!” she screams “I`ve been raped!”
Did you here this one?
A UK tourist on a “Staycation” drives into a Motorway Service area, and picks up one of their meal deals, and a mars bar - and profers their money at the counter:
“I’m sorry - I’ve only got a £50 note.”
“That’s OK” says the Cashier: “You can put the Mars Bar back!”
JeffA:
UK has lowest exports in the G7 - pretty much all down to Brexit. Other european countries are leaving us for dead. What a disaster brexit was. Didn’t even bring down migration!
I’m sick to death from hearing that Brexit was “all about Immigration, ONLY about Immigration” which, as you say “nowt was done about” anyways.
Pity about all the other major issues beyond “Immigration”:
(1) Not being roped into foreign wars, and pressured to join “Euro-American Coaltions” like Blair had us do in Iraq for the REPUBLIAN incumbent of the day, don’t forget…
(2) Leaving the ECHR would enable us to jail major criminals, keep them in jail, and once in jail - “don’t release them” until substantial new evidence is found in the convicted’s favour, rather than prove some witness lied years ago, and the entire “conviction is unsafe” as a result.
(2b) Leaving the ECHR would also disallow unfounded accusations at anyone based on “hearsay evidence alone”. that would have stopped Deep State Civil Servants from alleging pretty much anything they like against actual elected holders of the highest offices in the land - and have them seriously investigated on no evidence whatsoever.
(3) Any Lawyer serving Foreign causes before our own in the UK - gets disbarred from practicing Law in the UK ever again. (Put’s paid to the endless “legal challenges” over Brexit that way
“You cannot serve two masters…”
(4) UK laws get rolled out equally to all foreign persons in the UK. This means that the “Concealed Carry” warrant used by US agents to pack firearms and walk around among the UK public with more rights to kill people than our own police - get discarded for something better, that registers all UK “packing” persons on a national database. It remains illegal to “Brandish a firearm in Public” - but when was the last time you saw a US citizen busted for that anyways?
(5) No representation without taxation:
You have your right to a single (discardable by government) vote replaced by a “college vote” where you get 1 vote for each 1% of your income you pay the UK exchequer in taxes. Thus, us normal plebs paying 20% - get 20 votes, but Cameron only paying 12% gets 12 votes, whilst people on benefits, non-doms, and black market participants who avoid paying any taxes at all - end up with NO votes.
(6) The EU were quick enough to disband our MEPs (because Farage’s lot had the majority!) but were slow to stop our payments into their system to PAY for those MEPs presence at the Europarliament. Now it’s time for that boot - to be on the other foot, I reckon! Stop paying in to the EU, which we still do 7 years after we voted to leave the EU entirely!
(7) Shortage of Labour (now very present indeed in the UK economy) - leave Market Forces to find a new balance: in the Transport industry thus far, we HAVE seen the “shortage of drivers” push up rates - BUT only for the “Just in time” model, I.e. Agency Driving still commands the best rates of all.
If you are against Zero Hours Contracts, then it makes perfect sense to choose to work full time for less money, of course. Firms still dislike “Agency” people from working full time hours entirely - just for the extra money invoved. I thought Unions were on top of that, but we always got told that Unions were among the Remainer campers?
(8) Tourism: Every pound spent overseas - is a pound less spent in the UK economy. A lousy sterling exchange rate, could and should have crushed demand for “Foreign Holidays” due to the weaker pound, but waddya know - people STILL prefer to go to places which are ever-more expensive, and choose to sit in the air transport processing system, almost as if it has now acquired “Waiting Times” measurable in NHS terms as a consequence of Brexit or not…
(9) House Unaffordability: The correct way to deal with this - was to increase people’s wages so they can actually afford rising house prices.
The way Sunak seems to be going, is to deliberately crash the market, at which point mortgage payers WON’T be selling their houses for 5-figure sums - because they cannot afford and won’t be allowed to walk away from that kind of debt by the mortgage lenders!
Subsequently, “New, First-time buyers” won’t be able to get a mortgage for a £50,000 house - unless they put down a 50%+ deposit…
“No one was saved”.
