So what your saying is i cant take a break whilst unloading? Im sure this cant be right as my boss told me to do, why would he lie?
Saaamon:
So what your saying is i cant take a break whilst unloading? Im sure this cant be right as my boss told me to do, why would he lie?
Bosses often lie to get what they want when it suits them - I thought everyone knew that …
kr79:
The Sarge:
kr79:
If you are in a bay or waiting somewhere but not doing anything work related break.
Strapping load doing curtains etc is work.
However real world Friday afternoon thoughts of getting home or down the pub etc I’m sure most of us would nick a breAk while doing this.D’ya think?? Not that I ever would, otherwise I’d have RossvStobart breathing down my neck
Real world yes trucknet world noting would surprise me. The way some of them carry on I think they would book a night out if they got to max driving hours outside the gate of the yard.
Not far off, night lad on Wed night / Thu morning, passed him about 200yrds from the depot when going to work in the car, thought he’d stopped for breakfast because there’s a butty van there, but no, I had to walk round and bring truck back because he was out of hours 
robinhood_1984:
Its no wonder that British workers lose out to foreign compitition in the employment market. This sort of work shy jobsworth attitude is becoming endemic in British haulage and one of the reasons we as a nationality can’t compete against anybody else who just shows up on our doorstep with a bit of willing. By the time the British driver has stopped gabbering on about his DCPC, his smartly polished boots, his excellent understanding of the WTD and tachograph hours and how the before mentioned knowledge means that he most certainly can not do the job he’s just been asked to do and how society as a whole should bow down to his undeniable professional capabilities as a steering wheel attendant and how he should be on a wage on par with a doctor or airline pilot due to his honoury degree in using EU dictat to avoid ‘real work sitations’ and his government quango issued NVQ in Transportation and Logistics claptrap that enables him to manouver his blue chip company fleet spec MAN 63 miles up the M1 from depot to depot with a cucumber shaped dose of self importance rammed up his jacksy that he waggles at others for having the audacity to do something as henious as drive for 4:31 or walk across a yard without a high vis…I’ve lost my train of thought now but you get the idea, those people and there are plenty of them are nothing more than parasites or cockroaches in my opinion and it is inevitable, sad as it is to admit so, that British firms lose out to foreign competition or that British firms are forced to employ foreigners as that is the only way the job will get done most of the time as the risk of a British driver going on a mini-strike and forming a one man picket by the yard gate is too great when he’s asked to do a night out or pick up a tilt from the dock and open the sides up to tip it. A very sad state of affairs but it is what it is. Am I the only one who thinks this way!!!Great Britain? I should think not…
This is exactly,RobinHood, why so many on trucknet think they have to be so ■■■■ in applying the rules.
This culture will spread if it’s not stopped.
Listen to RobinHood people…
has anyone actually have vosa appear when they filling diesel closing doors etc etc and tacho on break or is that a myth that they just appear 
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Wagsie100:
It really is simplesYour on a day rate and job and knock = Breaks at delivery points
Your on hourly pay and the quicker you go the more they give you or day rate but not job and knock = Breaks at services , laybys with greasy joes and and anywhere really thats earning you more wedge or doing less work
best thing said 
nedflanders:
has anyone actually have vosa appear when they filling diesel closing doors etc etc and tacho on break or is that a myth that they just appear
I don’t know about that but they have waited for trucks to leave self tip rdcs to check you were on work not break.
I have heard of spot checks at Lidl and Aldi depots has they know you are tipping yourself with their fork lift`s, with the mode on break it would be classed as fraud.
FarnboroughBoy11:
Own Account Driver:
Conor:
gardun:
As far as I’m concerned, if I’m doing what I want and it’s not work or driving then I can call it a break. I often take a 15 sitting in the cab in a queue to tip - not driving, watching a DVD or playing with phone/laptop/otherSo what do you say to VOSA when they stop you and all your tacho shows is drive or break?
Say you don’t get out the cab to tip or load.
Then they will say ok then but how do you do your daily checks??
They never have yet but if they do I’II tell them I freely disposed of my time before I started work looking over my own truck - surely VOSA can’t disapprove of any additional maintenance or inspection you wish to do in your own time. 
Bosses often lie to get what they want when it suits them
Very true!
nedflanders:
has anyone actually have vosa appear when they filling diesel closing doors etc etc and tacho on break or is that a myth that they just appear
I know a driver who was genuinely giben a lot of grief by vosa for fuelling on break.
gardun:
nedflanders:
has anyone actually have vosa appear when they filling diesel closing doors etc etc and tacho on break or is that a myth that they just appearI know a driver who was genuinely giben a lot of grief by vosa for fuelling on break.
Never mind VOSA, if he’d continued with his break after fuelling in front of me he’d have been getting grief from me.