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(10) lowering immigration (a low priority of Brexit as a whole) would have reduced demand on RENTED accommodation, which in turn - would push the Buy to Let crowd OUT of the market, permitting SMALLER drops in prices, and a “buying opportunity” for those who no longer see constantly raising interest rates as the bar to jump when applying for a mortgage.
Hang on a minute Winseer - leaving the EU would mean we got rid of all those laws? So why are we still doing drivers CPC? That was the one thing I was looking forward to after we left the EU!
Migration was the kicker - nobody was bothered about rewriting EU law - good thing too cos the tories are still doing their best to demolish EU workers rights that we enjoy.
To be honest - if it had ended up decreasing migration I might have supported Brexit - but now we’re in the worst of all possible worlds - migration massively worse than it was before Brexit and losing 100 billion a year.
Did you see Trump backslide on that big UK-USA trade deal that he promised he would sign straightaway? Never happened. Never gonna happen.
Court of Justice confirms loss of EU citizenship for British nationa
The Court of Justice of the European Union on Thursday delivered the final word on the question of EU citizenship for British nationals post-Brexit.
In pronouncing the “definitive dismissal” of the three remaining legal cases, the Court of Justice confirmed previous rulings that Britons lost their rights as EU citizens when the country left the bloc.
The legal cases had been brought by UK nationals challenging the loss of EU citizenship rights as a result of Brexit.
The loss of status as EU citizens and all related rights, including free movement and electoral rights in EU member states, is “an automatic consequence of the sole sovereign decision taken by the United Kingdom to withdraw from the European Union, and not of the withdrawal agreement or the Council’s decision approving that agreement,” EU judges said.
The Court had previously ruled on the matter and the claimants had appealed the decisions.
One of the cases concerned a British woman who had lost her electoral rights in France, her country of residence. She argued this was disproportionate and contrary to the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights.
Another questioned the link between citizenship of an EU member state and EU citizenship, arguing the latter is a fundamental status that, once acquired, cannot be removed from the individual.
The third challenge was brought by the late British veteran Harry Shindler, who was living in Italy, against the EU-UK withdrawal agreement. The argument was that the deal automatically removed EU citizenship rights from British nationals without “test of proportionality”.
The Court of Justice rejected all the appeals saying that the British nationals cannot retain EU citizenship because of the UK decision to leave the bloc.
Introduced in 1992, EU citizenship is a unique transnational citizenship that grants rights across borders.
The withdrawal agreement signed when the UK left the European Union, in 2020, protects the residence and social security rights of British nationals who were living in the EU before Brexit. Free movement and electoral rights were excluded, as these are associated with EU citizenship.
The Court decision comes after years of legal battles and represents the final ruling on the matter
Iceland (the frozen foods store) has been exporting goods into its associated company in the EU. But, it seems that the documents arent correct, so all animal derived products, (meat, fish, eggs, dairy) of UK origin, imported since March 3rd, are being recalled from stores and customers are advised to take them back to stores. Some goods seized at quayside are being destroyed or sent back to the UK.
No examples that the food is actually hazardous that I can see, but there are issues over traceability and paperwork.
On several news sites, or here on Beeb
bbc.com/news/articles/cp69z614ngyo
JeffA:
Hang on a minute Winseer - leaving the EU would mean we got rid of all those laws? So why are we still doing drivers CPC? That was the one thing I was looking forward to after we left the EU!Migration was the kicker - nobody was bothered about rewriting EU law - good thing too cos the tories are still doing their best to demolish EU workers rights that we enjoy.
To be honest - if it had ended up decreasing migration I might have supported Brexit - but now we’re in the worst of all possible worlds - migration massively worse than it was before Brexit and losing 100 billion a year.
Did you see Trump backslide on that big UK-USA trade deal that he promised he would sign straightaway? Never happened. Never gonna happen.
Britain - didn’t submit a trade deal to Trump whilst he was President TO sign… “Negotations were still just getting started” by the time Trump was overthrown, alas
I didn’t list the CPC argument above. 101 reasons to vote Brexit, 101 different opinions as to why it seems…
“Migration” as I’ve already stated, has been bigged-up by the liberal media as to being the MAIN reason for voting Leave…
FFS wot a smokescreen THAT was!
I reckon the idea was to make would-be Leave voters ahead of the referendum feel “Guilty” about their “unabashed Nazism” (plus other issues)
To the Liberal “Nazism” is what they call conservative nationalist, but apparently “Azovs of Ukraine” are gentle life-loving heroes for standing upto Putin’s Russia, presumably by murdering Ethinic Russians leaving in Eastern Ukraine, which intensified leading upto the invasion last year…
To the Liberal:
“Bigot” is what a “conservative Hetrosexual” is called,
…“Swivel-Eyed Loon” is what an observant conservative is called, that questions the narrative based on what they see before their very eyes
…“Legal Migrant”-■■■-“Migrant” is what used to be known as an “Illegal Immigrant” - which isn’t so much about the “immigrant” bit, but the fact they’ve successfully de-criminalized actual criminals by sleight-of-hand in the process…
Leaving the EU - didn’t make any difference to THAT, since we’re still not prepared to arrest skippers of small boats ferrying these people across the English Channel, despite having got across most of the EU to get that far… Meanwhile, Truckers face 2500 fines per person, and you don’t hear what happens to them after dozens of them pour out of the back of their truck at places like Clackett Lane services…
The correct response would surely be to BUST the skippers of vessels for people traffiking - or is that only do-able to "friends of Geoffrey “Lord Lucan II” Epstein…?
“Women and Children” - are the exception, not the norm of course on these boats as well:
Even the mainstream media has trouble showing video footage that show anything other than a boat load of Fit, young, NON-EU MALES not a wife or girlfriend (let alone Daughters and kids with a single digit age) in sight…
(They don’t mind pinching the birds of Blighty, of course, but you rarely see an Britain-born White guy - arm-in-arm with a Non-White foreign woman of child-bearing age now, - do you?)
Notice how they big-up the news stories of “immigrants drowning in transit” rather than pull up the drawbridge outright, (Drawbridge Up=no one can get in through illegal methods anymore, not ever) Anyone “Captured” trying to cross the channel - can either be taken back to French shores, which 99%+ of them have embarked from anyways, OR impound them until someone comes to claim them. IF that person “coming to claim them” is a lefty lawyer - then fine them the standard £2500 per person - and scrape some kind of salvage out of what is an expensive exercise regardless of how we police our borders.
You don’t “ask” permission to ship people off to places like Rwanda either. You’re supposed to be the bloody government - YOU arrange the transport, YOU lock up those trying to obscruct UK justice, YOU enforce the fines upon such “sabateurs” in the same way the DWP can now help themselves to your money straight out of your wages for what previously would be “written off, unsecured debts”…
It seems we have a great system in this country for upsetting, impoverishing, and depriving UK-born Taxpayers - but everyone else?
Hey - Come on in! We’ve got nothing more of our own for you to steal, 'cos we’re all gonna be broke by 2030 anyways!
When you point stuff out like I have described above, then suddenly legal, working Eastern Europeans are put in the same camp as Illegal, Non-EU criminal immigrants… They the Media did that - not we “bigoted, Swivel-eyed loon Brits”…!!
What are they trying to avoid here, other than “Telling the Truth”■■
It is about time that taxpaying EE legal migrants - started to object to the overheads THEY now have to pay - to fund this ongoings hitshow which our governments on BOTH sides of the house - appear to support all the way… What’s Keir Starmer doing to do about it?
Nothing. We are expected to replace Sunak with Starmer - only for the current “plan” to be continued, and no effort made whatsoever to end the “Tory Austerity” which may well be the lie that gets Labour elected at the next election…
At present, illegals - tend to vote Labour as well.
How about a campaign for those many many male AND female LEGAL, WORKING, TAXPAYING ,INTEGRATING Eastern Europeans to vote for a party that is NOT “Labour” Hmm?
Can anyone on here tell me they don’t have at least one mate, one family member - who’s already dating or hitched to one of the many lovely EE ladies out there? Who speaks for them? Get them to vote for an Anti-Establishment party, and join our politics proper!
I dunno Winseer - I read the news probably more than most other folk and the only reason I ever registered for Brexit was migration. The rest were just old tory grandees saying “get rid of workers rights so we can have 10 year olds up chimneys again” - that was never gonna be a big votewinner was it? That’s why they stuck to migration - oh and that it would mean 350 million a week for the NHS - whoever came up with that should be publicly executed.
Many UK businesses which import food products from the European Union will have to pay a special “Brexit tax” that will further drive up prices, particularly in smaller shops such as delicatessens, under proposals set out by the government last week.
The planned charge of £43 per consignment, outlined in a consultation document issued by the Department for Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra), was described on Saturday by a leading industry figure as “the sting in the tail of a post-Brexit food inspection regime” that was already fuelling inflation.
Oh well - we will all be bankrupt but never mind - at least we socked it to the remoaners!!!
JeffA:
Many UK businesses which import food products from the European Union will have to pay a special “Brexit tax” that will further drive up prices, particularly in smaller shops such as delicatessens, under proposals set out by the government last week.
The planned charge of £43 per consignment, outlined in a consultation document issued by the Department for Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra), was described on Saturday by a leading industry figure as “the sting in the tail of a post-Brexit food inspection regime” that was already fuelling inflation.Oh well - we will all be bankrupt but never mind - at least we socked it to the remoaners!!!
£43 per consignment is easy for a large firm, disaster for a small firm.
Unless our current Village Grocery shops - start selling local produce first and foremost - they are going to be going bust in short order. People will just jump in their 4x4s and go to the nearest out-of-town superstore for their overpriced stuff, because they can afford to shop there.
If people stop buying stuff in supermarkets - the prices WILL drop. I’ve noticed a lot more “Organic” stuff in the “Reduced” aisles of late, for example… People had enough of ramped-up prices perhaps?
I’m frankly amazed so far that the huge hike in interest rates these past 2 years - has yet to noticeably slow down the economy, so people are selling their 4x4s, “not going out” as much, “cancelling their foreign holidays” a lot more, and even “putting in more overtime”… although, I could argue that Cars leading down the road from your place of work, would seem to imply that there’s a whole lot more people doing docket these days than before…
Don’t often enter the fray in this debate, but as it’s topical with Prizoghen’s recent antics, I reckon one of Putin’s few successes was Brexit. Whether the evidence will be released before the Tories are kicked out is doubtful, but Hey Ho.
It has taken a long time for the deep state crooks to convince the public that "Brexit can be overturned now - we’ve turned enough people back against it.
There won’t be any second referendum, as these crooks won’t ever leave this “chance” to a free, and democratic vote - ever again (nor any western election now, neither…)
Perhaps it is time to now do-away with the system that hasn’t served humanity as a whole - since the time the first “meddled lot” got chucked into whatever sortition device was to hand at the time.
2020 saw the first election being rigged in real-time as it were, and I would imagine that now such a system has been successfully rolled out, that it will remain in place, like my posts - as long as the internet lasts.
To retaliate against the deepstate then, ultimately there’s going to be no internet, and likely no electricity neither.
something has to wipe the multiple backed-up servers of all their data… The Internet has reached the point where it may well become the first conscious entity, rather than any intended “AI Robot” device.
“Once it’s out there - it’s out there forever”.
“Wealth in Obscurity” is the new panacea for a happy life.
There’s just not enough of these people to effect change though. They know what will happen to them if they do try, after all.
Perhaps if there was no such thing as a “Professional Political Class” - that is, no one gets paid to hold an elected office - we might attract some real generous people to the top, rather than let evil people that only seek power for power’s sake, hold it instead.
JeffA:
I dunno Winseer - I read the news probably more than most other folk and the only reason I ever registered for Brexit was migration. The rest were just old tory grandees saying “get rid of workers rights so we can have 10 year olds up chimneys again” - that was never gonna be a big votewinner was it? That’s why they stuck to migration - oh and that it would mean 350 million a week for the NHS - whoever came up with that should be publicly executed.
Nhs has had way more than 350 million since brexit that’s for sure
I voted remain but the only thing that’s changed since brexit for me is substantial pay rises , which is what most working class blokes are interested in , so brexit is a thumbs up from me , I’d vote leave next time , but as winseer said we will never get a vote on it again
Boris gone , now shutting dow n. Farages bank account , he’s on about may have to emigrate as doesn’t think he’ll get another bank account ,